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Topic: Check out this "British made" Rickenbacker!
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 21 May 2006 01:12 PM
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http://www.retrofret.com/products.asp?ProductID=2720&CartID=1476775212006 |
basilh Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 21 May 2006 04:23 PM
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It's NOT a steel guitar you know, it's one of the earliest solid body regular guitars . $3,000 !!! I'd part with mine for $2,000AND mine has the rarer amplified case !! See the rest of mine including the case/amp here http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/009001.html ------------------ quote: Steel players do it without fretting
[This message was edited by basilh on 21 May 2006 at 04:25 PM.] [This message was edited by basilh on 21 May 2006 at 04:27 PM.]
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 21 May 2006 09:41 PM
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Hi Baz. Yes, i knew that, but the seller says it was used as a lap steel. Besides, i thought it would be interesting to all the Ricky lovers here. |
basilh Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 22 May 2006 01:21 AM
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It IS a historic find Dan, just how a UK assembled Rick got back to it's roots could be quite a story.On a slightly different slant (Ugh), if the guitar HAS been used as a lap steel, it's MOST likely that the neck has suffered the usual fate of these guitars, and is now doing an impersonation of a 'Banana' !! It looks like this one HAS suffered a similar fate, judging by the lack of 'side on' pictures and the action at the end of the fingerboard in THIS picture. :- And this one confirms it.. A 'Gary Glitter' neck Any I've seen have warped and sometimes twisted necks, I presume that's because they were owned by 'Ordinary' guitarists, they tried lap tunings WITHOUT changing string gauges. ------------------ quote: Steel players do it without fretting
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 22 May 2006 04:41 PM
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Very interesting Baz. Have you seen many of these in the UK? Also, do you have any idea why that one has only a volume knob and no tone? |
basilh Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 22 May 2006 06:44 PM
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Dan, personally close-up I have seen five, and only one was without the amplifier in the case. I am assured that the model WITHOUT the amp is the more common. Mine is a 1939 one and the one at Retrofret is between 1936 and 1938.(This guitar also appears to have had the machine head knobs replaced.)There also were imported and re-badged model B Lapsteels. Funnily enough not as common as the 'Electro Spanish' (Common probably is not the right turn of phrase, as they were and are fairly scarce.) quote: 1936 Rickenbacker Electro Spanish Model BRickenbacker Solidbody Guitars Pre-War Models Electro Spanish Model B, available 1935 to 1943. 1935 specs: Black bakelite body, horseshoe pickup, 5 chrome plates on face, 1 octagonal knob on lower bass bout, detachable bakelite neck with molded frets, string thru body. 1938 specs: 2 round knobs with ridges, one black and one white. 1940 specs: 5 plates on face now white. Discontinued 1943.
Having now acquired a Fender PS-210 I am disposing of most of my guitar collection, and concentrating on just Fenders. The Gretsch's The Hofner President, Gibson Multiharp, Gibsons EH-185, 150 and Kalamazoo, and some of my Takamine's See http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum9/HTML/002931.html
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George Rout Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 28 May 2006 08:45 PM
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Bazz, or anybody, is there some connection between Selmer and Rickenbacker becasue a friend of mine in Nova Scotia has a pre-war Selmer in an "amplified case" but it looks like a Ricki? I don't have pictures of it, but I'm sure I can get some in due course. Geo |
Rick Batey Member From: England
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posted 29 May 2006 05:47 AM
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George, there definitely was a connection at one time, though past No Peddlers threads imply that Rickenbacker don't care to confirm it. I recently saw a post-war sheet-steel Model NS in white with a Selmer badge... the horseshoes and pickup also looked Rick-made to me, though I don't have enough knowledge to know for sure. Cute guitar but it showed a strong 'note dying at the octave harmonic' effect that I’ve also noticed on a late-model Silver Hawaiian. I wonder if they all do that... |
BobbeSeymour Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 29 May 2006 02:04 PM
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Dan Sawyer, just want to say I love your work, Bobbe
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Russ Tkac Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 29 May 2006 03:09 PM
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Me too!  |
George Rout Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 31 May 2006 06:45 AM
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Thanks Rick. And Basil, please take note.....I was just talking with my buddy in N.S. and his guitar is a brown wood finished (just like a wooden Dobro finish) made by Selmer as Serial No. 439, and it's in a case (pictures to come)with the built-in amplifier which sounds just like Basil's picture above in this thread. The amplifier is a Truvoice Sound Equipment S/N 7930 by Henri Selmer & Co. Ltd., 14-116 Charing Cross Rd., London W.C.2. The guitar has Ricky style horsehoe magnets, and has no jack, just the wire comeing out of the guitar per Basil's pic above. I have looked at internet data on Truevoice, but haven't seen any pictures of this. Just wondering if anybody can make any additional comments. I'm hoping to have some pics in a few weeks. An edited additional comment, I should say that my buddy's is a lap steel with a bakelite nut, it's not a Spanish style soldid body. George[This message was edited by George Rout on 31 May 2006 at 06:47 AM.] |
basilh Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 31 May 2006 12:08 PM
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George, I don't know much about the Selmer Badged guitars, BUT, This link requires exploring fully.. http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/gallery/gallery3/stor.html |
George Rout Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 31 May 2006 08:54 PM
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Thanks Bas, I had explored that in my first research. When I saw your Ricky non-pedal-non-lap(!!!!) with the case amplifier, it made me think that maybe you had some clues. Thanks buddy. I appreciate it. Geo |
Tighe Falato Member From: South Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
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posted 01 June 2006 05:52 AM
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George.....check out this recent completed eBay auction. Auction on eBay.
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Dan Sawyer Member From: Studio City, California, USA
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posted 02 June 2006 12:32 AM
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Bobbe and Russ, thanks so much guys. That means a lot to me. Bobbe, I really enjoy your playing, too. |
George Rout Member From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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posted 03 June 2006 01:27 PM
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Thanks a lot Tighe. I've forwarded that to a buddy in N.S. who will show it the friend who owns the Selmer. Thanks again. Geo |