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Topic: Twilight Blues" Tab posted. Dick McIntire F#9
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Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 26 December 2005 12:14 PM
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Hey guys, I just posted "Twilight Blues" in the Tab section of the forum. It's note for note Dick McIntire beginning to end, from Bruce Clarks wonderful QumQuat records release the "Royal Hawaiian Hotel" CD of Dick McIntire and his band. http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum8/HTML/002600.html Rick posted the audio down below with Bruce Clarks blessing (thanks Rick). You need to listen to the recording to get the phrasing and gliss's (really swinging). F#9 is low to high = F#, A#, E, G#, C#, E . It's The same as C#m7 that Sol Hoppii used alot on electric, it's just the two lowest notes on C#m7 are E, B instead of F#, A#. Some of the voicings can be made fatter on some of the 2 note groups (3rd and 4th box's of tab on the first page), it's up to you. I myself put everything in 3 note groupings now instead of 2 on the 3rd and 4th box of tab, first page (I'll fix it later). I need to get the girls I jam with to scan and repost the picture of the tab, lol. Enjoy! [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 27 December 2005 at 12:36 PM.] |
Don Kona Woods Member From: Vancouver, Washington, USA
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posted 26 December 2005 08:46 PM
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Jesse,Thanks for the post and your Tab. Happy New Year.  Aloha, Don |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 26 December 2005 09:08 PM
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Thanks for the post, Jesse! I'm looking forward to taking a crack at this. Since I've never seen any tab in F#9, it will be a nice chance to see the benefits of this tuning. |
Jeff Strouse Member From: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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posted 27 December 2005 02:09 AM
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Thanks, Jesse! This is cool! It's even cooler that you jam with girls!  |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 27 December 2005 07:59 AM
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Here's a quick chord progression for twilight blues. It's in 8 measure progressions, 4/4 time = A,A,B,A (by Sol Hoppii): |F |C#aug |F F#|G7 |C7 |C7 |F |C7 Caug| |F |C#aug |F F#|G |C7 |C7 |F |F Gm,Ab| |A7 |A7 |D7 |D7 |G7 |G7 |C7 |C7 | |F |C#aug |F F#|G |C7 |C7 |F |C7 |(1) Repeat: // (second time through)(2)|F |F | end... *This is the stuff Jerry Bryd cut his teeth on and I can see alot of things JB ended up doing coming from the playing of Dick McIntire. JB's "Steelin the Blues" has some trick bar tech that I can see in "Twilight Blues". [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 01 January 2006 at 09:29 AM.]
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Rick Aiello Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 27 December 2005 09:58 AM
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Jesse ... got your email ... here it is  Twilight Blues Courtesy of Cumquat Records ------------------ Aiello's Cast Steel Guitars My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 27 December 2005 10:06 AM
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Thanks Rick... |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 28 December 2005 08:34 AM
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Jesse,Is it necessary to be in F#9 for this song, as opposed to C#m? Also, I'm ordering Bruce Clarke's "Play Along with the Hawaiian Hotshots" instructional CD. Does anyone know of any additional instructional material in this style, with C#m7/E6, F#9, and E7 tunings? By the way, thanks for posting the recording of the song, Rick - listening to the song before attempting to play it sure helps! |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 28 December 2005 09:10 AM
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John, you can play it in C#m7 no problem. I keep changing it alittle here and there myself to fatten up the voicings according to my ear. I like to play right along with the recording and make my steel disappear when it's right on with DM. I see only a handful of notes that you won't get if your not using F#9, concernig three note chords verses two note. It's in the last part of the song. Have you got that hard kinda dimminshed show off bouncing three note licks down yet, they are kinda hard but sound great. Your hand has got to bounce back and forth pretty fast to get it right. I like this song because it has alot of tricky bar stuff going on, sliding up and down from the high string to the lower strings to turn notes off that you just played . Also, picking up the bar and muting with your bar hand is needed to pull this song off right, not to mention all the stacatto "mute on, mute off" stuff that is happening. I tabbed out the uke and walking bass too and will add it later in the tab section. I can do Sol Hoppii stuff in F#9 and it sounds close to the same.
