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Dan Sawyer
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From: Studio City, California, USA

posted 21 May 2006 01:12 PM     profile     edit
http://www.retrofret.com/products.asp?ProductID=2720&CartID=1476775212006
basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 21 May 2006 04:23 PM     profile   send email     edit
It's NOT a steel guitar you know, it's one of the earliest solid body regular guitars .
$3,000 !!!
I'd part with mine for $2,000

AND mine has the rarer amplified case !!

See the rest of mine including the case/amp here http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/009001.html
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Steel players do it without fretting


[This message was edited by basilh on 21 May 2006 at 04:25 PM.]

[This message was edited by basilh on 21 May 2006 at 04:27 PM.]

Dan Sawyer
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From: Studio City, California, USA

posted 21 May 2006 09:41 PM     profile     edit
Hi Baz. Yes, i knew that, but the seller says it was used as a lap steel. Besides, i thought it would be interesting to all the Ricky lovers here.
basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 22 May 2006 01:21 AM     profile   send email     edit
It IS a historic find Dan, just how a UK assembled Rick got back to it's roots could be quite a story.

On a slightly different slant (Ugh), if the guitar HAS been used as a lap steel, it's MOST likely that the neck has suffered the usual fate of these guitars, and is now doing an impersonation of a 'Banana' !!

It looks like this one HAS suffered a similar fate, judging by the lack of 'side on' pictures and the action at the end of the fingerboard in THIS picture. :-

And this one confirms it..

A 'Gary Glitter' neck

Any I've seen have warped and sometimes twisted necks, I presume that's because they were owned by 'Ordinary' guitarists, they tried lap tunings WITHOUT changing string gauges.

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Steel players do it without fretting


Dan Sawyer
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From: Studio City, California, USA

posted 22 May 2006 04:41 PM     profile     edit
Very interesting Baz. Have you seen many of these in the UK? Also, do you have any idea why that one has only a volume knob and no tone?
basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 22 May 2006 06:44 PM     profile   send email     edit
Dan, personally close-up I have seen five, and only one was without the amplifier in the case. I am assured that the model WITHOUT the amp is the more common.
Mine is a 1939 one and the one at Retrofret is between 1936 and 1938.(This guitar also appears to have had the machine head knobs replaced.)

There also were imported and re-badged model B Lapsteels. Funnily enough not as common as the 'Electro Spanish' (Common probably is not the right turn of phrase, as they were and are fairly scarce.)

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1936 Rickenbacker Electro Spanish Model B

Rickenbacker Solidbody Guitars

Pre-War Models
Electro Spanish Model B, available 1935 to 1943.
1935 specs:
Black bakelite body, horseshoe pickup, 5 chrome plates on face, 1 octagonal knob on lower bass bout, detachable bakelite neck with molded frets, string thru body.
1938 specs:
2 round knobs with ridges, one black and one white.
1940 specs:
5 plates on face now white.
Discontinued 1943.


Having now acquired a Fender PS-210 I am disposing of most of my guitar collection, and concentrating on just Fenders. The Gretsch's The Hofner President, Gibson Multiharp, Gibsons EH-185, 150 and Kalamazoo, and some of my Takamine's

See http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum9/HTML/002931.html

George Rout
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From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

posted 28 May 2006 08:45 PM     profile   send email     edit
Bazz, or anybody, is there some connection between Selmer and Rickenbacker becasue a friend of mine in Nova Scotia has a pre-war Selmer in an "amplified case" but it looks like a Ricki? I don't have pictures of it, but I'm sure I can get some in due course.
Geo
Rick Batey
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From: England

posted 29 May 2006 05:47 AM     profile   send email     edit
George, there definitely was a connection at one time, though past No Peddlers threads imply that Rickenbacker don't care to confirm it.

I recently saw a post-war sheet-steel Model NS in white with a Selmer badge... the horseshoes and pickup also looked Rick-made to me, though I don't have enough knowledge to know for sure. Cute guitar but it showed a strong 'note dying at the octave harmonic' effect that I’ve also noticed on a late-model Silver Hawaiian. I wonder if they all do that...

BobbeSeymour
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From: Hendersonville TN USA

posted 29 May 2006 02:04 PM     profile   send email     edit
Dan Sawyer, just want to say I love your work,


Bobbe

Russ Tkac
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From: Waterford, Michigan, USA

posted 29 May 2006 03:09 PM     profile   send email     edit
Me too!
George Rout
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From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

posted 31 May 2006 06:45 AM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks Rick. And Basil, please take note.....I was just talking with my buddy in N.S. and his guitar is a brown wood finished (just like a wooden Dobro finish) made by Selmer as Serial No. 439, and it's in a case (pictures to come)with the built-in amplifier which sounds just like Basil's picture above in this thread. The amplifier is a Truvoice Sound Equipment S/N 7930 by Henri Selmer & Co. Ltd., 14-116 Charing Cross Rd., London W.C.2. The guitar has Ricky style horsehoe magnets, and has no jack, just the wire comeing out of the guitar per Basil's pic above. I have looked at internet data on Truevoice, but haven't seen any pictures of this. Just wondering if anybody can make any additional comments. I'm hoping to have some pics in a few weeks. An edited additional comment, I should say that my buddy's is a lap steel with a bakelite nut, it's not a Spanish style soldid body. George

[This message was edited by George Rout on 31 May 2006 at 06:47 AM.]

basilh
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From: United Kingdom

posted 31 May 2006 12:08 PM     profile   send email     edit
George, I don't know much about the Selmer Badged guitars, BUT, This link requires exploring fully..
http://www.vintagehofner.co.uk/gallery/gallery3/stor.html

George Rout
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From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

posted 31 May 2006 08:54 PM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks Bas, I had explored that in my first research. When I saw your Ricky non-pedal-non-lap(!!!!) with the case amplifier, it made me think that maybe you had some clues. Thanks buddy. I appreciate it.
Geo
Tighe Falato
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From: South Plainfield, New Jersey, USA

posted 01 June 2006 05:52 AM     profile   send email     edit
George.....check out this recent completed eBay auction. Auction on eBay.

[This message was edited by Brad Bechtel on 01 June 2006 at 05:27 PM.]

Dan Sawyer
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From: Studio City, California, USA

posted 02 June 2006 12:32 AM     profile     edit
Bobbe and Russ, thanks so much guys. That means a lot to me. Bobbe, I really enjoy your playing, too.
George Rout
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From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

posted 03 June 2006 01:27 PM     profile   send email     edit
Thanks a lot Tighe. I've forwarded that to a buddy in N.S. who will show it the friend who owns the Selmer. Thanks again. Geo

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