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Topic: true tone pickups
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Paul Wade
Member From: Mundelein, Illinois, USA
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posted 20 June 2004 04:26 AM
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i was just wondering if puting a T.T pickup in my msa e9th neck would inprove the sound
or , would a G.L e66 work too? like to here from all of you with msa''s that change out pickups
paul wade 
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Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 20 June 2004 11:41 AM
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Paul-Do you have the MSA Supersustain II pickup now. I have that on my later model MSA Wood lacquer Universal S12 with the alum pocket and it sounds great to me, More like the old Sho-Bud sound, which I like.I have hear so much about the Jerry Wallace True-tones that they must be pretty good....al ------------------
My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus/ |
Bob Simmons
Member From: Trafford, Alabama, USA
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posted 20 June 2004 07:40 PM
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Don't know much about the TT, but have heard good comments. Upgrading would be good, but not the E66,too thin, I've installed a bunch of pf1&10-1's,sounds great. How you been doin-long time now, Bob |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 21 June 2004 01:02 AM
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i swapped my E66 for a TrueTone on my Zum
don't regret it  |
Larry Behm
Member From: Oregon City, Oregon
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posted 21 June 2004 04:42 AM
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The biggest mistake you will ever make is not putting them in your MSA.Larry Behm |
Palmer
Member From: New Bern,NC,USA
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posted 21 June 2004 05:02 AM
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Installed my TT over the week end. Really sounds great. Jack. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 21 June 2004 08:05 AM
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I've got a couple on order for the new Williams I'm having Bill Rudolph build for me. It's going to be a looker! 
Erv |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 21 June 2004 04:58 PM
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looks like another bike ride for you and the wife Erv !
better hope that ya'don't run outta GAS ? |
James Quackenbush
Member From: Pomona, New York, USA
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posted 22 June 2004 08:57 AM
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Erv,
Good Luck with your new Williams...I think you have the right idea....I have never heard a bad sounding TrueTone pickup, nor have I ever seen a bad looking , or sounding Williams .. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 22 June 2004 01:14 PM
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CrowBear,
Believe me, my wife would much rather I get another guitar than make her take another ride on the motorcycle.
James,
I ordered a D-10 in lacquer, wood necks, two tone w/custom inlay that I selected from Constantines. It is going to have 9 foot pedals and 10 knee levers (separate set of levers, both left and right knees, for C6th neck). Bill said it should be ready in a couple of months. He's working on 4 guitars at present and mine will be next. It's going to kind of a hybrid though. It's going to have the Tru-Tone pickups on it and Fessenden fretboards. Yes, that's right, Fessenden! I just love those longhorn fret markers!
Erv[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 22 June 2004 at 01:18 PM.] |
James Quackenbush
Member From: Pomona, New York, USA
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posted 22 June 2004 06:32 PM
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Erv,
It sound's like a great ax !!....Be sure to post pictures of it when you get it from Bill
( If you can stop playing it long enough ! )
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Gino Iorfida
Member From: Oakdale, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 22 June 2004 08:23 PM
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I put a TT in an old MSA (originally had the SuperSustain not the SS-II pickups), and the difference was night and day. VERY nice sounding pickup! Made a HUGE difference in the MSA. Tried the same in an Emmons push pull, the difference was there, however the bar I played in a lot had some strange EMF interference... single coils were out on ANY instrument...still wish I held on to the truetone, though... |
Scott Henderson
Member From: Eldon, Missouri, USA
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posted 22 June 2004 10:48 PM
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Is it very hard to replace a pick up? ------------------
Steelin' away in the ozarks and life,
Scott
www.scottyhenderson.com |
Doug Rolfe
Member From: Indianapolis, IN
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posted 23 June 2004 05:30 AM
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Hey Erv, with the different fret boards, does that make your new steel a Willy-Fessy? |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 23 June 2004 05:47 AM
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Scott it's not too bad.
You need a screw driver and a soldering kit.I just put an TT on my E9 to match the one on C6.
15 minutes to change either.
And totally happy with both. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 23 June 2004 06:53 AM
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Doug,
No, I'm going to call my new steel the "Left-Handed Norwegian's Pretty Good Guitar". The only drawback, though, is that Bill has to build it with a 6 foot string length to get the name on the front! 
Uff-Da![This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 23 June 2004 at 01:03 PM.] |
Scott Appleton
Member From: Half Moon Bay, California, USA
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posted 26 June 2004 12:49 PM
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the tt pu has made a significant tone improvement to my Mullen U12. I used to have a MSA Classic xl with
wood necks and the super sustain 2 PU's. The sound
was not all that good now that I look back I should have changed those PU' s to TT's.
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Mullen S12
Acoustic 165 100W tube
71 Tele, Regal 45, Gretch
Lap, Columbia Lap, Magnatone S8, Line 6 flextone 3, JBL d130, |
Ron Randall
Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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posted 26 June 2004 01:57 PM
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Paul
My experience is with a MSA Millineium. SU12.
Came with an E-66. Great sound, but I was curious about other pickups. I popped in a TT and I really like the sound. I will not try to describe tone, but it is a thicker and a bit darker sound with the same amp settings. I have also experimented with the Lawrence 12-1. Darker still. All sound very good, and the amp has knobs.
My favorite is the TT. hope this helps Ron |
Ricky Littleton
Member From: Steely-Eyed Missile Man from Orlando, Florida USA
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posted 26 June 2004 05:36 PM
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How 'bout a TT on a '93 LeGrande? Looking at spending some "steel" cash in the next few weeks and wondering about pick-ups. Also, what is the web address for True TOne? Ricky... ------------------
Emmons LeGrande - 8x4
Session 400 Ltd
Dan-Echo, E-Bow, Ibanez Distortion, Boss Comp./Sustain, Ibanez Auto-Wah, PX4 Pandoras Box |
Gary Ulinskas
Member From: San Diego, California, USA
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posted 26 June 2004 05:40 PM
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I put True Tones on my MSA U-12 in place of the George L that was on it. The real difference I found was in the sound and sustain above the 12th fret, which was much better. The sound just seemed to die before, now it is much better.------------------
Gary Ulinskas
MSA S-12 + Walker mono [This message was edited by Gary Ulinskas on 26 June 2004 at 05:44 PM.]
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Jeff A. Smith
Member From: Angola,Ind. U.S.A.
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posted 26 June 2004 08:03 PM
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I have a '76 MSA Classic S-10, and it originally had the Supersustain. I had an E-66 in it for quite awhile, then went to a True Tone wound at 17.5 (I don't think I would want it any darker-sounding). The TT is by far the best of the three. The only thing that may take a little extra attention is if your MSA has an adjustable height metal plate that the pickup mounts on. Unlike humbuckers that can have bolts mounted in the middle of the pickup, Jerry Wallace can't do that with the True Tone single-coil. I had to be a little creative with mounting mine, but it isn't a big deal. By now I am sure Jerry can give you all the advice you need. Make the swap to a TT and you won't be sorry, unless you absolutely have to have a humbucker. If I had to have a humbucker on my MSA, I would probably try something else besides an E-66 this time. Looking back, the results with that pickup weren't that great on my particular guitar. I know a lot of people think E-66's are great on MSA's, so --for comparison's sake-- I wouldn't mind playing some other MSA's that have them. I'm playing an Emmons LeGrande most of the time now, and I'll probably swap out the single-coil it has on E9 with a TT sometime; it's just not a pressing issue at the moment. |
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