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Topic: What do you guys sit on?
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Paul Matthews
Member From: Westhoughton, Lancs, England
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posted 07 October 2004 05:34 AM
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I am a new steeler - had it for three weeks and been on holiday (vacation) for one of them, and was wondering what you generally sit on?I have seen some storage seats, the look a decent idea, but don't look very adjustable. I am currently using an ancient, borrowed drum stool that makes me stop after about 25 mins if I want to feel my legs? Thanks,
Paul. ------------------
Absolute beginner!
Bennet Freshman E9 3+3 |
Matt Hutchinson
Member From: London, UK
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posted 07 October 2004 05:45 AM
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Hi Paul & welcome to the forum.Hope you're enjoying the Bennett, I had mine for 4 years & it did me proud (wish I could say I did the same for it!). After years of using crap chairs of varying heights I bought a cheap folding keyboard bench for £14 off Ebay (new) which adjusts up to about 19" in height and is fine for me. You might want one that goes a little higher depending on your height though. It's portable, light and I can play for 2 hours without losing the feeling in my feet. Feel free to get in touch if you want to chat to another UK steel player. Matt ------------------
'1983 Sierra Crown gearless U12 & Fender 75'
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John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 05:56 AM
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Paul, height is very important to me now. The pac-seats most of us use are not adjustable in height. You can order a seat and specify the height or do like I did and change the leg length on a ready made seat.
I can think of 3 popular seats made by steel players.
"Steelers Choice" by Kenny Rollins. "Walker" by Ray Walker and "GFI" by Gene Fields. I am sure there are more, but these are the most popular in my opinion.
After using a seat with the "side kick" compartment I am spoiled. I like the idea of having some storage that I can get to without getting off the seat.
My friend Scotty has some pictures at www.scottysmusic.com . He also has good prices. There are other websites you can find which offer pictures and prices.
Good hunting........JD |
Robert Porri
Member From: Windsor, Connecticut, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 05:56 AM
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Paul, I haven't been playing a long time, but when I bought my PSG last December I needed something adjustable for a seat. After buying the PSG, I couldn't spend a lot. I found an "On Stage Stands Extreme" folding seat at Guitar Center for I think $49 (it might have been on sale for a little less). For me it's convenient and comfortable. I may get one of the fancier PSG seats eventually, but I found this one to be a good all purpose one. I've also seen it in at least one other player's photo that was posted somewhere.Bob P. |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 07 October 2004 05:58 AM
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A generic X type keyboard seat for the cheap light thing.
A pack-a-seat type is a good idea, but MUCH more expensive to get over here.My buddy just baught a 10 string lapsteel with legs in a case,
and shipped it over for the same TOTAL price as a storage seat.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 07 October 2004 at 05:58 AM.] |
Chris Brooks
Member From: Providence, Rhode Island
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posted 07 October 2004 06:05 AM
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Paul,I have used a Tama drum stool for years. Built like a tank, thick padding, adjusts for height. Legs fold up and the seat comes off. I carry all my stuff--cords, strings, and the seat in a durable old Samsonite suitcase. Works for me. Chris ------------------
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john buffington
Member From: Owasso Ok USA
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posted 07 October 2004 06:19 AM
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Steeler's Choice for me by Kenn Rollans, 3 of them and Kenny can make the legs any height you want them. Wouldn't leave home without it!
John Buffington |
Matt Hutchinson
Member From: London, UK
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posted 07 October 2004 06:20 AM
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Hi again,There was a pac-a-seat on the for sale bit of the British Steelies site for £50 a week or so ago, might be worth a look. Matt ------------------
'1983 Sierra Crown gearless U12 & Fender 75'
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Glyn Bone
Member From: Halifax.Nova Scotia. Canada
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posted 07 October 2004 06:36 AM
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Hi Paul and welcome to the world of frustration and the dreaded ` Sorebums` lol
my old seat was a cheap drum stool that was good for maybe two songs ( as long as they were short ) I now use a Dixon drum seat that I can sit on for hours at a time, in fact during breaks I have often just remained sitting there with no discomfort at all...the seat itself is somwhat like a Yamaha Cruiser seat, round and largish with the `dips` where the legs go and a small lip right around the rear...super comfy and well worth the money IMHO. the legs are fully adjustable for height ect too and well made and sturdy.Glyndwr |
Per Berner
Member From: Skövde, Sweden
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posted 07 October 2004 06:38 AM
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For playing around the house, nothing beats a good office-type chair on wheels. I got mine from IKEA for just 60 USD and it has served me well since 1993. The seat leans a tad forward, the height adjustment range is more than enough, it's got excellent lumbar support (very important!) and you can sit in it for hours without getting tired. It's not heavy - but way too bulky to take out on a gig, I guess.
