Eb (D)lever, fret 6, same strings

pedals BC, fret 8, strings 3,4,5,6

Fresh from the Mel Bay / Scotty Chord chart
Extrapolate from these. You can get the chart from Scotty music too. Very useful.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 17 April 2003 at 09:26 AM.]

Learn what is meant my a "Relative Minor", such as "Am is the relative minor in the key of C". It's the 6th degree of the major scale. Look up some music theory if necessary.

Then, whenever you are at a major chord, no pedals, such as F - first fret, the relative minor is the same fret with the A Pedal down. Example: F Major is at fret 1, no pedals. Press the A pedal and you have Dm.

If you are playing a major chord with the AB pedals down, the relative minor is two frets lower with the E's lowered. Example: F Major at fret 8, AB down, then Dm is at fret 6 with the Es lowered.

Next, we'll talk about the "2 minor". In the key of C the "2 minor" is Dm. It's easily found by being at the "No Pedals" position for the "one chord" and pressing BC pedals. Example: C Major is at fret 8, no pedals. Press BC and you have Dm.

I made these examples to match David's examples. Compare the two posts.

Based on this assumption, I would offer the following suggestions:

You would have any given fret's minor chord (instead of that fret's major chord) as you probably already know.

Now how to use them? Ok, Two frets up from any fret you have the relative minor chord to the 4 chord. IE, at fret 10 you would have Dmin which is relative to the F chord, which is the 4 chord in the key of C.

If you move two more frets up to fret 12, you would have the relative minor (Eminor) to the V chord (G).

Now if you want the relative minor to the I (C) chord, you would find this at fret 5. Or 3 frets down from the I chord.

To summarize:

1. Three frets down from the I chord is the I chord relative minor.

2. Two frets up from the I chord is the 4 chord relative minor.

3. 4 frets up from the I chord is the 5 chord relative minor.

If you did not already know it, there are 3 relative minor chords to any major Key. IE, key of C you have:

1. C = Amin

2. F = Dmin

3. G = Emin

The great thing about this minor chord inversion is it completes the final inversion of any major or minor chord on any 3 consecutive strings (3, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10).

Ever since LG gave us the F lever, we have had the three inversions of a major chord. And we had two of the minor inversions. But we never had the 3rd inversion ,UNLESS one used the B and C pedals. Which of course required one to change their foot position.

With the "subject" minor inversion, we now can obtain any major or any minor inversion using just the A and/or B pedals and various combinations of the E and F knee levers if needs be.

I personally use it all the time. I would not want to play a PSG without lowering at least the 6th string to a G (I do it by splitting). In the future I will be lowering string 3 to a G as well, which will then totally complete what I feel music calls for with respect to major and minor chords.

Hope this helps, and may Jesus bless you in your quests,

carl

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 17 April 2003 at 10:29 AM.]

So from any open chord (E9th) I drop G#'s to G on Pedal 0 (to the left of the A pedal) to get the minor of that chord, and from the A+B position, I add LKV (B's to Bb's, split tuned) to get the minor of that chord.

I don't like the sound of the B+C minor inversion (maybe it's just the timbre of strings 4 and 5 being raised a whole tone, I don't know?) so I don't use it much for minors (plenty of other cool E9th stuff to be had with B+C).
I do like the sound of the A pedal minor chord position (same type of thing as above, A+F on the 3rd fret is E, release the F lever for E minor, or release the A pedal for E7th).

All these guys are very helpfull, with extra thanks to Bobby Lee for making it all possible.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 April 2003 at 03:16 PM.]

quote:

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"Where is the most common Eb /D# lever placement?"

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It will give your ear a good test for accuracy.

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SUAS U' PHIOB
Geo

 
F#----------------------------------------------
Eb---------1------------------------------------
G#----------------------------------------------
E --0---1L--------------------------------------
B --0A*-1--1--3A---4A*--5---5-------------------
G#--0B--1--1--3B---4----5L------7B--8---8-------
F#------------3-------------5R--------------10--
E -----------------4R---5---5---7R--8---8-------
D ------------------------------7---8L------10--
B --------------------------------------8A--10--
 
 
F#------------10--------------------------------
Eb---8LL------10L-------------13----------------
G#---8----8-------------------------------------
E ---8----8--------12----13L--------------------
B --------8A--10---12A*--13---13----------------
G#-----------------12B---13---13----------------
F#----------------------------------------------
E ----------------------------------------------
D ----------------------------------------------
B ----------------------------------------------
 
 
Note A* = halfpedal or split

And of course relate them to all the Amajor chords positions you know (the midlle note will be played a halfnote higher(1 fret up))

[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 19 April 2003 at 12:35 PM.]