[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 28 December 2005 at 11:28 AM.] |
Craig Prior Member From: National City, California, USA
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posted 28 December 2005 09:17 AM
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It seems to me that if you have a Dobro handy tuned in hi-G, you're not all that far from F#9: Dobro F#9G down to F# B down to A# D up to E G up to G# B up to C# D up to E
Nothing has to be adjusted greater than a whole step and the overall string tension is slightly harder than hi-G. Standard acoustic guitar strings would suit this tuning nicely. Mis dos centavos. Craig. P.S. Thanks, Jesse and Rick. This is a great post. 
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Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 28 December 2005 09:22 AM
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Craig, thats cool. I never saw that before, your right on. Sol Hoppii musta got his tuning from high G, and Dick McIntire musta got his F#9 from Sol Hoppii's C#m7? |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 28 December 2005 10:24 AM
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quote: Have you got that hard kinda dimminshed show off bouncing three note licks down yet, they are kinda hard but sound great.
I'll be lucky to get that down in half-time by next Christmas. The chord progressions are also a great help, so I'll be able to record my own backing tracks. |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 28 December 2005 10:27 PM
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If ya'll look up F#9 in the search engin here on the forum, you'll find one name repeatedly comes up. That's right! good ol' George Keoki Lake.  I thought George would have said something by now about this song ( hey dude, thats the way I play's it!) LOL... Come on George, your the only guy I know that plays in this here tuning alot, how about some words of wisdom or something?  |
Bill Creller Member From: Saginaw, Michigan, USA
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posted 30 December 2005 05:50 AM
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I haven't tried the F#9th tuning yet, but if it's similar to C#m it should be interesting. Thats a great tune by Dick, and I personally like the single string work, which many old Hawaiians used. I have never tried to use tab. Maybe I should try it. Thanks for your efforts Jesse. |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 30 December 2005 09:35 AM
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Thanks for the kind words you guys. F#9 and also C#m7 are pretty easy tunings to get down. It's like you have to not think so complicated like you can do with C6 for example. It's just a handful of things really and how they get phrased. Once you get one Dick McIntire song down in these tunings, it all starts to make sense. I think F#9 and C#m7 tunings have a wonderfully old school Hawaiian vibe and sound to them and are worth getting to know well. I know Sponge Bob digs it... [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 30 December 2005 at 09:47 AM.] |
Stephan Miller Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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posted 30 December 2005 10:12 AM
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Jesse, thanks for working up the tab and posting it-- and Rick, thanks for the tune. I love the other versions I've heard also, but this one rocks!--Steve |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 30 December 2005 10:13 AM
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The three string slant:12 11 10 followed by the straight 10th fret bar is a wonderful sound (the Beatles feature a similar move in the song "Because"). I think the octave lines are easy to attempt, difficult to get right - they really emphasize the importance of keeping the bar parallel to the frets. The single string work really helps to capture the "Hawaiian-ness" of the song, and really separates it from the more modern "across the strings" technique. |
Scott Thomas Member From: Oregon, USA
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posted 30 December 2005 09:32 PM
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Great stuff Jesse, Thanks for all the hard work and for passing it on!It may just be my ears or my slow downer program altering the pitch, but in the third line down, just after those first couple 3 stirng forward slants---that next little part made up of the three note chords before it ascends to the slant at the 12th fret should all be moved up one fret? Anyway, I'm greedy for this stuff. You are obviously a man after my own heart. More! More! |
Terry Farmer Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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posted 30 December 2005 09:41 PM
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If SpongeBob digs it, it's OK with me!! I'm currently reading "Absorbing SpongeBob",ten ways to squeeze more happiness out of life. It was a Christmas present. Pretty good phsycobabble. |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 30 December 2005 10:06 PM
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Scott, good ear! Yeh, your right. That's what I was looking for. Anybody hear anything else that might need fixing? I gotta wait for my girl friend to show up to reload the corrected tab. This is just how we can build a library of cool standards for the non pedal tab section that are pretty right on. Thanks for your help Scott.  |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 30 December 2005 10:47 PM
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Here is the corrected tab that Scott pointed out. This replaces the 3rd Box of Tab on the first page: ---7--7--------5-4-3---12--10-8---------4-5---------------- ---6--6---3--5-5-4-3---11--10-8-10-9-8--4-5-5--0-3-3-2-1--- ---5--5---3--5-5-4-3---10--10-8-10-9-8--4-5-5--0-3-3-2-1--- ----------3--5------------------10-9-8------5--0-3-3-2-1--- ----------------------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------
This Box of Tab replaces the 4th Box of Tab on the first page by replacing all the 2 note voicings with 3 note voicings, which I like better. --10-8-10-8--6-5-4--3------1---------------------------- --9--8-9--8--6-5-4--3-3-1----1-0--4-3---3-4------4------ --8--8-8--8--6-5-4--3-3-1----1-1------4-----4-3----2---- ----------------------3-1----1-1------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------
4--5--1---------------- 4--5--1--1--3--3--2--1- 4--5--1--1--3--3--2--1- ---------1--3--3--2--1- ----------------------- ----------------------- Jesse, have you considered the above for the last phrase on page 1 box 3? * The above correction by Scott should also replace the end of "box 12, page #2", you'll see what I mean (Jesse Pearson).