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Emmons Legrande II D10 8+5, Goodrich 120, Peavey Nashville 1000 |
Paul Matthews
Member From: Westhoughton, Lancs, England
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posted 07 October 2004 06:41 AM
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Thanks for the replies so far!Matt - I have seen the ad and dropped Les an email. I am not convinced fixed height is a good idea just yet, but it is worth an enquiry. Thanks to everyone else as well - I suspect there may be a few more comments coming. My bulk probably won't help finding deats comfortable - I am 5'11" and 18 stone (250 pounds) ------------------
Absolute beginner!
Bennet Freshman E9 3+3 |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 06:54 AM
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I agree an office secretary chair is good at home. For gigs I carry a small x type keyboard bench. This is fine for one set at a time, but without a back and more padding, it could be uncomfortable for a long night. I got a Steeler's choice with a back and a sidekick compartment. It was custom made to my height specification and is extremely comfortable. But it is very heavy. I thought I would be able to use its storage and not have to bring along my usual gig bag for pedals, FX unit, power strip, chords. etc. But it would not hold everything I need. So it ended up being just an additional heavy item for me to lug around. I stopped using it and went back to the small, lightweight keyboard stool. Now I'm sitting on it at home, but I'm thinking of selling it and going back to a $40 office chair at home. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 07:10 AM
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I had Kenny build me a Steelers Choice seat with the back rest and the side kick. It is an excellent unit. It sure is handy when you break a string to just open that little side compartment and get what you need. Wouldn't be without it! 
Erv |
randy
Member From: shelbyville, illinois, usa
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posted 07 October 2004 07:40 AM
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I've got a pack seat with a back on it. I added big ugly rubber feet so it would set me up a little higher. I really only use the back during little breaks I take. I'm pretty happy with the seat. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 07 October 2004 08:22 AM
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since gettin' a pack a seat is rather costly to get over here
(i prefer spendin' the $$$ on somethin' else)
i too use a generic foldin' & adjustable keyboard seat.
works fine for me (75kilos) |
Robert Thomas
Member From: Mehama, Oregon, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 08:41 AM
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I use a standard folding chair. I put 3/4" pipe in the legs for the additional height I needed and fastened the pipe with pop rivets. My wife made a cover for my 2" thick piece of foam and I attached the pad to the chair seat with velcro. Very inexpensive to make and very portable. I have used it for about 7 years now. I just finished a 4 1/2 hour gig recently, with only one ten minute break and had no problem with tired butt. Might work for others also, if you are so inclined. Foam $2.00, velcro $1.99 and a used chair for $5.00 at the most and about 50 cents worth of pipe. Beats the cost of a pac-a-seat. |
John Bresler
Member From: Medford, Oregon
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posted 07 October 2004 08:51 AM
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I use a Edgar Pro Seat. One thing to think about is carrying the accessories for your steel such as cords, volume pedal, picks, bar, etc. A good Pro touring seat has the capacity for carrying all this stuff inside and makes the location change so much smoother and easier. |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 07 October 2004 08:55 AM
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For awhile, I did sit on a "modified" stepstool that my drummer friend fabricated for me at his dayjob. Before and after that and before pac-seats, I relied on an empty beer case on a folding chair.  www.genejones.com |
Glenn Austin
Member From: Montreal, Canada
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posted 07 October 2004 09:17 AM
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I have a WC Edgar seat too, and I really like it. Super comfortable, and it holds a lot of stuff.
As far as the high cost in Europe, well, you could build your own pac a seat easily if you have some tools. Plywood box, piano hinge for the lid. Aluminum boat seat hinges for the backrest, and steel electrical conduit for the legs. All things that are available in hardware stores. The toughest thing to do is bending the tubing for the legs. That requires a pipe bending jig. Become friends with a plumber. |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 07 October 2004 09:24 AM
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Glenn, i got a buddy who's a plumber and i know what that steel bendin' jig is you mention (cintreuse in french)
you're right 'bout makin' a pack a seat
all the ingredients can be found here.
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Chippy Wood
Member From: Elgin, Scotland
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posted 07 October 2004 09:30 AM
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Hi Paul,
I've been using an organ bench from my Technics Electric organ,which has proved to have been very useful but I'm changing over to a Walker Sidecar soon.------------------
Ron (Chippy) Wood
Emmons D10
Carter SD10
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 09:38 AM
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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/441857/
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Billy Murdoch
Member From: Glasgow, Scotland, U.K.
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posted 07 October 2004 09:41 AM
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Hi Paul,
Some bum stole my seat |
Terry Sneed
Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 10:05 AM
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Hey Paul, if ya gonna play steel guitar ya might as well get comfortable.
I have an ELite pac seat with back rest which is very comfortable.
there were several used pac seats in buy and sell here on the forum for a good price.
check um out if their still for sale. look under amps-accesories
Terry------------------
84 SKH Emmons Legrand D10
session 400'rd Steelin for my Lord. [This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 07 October 2004 at 10:07 AM.]
