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Topic: Chess peices and card suits on fingerboards
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Eugene Cole
Member From: Washington Grove, MD, USA
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posted 05 February 2003 01:54 PM
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My thanks to all of you that provided on-topic responses. To the rest of you... staying on topic was just just not in the CARDS.
The fret markers on Merle Travis' guitar neck, the one Paul Bigsby made for Merle's Martin D28 were hearts, diamonds, et cetera.
My List:
ZB Custom: uses Greco-Roman Helmets and Shields on fretboards.
Tom Morrell and Danny Shields selected chess pieces for fret markers (pre-MSA).
Fessenden uses longhorn markers on fretboards.
Kline guitars the fretboard has the 4 basic math symbols; add, subtract, multiply and divide.
Emmons guitars depict Atoms of the fret board.
Pedalmaster uses variations on diamonds.
Fulawka uses dots and triangles.
Mullen uses something sort of like a fleur del lis.
Sierra wenk with hexagons.
Harmos guitars display traingles, squares, and cirles (and their guitars look really wild).
So who is this Buudy Emmons from: Hermitage TN. that claims "I'm responsible for the Sho~Bud fret board..."? Does he play Steel?
To Fred Jack: I too tried it standing in a hammock but I could not access the pedals and knee levers. ------------------
Regards
-- Eugene at FJ45.com
[This message was edited by Eugene Cole on 19 November 2004 at 10:44 AM.]
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Kevin Mincke
Member From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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posted 05 February 2003 08:25 PM
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Wow! After all that is it still ok if I play my SuperPro in church without the card symbols covered up? Oh ya.......it's Baptist!
"And on an instrument of ten strings I will praise him" Psalms 144 |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 06 February 2003 07:20 AM
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Kevin:
Yes you can play it in your Baptist Church. Only you have to keep your eyes closed so you don't look at them. That's what I did before I covered them up! Now I play an Emmons and don't have a problem.
Uff-Da!
p.s. Also look up Psalms 33:2 and Psalms 92:3
In the King James as the translations vary.[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 06 February 2003 at 07:23 AM.] |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 06 February 2003 07:37 AM
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Okay heres the answer. The Jews don't recognize Jesus Christ as the son of God. The Protestants don't recognize the Pope as the head of the Christian church. The Catholics don't recognize the Church of England, and the Baptists don't recognize each other when they are playing a steel guitar show using their Sho-Buds with card suit fret boards. |
Rex Thomas
Member From: Thompson's Station, TN
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posted 06 February 2003 08:22 AM
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Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 06 February 2003 08:31 AM
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Kevin... LOL! Nice summary of the current state of theology in the West.Solution: A steel guitar that has an image of Osama Bin Laden on the third fret, Yassir Arafat on the fifth fret, Saddam Hussein on the seventh fret, Ayatollah Khomeini on the ninth fret, and all four on the twelfth. Some forumites might like this group: Karl Marx on the third fret, Stalin on the fifth, Mao Tse-Tung on the seventh, Lenin on the ninth, etc. How about Hitler on the first fret, Goebbels on the third, Hermann Goering on fifth, and Dr. Josef Mengele on the ninth, and a panorama of Auschwitz on the 12th? Certainly these are less offensive than those sinful CARD SYMBOLS! Hey, come on... it's only a suggestion!!  [This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 06 February 2003 at 08:39 AM.] |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 06 February 2003 11:57 AM
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Kevin, I love it!
Erv |
Eugene Cole
Member From: Washington Grove, MD, USA
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posted 06 February 2003 02:12 PM
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Herb your suggestions for famous faces has some merit.  I played a 6 string about 25 years ago from a company called Alembic. The guitar had a fairly plain finger board; a few dots as I recall. However this guitar had lighted position markers on the side of the neck. This was a pretty cool feature given what else was in the marketplace at the time. Truth be told the little lights were the least significant feature on this guitar: it was the awesome electronics (I was awed) that set this guitar apart. But I digress. 8^) Regardless of what is printed on the fretboard it is still the other things that really make a difference when we are playing. I have often thought that back-lighted fret markers that were dim-able would be a nifty feature (so long as they did not generate electrical noise). At some point in the late 1980's I cut thin strips of "glow in the dark" tape and placed them over the frets on my Dobro. They were easier to see than the (unpolished corroded) frets. It was fun to crank up the Black Light and play "in the dark." They peeled off after a few months but they were a good (at the time) solution.
