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Topic: 10 String single neck Fender??
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Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 11 February 2004 10:23 AM
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I haven't seen the guitar.The guys bringing it over Monday.He's new to steel but in assures me it hasn't been modified.I thought it might be a Fender made by Sho`Bud .Some remember those.However he say's it's red with the black frame.Makes no sense to me.Anyone seen a 10 string single neck 400?? Thanks .....bb |
Fred Glave Member From: McHenry, Illinois, USA
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posted 11 February 2004 10:44 AM
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What I believe you got there is a Fender 800 *The Fender 400 is a single neck 8 string *The Fender 800 is a single neck 10 string *The Fender 1000 is a double neck 8 string *The Fender 2000 is a double neck 10 stringNone of them came from the factory with knee levers. However you could have extra pedals installed upon request. I have a 2000 and am learning that installing knee levers is probably not going to be that difficult. Unless this a newer model...say post 1972, I'm not too sure if it's a straight Fender, or a Fender-Sho-Bud. And I wouldn't know for sure what the model name for that would be.[This message was edited by Fred Glave on 11 February 2004 at 10:47 AM.] |
Michael Johnstone Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA
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posted 11 February 2004 10:49 AM
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Sounds like a mid 60s Fender 800 6 pedal cable guitar.I've got one and they sound great - a bit on the big heavy side. I put 6 knee levers and dual 10 string Stringmaster style pickups/blender on mine to complete my Fender fantasy. But like Buddy Emmons once said "I finally got my $h!+ together and now I can't lift it" -MJ- |
Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 11 February 2004 11:53 AM
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Thanks guys.I never knew about the 800.A little before my time.Anyone know what one in average condition might be worth?? Thanks in advance.....bb |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 11 February 2004 12:13 PM
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Hey Bobby---Mike Bagwell GAVE me one--tee hee! |
Fred Glave Member From: McHenry, Illinois, USA
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posted 11 February 2004 12:17 PM
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Maybe $500.00 or so. But it's real worth is what someone is willing to pay. I bought my 2000 for $650.00, but I would have been willing to pay a little more if I had to. On Ebay there are no rules. You might get $1,000.00 or more. Or maybe not. You have to remember that those Fenders are old and heavy. There are more modern guitars that are less of a hassle. But that classic Fender sound is almost impossible to replicate. And the cable set up makes tuning changes fast and simple...an experimenters dream. I'll always keep mine regardless of what else I get.[This message was edited by Fred Glave on 11 February 2004 at 12:24 PM.] |
C Dixon Member From: Duluth, GA USA
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posted 11 February 2004 12:42 PM
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Bobby I don't have any idea what they are worth. Here is the breakdown as far as I recall: The first Fender PSG ever made was a 1000; D-8 with 8 pedals; up to 10 pedals could be ordered. The second one was a 400, S-8 with 4 pedals; up to 10 pedals could be ordered. (My fist PSG was one of these ordered with 6 pedals). Both models were single raise/single lower systems and came with the ability to have one or two changes per pedal. Optional slave loop cables could be purchased to increase the number of pulls per pedal. A few years later they came out with a new design and they issued two standard models, the 800, an S-10 with 6 pedals AND a 2000, D-10 with 10 pedals. The 800's could be ordered with up to 10 pedals. They were both double raise/double lower changers. The big design change on these babys was the moving bridge (sho-bud type) changer, that drastically cut down on the premature fixed bridge string breakage problem, of the 400's and 1000's. When the 800's and 2000's were introduced, they had the black surround aluminum frame; instead of the polished aluminum frame, the sunburst finish; and had cast black pedals, instead of the chrome stamped steel pedals. They followed shortly making the 400's and 1000's with these same color and cast features. Again, if my memory surves me right, they discountinued the 400's and 1000's not too long after the 800's and 2000's were introduced. Sadly, it was not long before Fender stopped making steel guitars all together and this included even lap steels. carl |
Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 11 February 2004 02:00 PM
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Steve if I could play like you I wouldn't have to pay for guitars either. Maybe he gave it to you so you wouldn't come back for lessions.  Thanks Carl and everyone.I'd still like to get more ideas as to what it's worth.It does however have 2 homemade knee levers. That's all the info I have at this time...........bb[This message was edited by Bobby Boggs on 11 February 2004 at 04:58 PM.] |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 12 February 2004 05:55 AM
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LESIONS???? Bobby, please run spell-check on future posts! I have never gotten lesions from MB, or any other member of this Forum  But that was a nice thing to say about my playing, and even though you were being sarcastic, I'll take it as a compliment. And do you really think Bagwell would GIVE something away???? |
Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 13 February 2004 09:39 AM
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Steve, Bobbe Seymour proof reads and approves all my Forun post. As for lesions Mike has given me plenty down thru the years.Now as for Mike giving something away. That's a good one. Just kidding.Mike has been good to me. Ok guys, I need ideas on what this thing might be worth.Thanks.........bb |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 13 February 2004 11:11 AM
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Bobby Fred nailed it.It sounds like a Fender 800 with the black almag frame. How much? depends..I would guess in good condition to be worth about $1000.00 to $1,200.00. |
Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 13 February 2004 02:26 PM
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Thank you Jody.Were their many of these made? I've been playing for 30 years and this is the 1st single 10 Fender I've seen.I've seen tons of 400's and 1000's.But never an 800.Maybe it's just the part of the country where I live.I'm only 4 hrs. from the Emmons Co. So everyone has 2 or 3 parked out behind the house sitting up on cement blocks.  |
Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 13 February 2004 03:54 PM
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Bobby Roy Ayres owned a Fender 800 that was made up special for him. Roy may be able to answer just how many were manufactured, I beleive Roy sold it not long ago on e bay. Roy offered this beauty to Forum members first and then after no interest was shown,,placed it on e bay and it sold for mucho bucks.I would take a guess that over 1200 10 string 800's were manufactured during that time I was still with Fender and in the 1970's Fender decided to stop producing most all steel guitars and related products. I'll ask Roy when I hear from him. |
Roy Ayres Member From: Starke, Florida, USA
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posted 13 February 2004 04:17 PM
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Jody:Thanks for linking me to this thread in your email. As you know, I worked for Fender as Director of String Instrument Development in the mid sixties -- but I had no personal part of any of the steel guitar designs. You are right in that I had a Fender 800 made up to my specs -- 10 strings, 8 pedals and 2 knee levers with a solid black finish. (Someone told me black had a better tone ? ? ?) I sold it a few months ago for $860 on eBay. I should have put a higher reserve on it though -- at least a thousand. Jody, your guess at the number manufactured would be much better than mine, but I suspect the real authority on that matter would be Gene Fields. |