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Topic: Inlay" on Sho Bud and other wood guitars?
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Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 02 March 2004 03:27 PM
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You know that fancy "inlay" stuff on the front of many wood guitars. I've seen it a million times.. Buds, ZB's tons of other guitars.Don't think I'm dumb but I have NO idea what that is. It couldn't possibly be real wood inlay////could it?.. I hope its just some kind of great decal stuff that just sticks on and then you lacquer over. I am ashamed to admit I've owned several steels "trimmed "this way and NEVER even thought about it. I'm more familiar with the mechanicals when it comes to pedal steel guitars.. No Problem!... the wood??? FORGET about it!.. Anyway,I'd like this look for the new maple body going on my trust old MSA.. How to get it? any insights??? bob |
Jim Eaton
Member From: Santa Susana, Ca
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posted 02 March 2004 03:30 PM
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It is real wood, that you buy in strips that are glued into shallow slots in the body.
JE:-)> |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 02 March 2004 03:38 PM
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it's called Marquetery(french word)inlaid work in wood
many moons back someone posted a link to vendors selling it
sorry i can't help Bob but i'm sure someone will steer ya' there |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 02 March 2004 03:49 PM
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Like Jim said. You can buy preassembled inlay strips from luthier and woodworking supply shops. If you need 'em, I can come up with some links. Here's an example of cool stuff you can do with prefab inlays--  |
Jon Graboff
Member From: NYC, NY
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posted 02 March 2004 04:17 PM
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Hey Jon Light, I don't mean to split hairs but watching endless hours of the Antique Road Show has provided us with the ultimate answer. One of their experts explained that wood inlay in natural forms ie: flowers and birds, etc. is marquetry. Wood inlay in a geometric form like the fingerboard design in the photo you posted and the classic Sho-bud rope style inlay is called parquetry! At this point in history, it seems that both forms have been lumped together as "marquetry". I watch too much TV... JG[This message was edited by Jon Graboff on 02 March 2004 at 04:18 PM.] [This message was edited by Jon Graboff on 02 March 2004 at 04:18 PM.] [This message was edited by Jon Graboff on 02 March 2004 at 04:20 PM.] |
Jack Anderson
Member From: Scarborough, ME
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posted 02 March 2004 04:19 PM
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Here's one source: click |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 02 March 2004 04:23 PM
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Hey--I called it inlay. It's them French dudes that are doing the froo-froo antiques road show fancy word stuff. Go see if there's any Beavis & Butthead on. BTW--that's a detail photo of a guitar I started building 5 years ago that awaits my finding the motivation to get around to completing it. Jack got one of the links I was gonna provide. Here's another--
http://www.constantines.com/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=266&1=265&2=-1 [This message was edited by Jon Light on 02 March 2004 at 04:25 PM.] |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 02 March 2004 05:53 PM
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Unh...right. The Boston Celtics play on a "parquet" floor, not a "marquet" floor. And that would be Larry Byrd, the white man who could jump. Now, I wonder if he was any relation to Jerry, that white guy who plays Hawaiian steel..., okay, never mind...I'm drifting... |
Jack Anderson
Member From: Scarborough, ME
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posted 02 March 2004 06:01 PM
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That's a nice looking fretboard, Jon -- too bad not many steels get that kind of treatment.... |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 02 March 2004 06:32 PM
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If it is equal patterns it is Parquet, just like the old Boston Garden floor.Marquetry is putting marks, like a builders log, and.or designs like artwork on woodwork, this goes back millenuims over here, hence the origins of the words. No matter how you look at it it is fine cabinet work on those old steels, and deserves good design work too. I don't like formica too much. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 02 March 2004 06:56 PM
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The inlays are just pieces (combinations of sticks and sheets) of different colored (or dyed) woods which are stacked and laminated together (like plywood), and then sliced edgewise into very thin "ribbons" (usually about 1/32"). Sometimes, other materials (like extruded plastic, or even metals like brass) are combined with the wood for even more striking decorative effects.A shallow groove is milled into the wood of the instrument, and the strips (composed of many hundreds of pieces) are simply glued in place. What looks like countless hours of fine detailed inlay work can be applied in just a few minutes using these strips. It's a modern, high-speed technique to convey the image of "old-world" artistry and craftsmanship.[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 02 March 2004 at 06:57 PM.] |
Nicholas Dedring
Member From: Brooklyn, New York, USA
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posted 03 March 2004 05:37 AM
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There's a link on the options page on Bill Rudolph's website for Williams Guitar Company, that links to a page of catalog stuff for inlay strips. It's a third party, and you can choose the inlay you want from that catalog. Try going through his site, and you can find that third party that will sell you the strips. Traditional inlay was done piece by piece hand cut and fit, but this is a shortcut for the rest of us... just mill in a straight groove, and glue in the strips.Jon (Graboff)... I'm glad I'm not the only one on here who has antiques roadshow knowledge ready to bust out in an emergency  |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 03 March 2004 08:16 AM
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I am considering a new pedal steel. I recently ordered several different styles of inlay from Constantines. It only costs a few dollars for a 36" strip of inlay material. When you are talking thousands of dollars for a new pedal steel, I thought that this was a very small investment to make to determine the inlay I wanted on my guitar. I am going to combine a wood inlay (1/4") with a very thin strip of pearl inlay (1/16") on each side. Very similiar to what I've been seeing on some of the custom Fessenden guitars that are being built.
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