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Regards
-- Eugene@FJ45.com
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Joe Miraglia
Member From: Panama, New York USA
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posted 06 February 2003 03:38 PM
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I would like to see the steel guitar to have dunce caps on the fret board--this would reflect my playing ability and intelligence. I would not be offended. Joe |
Kevin Mincke
Member From: Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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posted 06 February 2003 06:23 PM
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Ohhhh......Kevin is right on track  |
ebb
Member From: nj
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posted 06 February 2003 06:33 PM
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kline had the best
+ - x /[This message was edited by ebb on 06 February 2003 at 06:34 PM.] |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 06 February 2003 06:40 PM
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We have churches in this area that would probably take offense at those "evil" symbols of the devil's favorite "parlor sport"...which is gambling!!!So...when ya'll come 'round heah, I'd 'vise ya's...not to try and play dat old Sho~Bud at the local "Our Lady Of Bingo" Church.  |
Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 07 February 2003 12:04 AM
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I went to the accordion players' church for awhile... Our Lady of Spain. ------------------
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Fred Shannon
Member From: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas
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posted 19 November 2004 06:47 AM
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While doing a search on Joaquin Murphey's tuning I came across this thread. It has to be one of the most informative I've read on fret board styles. Some comedy in here too. Thought it might be worthwile bringing back up, and the Great One knows I made my living playing ShoBud fret markers for a long time. You don't like it, then it'll again fall back into agony (archives). fred ------------------
The spirit be with you!
If it aint got a steel, it aint real
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Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 07:48 AM
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Fred,
Sure glad you dragged this old chestnut back up again. I have to report that on my new Williams guitars I put on Jerry Fessenden fret boads. I really like those longhorn symbols. I was going to use Sho~Bud fretboards (yeah, sure) but I think they have a 24" scale and Jerry's guitars and Bill Rudolph's guitars use a 24 1/4" scale.
Not that it would make a lot of difference, though. If I can come within a quarter of an inch of being on fret, that's doing pretty good for a left-handed Norwegian! 
Uff-Da!
Erv |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 19 November 2004 07:51 AM
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By the way. Re: ZB Roman Helmets. This is a bit of interesting trivia. Zane Beck took the symbol from the Trojan condom package as a joke! True story. Look at them. |
Nicholas Dedring
Member From: Brooklyn, New York, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 07:51 AM
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Well, you can always switch them if they are offensive.I don't see, though, how having a card symbol on something means a thing. I'm not a gambler simply because I have hearts, clubs etc. on a guitar... they are kind of two COMPLETELY separate things. If you do feel you can't stand the things, well, switch them, but hang onto the originals... most of us sinners would want them put back on if we bought a Sho-Bud from you |
Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 19 November 2004 08:25 AM
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Gee, I didn't remember my attempts at "humor," but there they were. But since the card symbols still might offend, IMHO, the somewhat hypersensitive amongst us, how about these symbols? Third fret: Colt SAA Peacemaker
Fifth fret: Smith and Wesson Model 19
Seventh fret: Glock .40 cal auto
Ninth fret: Ruger Super Blackhawk
12th fret: AK-47 Assault rifle (Spare the flames: I'm a gun owner and am totally okay with it. I also own a Sho-Bud as well as several decks of cards. ) Too tame? Perhaps these:
Third fret: Charles Manson
Fifth fret: Ted Bundy
Seventh fret: John Wayne Gacy
Ninth fret: Mark David Chapman
12th fret: the four Manson family girls The old card symbols don't seem so bad, do they? For the country rock guys:
Third fret: Jerry Garcia
Fifth fret: Buddy Cage
Seventh fret: Rusty Young
Ninth fret: Sneaky Pete
12th fret: Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. Seriously, though: the computer, and advanced printers and materials, has enabled us to easily come up with any type of custom fretboard we'd like. I forsee a world with any number of different fretboards for any number of guitars, perhaps even changeable from gig to gig.
