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Topic: MSA Millenium -- a review...
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Willis Vanderberg
Member From: Bradenton, FL, USA
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posted 17 December 2002 08:43 PM
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When all the Emmons fans jump up and doubt any other guitar could sound like an Emmons,exactly what are they referring to ?
The only Emmons that sounds like an Emmons to me is the one Mr.Emmons is playing.I have ownen enough steels to sink a small boat.I currently have a LeGrande 111.Does it sound like an Emmons ? Not with me or anyone I knoe playing it.I also have a MCI which Mr Emmons made sound like a million dollars. But myself and a lot of other pickers have played it and I can only say it sounds good .My good friend plays a Mullen, and plays it quite well.Does it sound like Hughey ...no .But it sounds good.Last week I heard a push pull that squeeked and squawked and at times sounded like the loser in a cock fight.
Then there was a beautiful steel with so many effects on it it sounded like a pipe organ or something.If some of us could only play the melody...I get tired of folks trying to play way over their head.I worked with a guy who spent thity minutes running thru every fast lick he could thik of.When it came show time I didn't even know what song he was playing.It's in the hands and heart guys...Didn't mean to ramble on so long.
Bud |
Jeff Peterson
Member From: Nashville, TN USA
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posted 17 December 2002 08:46 PM
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..[This message was edited by Jeff Peterson on 18 December 2002 at 05:26 AM.] |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 17 December 2002 09:21 PM
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Jim Smith mentioned the MSA Weighed 56 lbs. Is that correct,? It has been published that a D10 weighed 28 Lbs.out of the case, and mentioned many times. Is that true or not? Does the case then Weigh 28 lbs? I have a MSA case for my "Universal" and it weighs 16 Lbs, and my single 12 with 8/5 weighs 39 lbs. I am just curious.....al  |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 17 December 2002 09:32 PM
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I said it was 56 pounds in the case, and was repeating what Donny Hinson said in his first post. quote:
Total carrying weight in the impressive Dell (flight-style) custom case is about 56 pounds.
As has been posted before, this MSA web page: http://www.msapedalsteels.com/html/features.html states "The all new MSA Millennium Carbon-Composite D10 weighing in around 32 pounds (depending on configuration)"[This message was edited by Jim Smith on 17 December 2002 at 09:42 PM.] |
Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 18 December 2002 06:52 AM
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Flight cases are quite heavy. I had one that weighed 35 lbs empty. Given how indestructible carbon fiber is, if I had a Millennium, I'd consider putting it in a Sierra Wheel-EZE case, which is MUCH lighter and still gives very good protection, then it'd be well under the weight limit. |
Rex Thomas
Member From: Thompson's Station, TN
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posted 18 December 2002 09:00 AM
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THAT'S a great idea, having both successfully & unsuccessfully dealt with airline - weight limits issue.[This message was edited by Rex Thomas on 18 December 2002 at 09:00 AM.] |
Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 18 December 2002 05:58 PM
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If I would try to board the plane with my `74 Classic MSA I think they would arrest me for attempting terrorist act.I`m thinking about buying a forklift so I can transport it from my living room to the car. |
Jim Eaton
Member From: Santa Susana, Ca
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posted 19 December 2002 11:30 AM
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I gave a guy a lesson once that had an MSA D-12. It took both of us to carry it out of my studio and lift it into his truck! Very stable guitar though!
JE:-)> |
Jim Smith
Member From: Plano, TX, USA
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posted 19 December 2002 11:38 AM
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Wimp!   I remember the days of carrying my D-12 MSA in one hand and a Session 500 in the other hand for balance.   Come to think of it, maybe that's why I'm having so much neck and shoulder problems now.  |
Harry Hess
Member From: Blue Bell, PA., USA
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posted 22 December 2002 10:51 PM
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I sat and played next to Donny for the last hour of the Sat Maryland jam. His playing and his guitar sounded great. He was kind enough to let me try the new Millenium out afterward. Seeing as all my steels are 2"s higher than normal, I could not fit my legs under it. Also, his pedals and knee levers are totally opposite of mine. I had to put the volume pedal to an acceptable level and use the knee levers with the tips of my knees. In spite of all these difficulties, I could tell that the guitar played very comfortably and sounded great. I would have preferred a little warmer tone, but did not want to mess with Donny's amp tone controls. Even just using my knee tips to work the knee levers, I could tell that their contoured shape was really comfortable. The tone was really smooth, the highs were great. I made a few bloopers because of the backward pedal and knee lever set up, etc., but all in all, I thought it was a good guitar. Thanks Donny for letting me try it out. I was supprised when he had it upside down in the case to break it down. I grabbed the cabinet and was amazed that it was only about a 1/4 of an inch thick, 3/8's tops. If I have a good year in 2003, I could see getting one. Wonder what the 2" height difference would cost me? Are they even prepared to accomodate that? Regards,
HH |
PAUL WARNIK
Member From: OAK LAWN,IL,USA
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posted 23 December 2002 06:09 AM
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Harry-I too need a guitar 2" over standard-the Millenium guitar that I was borrowed for me to evaluate was also 2" over and I was able to play it quite comfortably-Reece says there is no additional charge for a taller set up from the factory |
Harry Hess
Member From: Blue Bell, PA., USA
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posted 23 December 2002 06:43 PM
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Paul,That's good to know. Thanks. Regards,
HH |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 24 December 2002 11:58 AM
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quote:
I grabbed the cabinet and was amazed that it was only about a 1/4 of an inch thick, 3/8's tops.
Actually Harry, the front and rear aprons are much less than that! I measured them at about .170", a little less than 3/16". Other than the endplates and nameplate, though, nothing is affixed to them. All the crossrods are mounted via heavy bronze bushings to an aluminum carriage that is screwed to the underside of the body (which is far more substantial). |
Harry Hess
Member From: Blue Bell, PA., USA
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posted 29 December 2002 07:37 PM
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Donny,Yeah, I figured that it had to be something like that. Regards,
HH |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 30 December 2002 10:10 AM
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How thick is the top of the body? |
Earnest Bovine
Member From: Los Angeles CA USA
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posted 30 December 2002 10:40 AM
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How thick is the top of the body?
Mine is about 3 inches thicker than my pants. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 31 December 2002 10:52 AM
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Difficult to be precise on the thickness of the body, Bobby, due to the thick flannel-like "covering" on the bottom of the body. I'd say it's about 1 1/8" on the C6th side, and about 1 3/8" on the E9th side (the bottom side is not "stepped", as it is on some guitars). |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 31 December 2002 10:56 AM
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Are you including the neck in that measurement, Donny? (Earnest? ) |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 31 December 2002 06:57 PM
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No, Bobby, the necks are machined aluminum billets, and are not included in my measurements. (Only a guitar like the old Fenders would have necks that are actually a part of the body.) |
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