However, I must say that I did take stuff from steel and use it well on the banjo-- mostly a better understanding of moving chords and voicings.

AB Pedals Down
Pick strings: 2, 4, 2, 4, 3, 2, 4, 3 (repeat many times)

The bar can be on whatever fret you need for the key.
Use the middle finger on string 2, Index on 3, thumb on 4.

Start slow and work it up to mm=140.

[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 02 May 2004 at 05:55 PM.]

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I guess guitar players with b benders should quit refering to the licks they do with them as steel licks

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1-
2- 2     2
3-       
4-    T      T

above is the first part a 2/t alternate movement with the right hand in a 0.0 grip in the 4th position. (T=thumb, 1=first finger, 2=second finger)

1-
2-       2
3-  1          1
4-          T

Then you make the above movement which can be seen as a 1/2 alternate and the a T/1 alternate or a forward roll starting on the first finger and returning to the first finger.

all together it looks like this...

1-
2- 2     2           2
3-                1             1
4-    T      T            T

My book My Approach to Pedal steel has tons of movements. You can also train your hand with my DVD#1 which breaks everything down into numbered movements. Then you just execute the moves you need and the resulting sound will be there.

This also directly relates to the consistency thread I read about. IF YOU WANT CONSISTENCY DO DRILLS not LICKS. Technique Bundle takes care of those problems.

Many times I encounter a comerical lick I need to learn, and Joe's method of breaking it into seperate movements is what I do.

I also remember Joe holding up his two hands and saying, "You've got to earn these. No amount of money will buy them for you." So true. You have to do the work.

Here's how I think of the lick I described above:

_______|______________________________________
__(0)__|________0____________0____________0___
_______|_________________0B__________0B_______
_______|__0__________0___________0____________
  (M)     T     M    T   I   M    T   I     M

The first note is only played once, that's why I wrote it as (0). The phrase gets repeated many times. Notice the last note is the same as the first, that's why the first is only needed once.

To use Joe's technique of breaking it up, I learn the first three notes, then do a forward roll (T, I, M) twice.

Somehow, thinking of "forward rolls" makes it easier to play fast.

Also the fact that no left hand is being used is part of Joe's "isolation" technique. Once you learn the right hand you can add the bar.

Thanks Joe. See ya Sunday.

[This message was edited by Joey Ace on 06 May 2004 at 04:26 PM.]

Great stuff, Joe!

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