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Bill Miller
Member From: Gaspé, Québec, Canada
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posted 19 November 2004 09:10 AM
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Joey Ace said : "If you're against atomic weapons can you still play an Emmons? " Good one Joey! |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 09:44 AM
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If you are a super liberal and a tree hugger, how about tree symbols on the fretboard. But then again, you wouldn't be playing a wood guitar, would you?? |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 09:53 AM
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quote:
For the country rock guys:
Third fret: Jerry Garcia
Fifth fret: Buddy Cage
Seventh fret: Rusty Young
Ninth fret: Sneaky Pete
12th fret: Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young.
I want one! I want one! |
Kevin Hatton
Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 19 November 2004 10:23 AM
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He said wood, ha,ha,ha. |
Jim Lutz
Member From: Austin, Texas
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posted 19 November 2004 10:51 AM
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If you are a super liberal and a tree hugger, how about tree symbols on the fretboard. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liberal |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 10:51 AM
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I'm a chicken eatting Baptist!should have colored chickens on fret markers,no one complain about that! farris |
James Cann
Member From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston)
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posted 19 November 2004 10:56 AM
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"i respect those that find the Card symbols to be profane."
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Keep then the sacred when that
you must;
The profane will abide with the likes
of us! |
James Cann
Member From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston)
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posted 19 November 2004 11:00 AM
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Sorry. Please delete the previous in favor of my more thoughtful second thoughts.No offense intended. Thanks |
Randy Reeves
Member From: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 11:06 AM
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are there not more important issues in this world to fret over?
c'mon. markers?
worry more about the bigger things, please. |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 11:32 AM
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yes Randy,you might try Cors Problems sec. |
Randy Reeves
Member From: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 11:51 AM
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Cor's problem is important.
fret marker issues seem silly.
one is not a Christian issue and for the other it seems to me that Jesus was more inclusive , open, and tolerant,
but what do I know; I follow a different path.
similar direction and same goals.
peace and love |
Rick Schmidt
Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA
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posted 19 November 2004 12:40 PM
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I guess the next step will be little cross markers? |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 12:46 PM
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well it seems as we get older,we tend to get kindda silly again!!!!gotta enjoy to its fullest, farris |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 12:49 PM
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I'd like to have hula girls,that way the Deacons would all gather round!!seriously if you can't stand the card sym.send the guitars to me,i can use them........farris |
Joey Aguilera
Member From: Whittier, California, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 12:51 PM
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Leila Tuttle
Member From: Wheat Ridge, Colorado, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 01:38 PM
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Here's my 2 cents. Don'cha know that card symbols (and dice too) got their bad reputation because of all those ole cowboys in crowded smoke-filled drunken saloons in the TV movies we used to watch years and years and years ago? Everybody'd be sitting around tables playing cards and then all of a sudden they'd all stand up and shoot each other. The Lesson: Cards aren't bad, COWBOYS ARE! By the way, having to answer as to why I played cards on planet earth will be the least of my worries when I meet God face-to-face. Believe me. Leila
Card-playing Christian |
Randy Reeves
Member From: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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posted 19 November 2004 02:03 PM
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amen |
Bill Ford
Member From: Graniteville SC Aiken
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posted 19 November 2004 03:11 PM
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What Leila said.....BF |
Duncan Hodge
Member From: DeLand, FL USA
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posted 19 November 2004 04:09 PM
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I like any symbol that sits on the fretboard of a ZB, or Spreedy West Marlen. |
richard burton
Member From: Britain
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posted 20 November 2004 12:45 AM
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Surely Jerry Garcia would be slightly off the third fret?? |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 20 November 2004 06:40 AM
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Thought about this all night,i've played in churchs since 1972,started with a sho-bud professional,never have i heard one person complain,they always said we like the sound of that thing.just play Amazing Grace,OR What a Friend WE Have in JESUS.all that other stuff will go away. farris |
Willis Vanderberg
Member From: Bradenton, FL, USA
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posted 20 November 2004 09:35 AM
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Hey Farris: I am with you. I been pickin out your way at the " Sandy Baptist Church " It's over on Clay Gulley Rd. They sure do love the pedal steel over there. Old Bud |
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