There are spectrum analyzers and frequency counters out there that will give it precisely, but I am not aware of a currently available tuner that will.

I went on Peterson's website. Also, Precision Strobe tuner's website. And they did not mention it. Or if they did I did not see it. These are among the finest on the market I am told. And as far as I can see, both still only reference to A=440.

Are you just interested for curiosity sake, or do you want to tune your guitar using frequency rather than a reference method?

I also have the mathematics to determine pitch and frequency. Let me do some digging.

Is this what you are lookin' for?

Stuff that could make your head Explode

Check out this site -- it lists the frequency of each note in the Equal Tempered Scale.

Frequency Chart

[This message was edited by Roy Ayres on 07 May 2003 at 11:54 PM.]

I'm beginning to see the "cosmic light"

A tone generator will do what you want ... just set the frequency and tune beatless. For frequencies that low ... using octaves and 5th/12th fret harmonics might be helpful.

Here is a free one ... Tone Generator

Now I finally know the pitch of Uranus

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 08 May 2003 at 06:31 AM.]

I then ran it thru my Spectrum Analyzer ... worked like a charm.

Eric has the same link as I do.
http://www.izzy.net/~jc/PSTInfo/Temper.html

While you are there you will other useful links. I found it useful.

Y'oughta try getting the "real scoop" about cam/compression/carburetion formulae in a Harley Shop.

I certainly don't wish you to think I was poking any fun with my post.

I actually have quite a collection of old Ravi Shankar stuff I drug out recently.

I can't say I'm on the beam with the exacitude of it all but I do know that the 64 note scale is a hard thing to get used to. I hadn't thought about it for a long time.

I listened to several selections, and I have to admit that they sound "out of tune". Not just a few notes, but often the whole damn song or just one whole riff. Now Ravi, being a Master, many times over, and in a category of Segovia, probably has NEVER put down a lick, note, or riff, that I have ever heard that was not played with exacitude few of us OR our dogs have ever heard. Yet, to me, a battle worn "who's really out of tune" guy, it sounded out of tune.

Though this isn't the week for me to do it, I'd like to read the whys, and wheres of the subtleties of East Indian Music, and why, to OUR ears it does sound out of tune.

"We" can understand minors, diminished, augmented, and others as "the public" and then as we become "schooled" 9-5s 9ths, sus4 etc.
Why not a "half minor". God knows blues players play enough of them. On purpose? I'd bet on it at a certain point. How about half suspended" maybe 1/4 augmented. I've got to have played some of those a thousand times when I touched the pedal slightly wrong. In an augmented, nobody would notice would they? Nobody usually does where I play..

Then there's vibrato, sometimes only slight and slow. and VERY deliberate. We're talking 20 cents in some cases.

As close as I come to it is putting four descending triplets over three frets like in The Fireman, or do a diminished slant over three unequdistant strings. I've been kown to do that with brumley style licks up or down, and I'd like to hear a recording of it, because nobody EVER notices. They're just listening to the "movement".

Last couple evenings I ran Franklin's licks down to damn near zero tempo on Hot Wired, and was really surprised to find a few licks bending things "to the limit", and most sounding pretty exact. As I listened to it at various speeds, I got more of a feeling that the dissonances though small probably were intentional, as they were sure as hell "leading", and not "detracting".

Maybe "we" use a scale that is actually a lot more complex than "twelve half steps".

Maybe not.

Oh Mr Hankey....Get your duct tape ready.. and a few thousand more vertical slots..

(forgive me if I find the time..)

EJL

Let us know what you find.

[This message was edited by Eric West on 08 May 2003 at 07:57 PM.]

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if one does this, a multitude of ever changing numbers will be the result. according to him, when we think of a string being at a specific frequency, it is really a certain frequency given for a specific window of the strings movement.

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When you first pick a note, there's a lot of harmonic content that rapidly "settles down" and leaves the fundamental as the most prominent frequency. If you were going to use a meter like a Fluke and you were looking for middle C, it helps to know that middle C is 261.6hz ahead of time because when you first pick it, there's going to be numberslike 523. and 784. (the 2nd and 3rd harmonics) bouncing around before it settles to 261.6 (the fundamental). On a strobe, the upper bars will be flashing until it settles down to the lowest one.

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the sacredness of sound, and it turns out the great pyramid is full of things related to sound,

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So I multiplied 7 x 2 = 14 x 2 etc. and also 7 by 7 = 49 x 49 = 2401 x 2= 4801, 49 x 7= 343 x 2 = 686 x2 = 1372 etc etc.

and and then compared that list to a piano frequency chart and composed a piece from that logic. Using only notes that were in the ball park.
It is since lost, but was interesting.
I was listening to Wendy Carlos microtonal stuff at the time.

I just recently read new technology has determined the beat frequency of the universe is 4.5hz... so maybe it was ALL wrong...
and maybe now I'll try one from 4.5hz some time.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 19 May 2003 at 03:41 AM.]

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I just recently read new technology has determined the beat frequency of the universe is 4.5hz..

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Donny, some time ago, I was reading an article on the freq of the earth, which was the pulses or vibrations that had been measured by a satellite and the number was an Eb after it was transposed up about 20 octaves. So I just did a calc for what might be the resonant freq based on the earth being 25k miles in circumferance and if it was made of steel. Sound travels through air approx 1100 ft/sec at sealevel, it travels through steel around 18996062 ft/sec and if that were the case, then the resonant freq of the earth would be .0004521-------which transposed up 20 octaves would be 474.066hz, between Bb and B. On the other hand, I just got back from a rehearsal and there's a good chance that I'm just plain confused.

[This message was edited by chas smith on 20 May 2003 at 11:34 PM.]