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Glenn Austin
Member From: Montreal, Canada
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posted 07 October 2004 10:39 AM
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Hey Crowbear, you're all set, once you build your pac a seat you could display it at the "Sorebuns" museum, or is it Sorbonne.  If you're gonna "roll your own" seat, make sure you don't cut your fingers off. Faites Attention! |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 07 October 2004 01:21 PM
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d'accord Glenn
as much as i like workin' w: hand & power tools, i've always taken care of my hands
la Sorbonne c'est a coté de St Michel et Cluny dans le quartier des beatniks
Ach ! Paris et cholie mademoizelles |
Jennings Ward
Member From: Edgewater, Florida, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 02:22 PM
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Dont know what he said, but when I first got my steel , I built on to order to fit my buns. try it..... I built it out of scrap wood and upholstery material, even put whells on it, couldn't afford a motor......Jennings ------------------
EMMONS D10 10-10 profex 2 deltafex ne1000 pv1000, pv 31 bd eq, + |
Dustin Rigsby
Member From: Columbus, Ohio
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posted 07 October 2004 03:13 PM
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I too am a new steel player. I bought a keyboard bench to use,but,I am kicking around the idea of building a pac-a-seat. I would buy one,but,I am a cheapskate.------------------
D.S. Rigsby
Carter Starter and various six string toys |
Charles Curtis
Member From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 03:53 PM
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I use a padded chair from the dining room at home; (bedroom picker) but a while back I was playing a psg at a local music store and the guy gave me a seat normally used by a drummer. Hey, I think it's great. |
Archie Nicol
Member From: Ayrshire, Scotland
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posted 07 October 2004 04:18 PM
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I have always used a seat with a back.
Being just back to playing steel after several years and a few stones later, my favourite seat is a bit wobbly, as you may have noticed, Billy. I may need a custom built, heavy duty model, but isn't beer great? |
Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 06:30 PM
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If ya need somethin' in a hurry, Radio Shack has a heighth adjustable keyboard bench for $39.95 that works well. I have one so's I can keep the pac-a-seat at the Emmons and flit between the two Dekleys. It's RS part number 42-4063. Just go to radioshack.com & enter the part number to see it. |
Jim Dempsey
Member From: Belmar, New Jersey, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 06:40 PM
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I used a keyboard bench for awhile,now i have a ROC N SOC drum throne.Nice !-Jim |
Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 07 October 2004 07:38 PM
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I use a ToteSeat (formerly known as Edgar Pro Case). I don't think he makes them anymore.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 07 October 2004 at 07:39 PM.] |
Jack Anderson
Member From: Scarborough, ME
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posted 07 October 2004 08:21 PM
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For playing out I use two milk crates, with one of them shortened to adjust the total height, and an upholstered seat on top which I made to fit. They are light, easy to pick up together or separately, and hold a lot of stuff (pedal, stomp boxes, cables, extension cords, snacks -- even milk!). Now that I have two matching black crates, it looks pretty slick! |
Ricky0ne1
Member From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 08:27 PM
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Welcome to SGF Paul! I'm rather new to steel myself (almost 2 years). I bought a Roc-N-Soc w/back. It's just like the seat Buddy Cage uses. That must be what influenced me to seek one. Looks like a big bicycle seat. It's really comfy and swivels, and has the hydraulic(is that what it is?) height adjustment. They are a little pricey(about $185 w/back), but then most good pack-a-seats are up around there. Only problem I know of is ya can't pack nuttin' in it. ------------------
Rick Summers
-RAWOODS Custom Shop- West Peoria, IL rick@rawoods.com
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Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 07 October 2004 09:09 PM
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I used my first Sho Bud PIII case until it wore out. Then I liked one of those wooden milk crates in every club with the mesh in the bottom. Just the right height.Then 20 year of whatever chair I can find in the club I'm playing. Folding chairs work fine. Looking forward to again using a case. One I had built by Texascase and sent to Marrs for my Professional to be sent out here in. I tried a couple packaseat type seats, but I lost them. EJL |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 07 October 2004 11:16 PM
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I think I'm still at least 35-yrs. behind the times! I'm still using ‘one of the very first’ {Duane Marrs} SHOBUD Pack-A-Seats, which Shot sold to me for $20! [Sorry ’bout that Duane!] Over the years I did put more foam-rubber and a new covering on the seat and increased the heigth 1½” with white conduit pipe-connecters. Sometime I need to paint them aluminum to match the original-legs! Once in a while it screaches a little, but; tightening a few screws and a little oil solves that problem! ------------------
“Big John” Bechtel
(2)-Fender ’49–’50 T–8 Customs
Fender ’65 Reissue Twin-Reverb Custom™ 15”
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Logan Wilkerson
Member From: Franklin, Tennessee, USA
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posted 08 October 2004 03:30 AM
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old sho~bud storage seat! very comfy for me.....------------------
sho-bud proII custom
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Jerry Hayes
Member From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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posted 08 October 2004 04:47 AM
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I used my old ShoBud seat from '77 until about a year ago when I got the Walker Deluxe wide model with the folding back from Ray Walker. I never thought I'd ever pay that much for a seat ($325.00) but it was dang well worth every penny. Ray has a great product out there and very well thought out with some little extra touches. Have a good 'un, JH------------------
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Savell
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posted 08 October 2004 07:53 AM
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