This below sounds better to me for the beginning phrase of box 4 that follows: 10--8--10--8--6----------------- 9---8--9---8--6--8--7--6--3--1-- 8---8--8---8--6--8--7--6--3--1-- -----------------8--7--6--3--1-- -------------------------------- --------------------------------
I think Scott has nailed this song with all his corrections and I've changed my tab to reflect this. Thanks Scott I'll be re-doing this entire song in Power Tab when all the corrections have been made. Thanks Craig for the info! [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 01 January 2006 at 11:50 AM.]
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Don Kona Woods Member From: Vancouver, Washington, USA
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posted 30 December 2005 11:25 PM
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This is great job of collaboration guys.Most of this old time Hawaiian stuff is not in old time Hawaiian style tab. It would really be great if some of SGF members with good ears to hear the notes and chords would collaborate with some good old Hawaiian Tabs. I am already making progress on playing the "Twilight Blues" Tab by Jesse, and enjoying it immensely. I believe the more we play this old stuff, the better we pick up the Hawaiian "sound". Aloha,  Don |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 01 January 2006 07:52 AM
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Question, Jesse - how do you play a "GmAb" chord?Thanks, John |
Craig Prior Member From: National City, California, USA
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posted 01 January 2006 09:21 AM
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"...Most of this old time Hawaiian stuff is not in old time Hawaiian style tab. It would really be great if some of SGF members with good ears to hear the notes and chords would collaborate with some good old Hawaiian Tabs. ..."Agreed. I just added the tab to Sweet Corn, Jerry Byrd's C6 "flagship." Hope you guys/gals find it useful. Craig. |
Jesse Pearson Member From: San Diego , CA
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posted 01 January 2006 09:27 AM
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Sorry about that, it's supposed to represent Two different chords on the 3rd and 4th beat of that measure, "Gm, Ab,. It leads into the A7 chord in the next measure. The measures that have more than one chord in them will play the last chord on the last beat of that measure to lead into the next measure. The chord progression I used comes from Sol Hoppii and seems to have some chords that work fine over the Dick McIntire version we're doing, but I don't hear some of them in Dicks version. Dicks version seems to have a simpler chord progression in the beginning (I don't hear Dick doing C#aug in the second measure, but it sounds cool when Sol does it). Please try figuring out the McIntire chord progression if you get a chance you guys and lets see what you come up with. Twenty ears are better than two, LOL! |
John Bushouse Member From:
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posted 01 January 2006 09:32 AM
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I'll give it a shot - I'm currently taking your tab and breaking it into measures and assigning the rhythmic notation I'm hearing, and also adding the chords. |
Don Kona Woods Member From: Vancouver, Washington, USA
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posted 01 January 2006 05:34 PM
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Thanks John for taking on that task.I got through Jesse's tab Ok without the breakdown of the measures, but working out the correct rythym and measures will be helpful for those not aquainted with "Twilight Blues". Thanks to all of you pitching in on the TABs. It is meaningful work which promotes some of the purposes of SGF. Aloha, Don |