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Topic: Knee Lever Combination
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 10 February 2005 08:49 AM
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Lowering the 5th string half a step (B to A#) is a very common knee lever change.
Lowering the 9th string half a step (D to C#) is another very common change.
Does anyone here routinely use these levers together?
I see that they produce a major 6th interval and a C#m6 chord, but I don't think I've ever needed that position.
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Bengt Erlandsen
Member From: Brekstad, NORWAY
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posted 10 February 2005 10:14 AM
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From the 5 2 1 string viewpoint they function as releasing A & B pedals 2 frets above on strings 6 5 4.
A little bit dependent on where the changes are located and how easy it is to use them together.
On my ext E9 I have the 5thstr B-Bb on the rightmost pedal and use it with RKL which lowers 2nd str D#-D-C#.
I also like to use the 2nd string as root note = C#, and use the B-Bb to change between the b7 and the 6th note.
If one can use the E's to F at the same time even more possibilities can be found.at 8th fret try E's to F and 2nd str lowered to C#, play strings 5 4 2 and release E-F and activate B-Bb for a I7 to IV7. Even with E's-Eb and 2nd string to C# there are nice combinations w the B-Bb at the same time. Chords on strings 7 5 2 might also sound good using B-Bb along with 2nd str D#-C#. If you have the possibility to use those changes together don't hesitate to explore different combinations. Lots of nice stuff to be found. Bengt Erlandsen OOOPS
The question was about using the 9th string lowered to C# along with B-Bb. Some of what I posted will apply but not all.
There are still several nice things to be found using different strings in combination w 9 D-C# and 5 B-Bb[This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 10 February 2005 at 10:21 AM.] [This message was edited by Bengt Erlandsen on 10 February 2005 at 02:00 PM.] |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 10 February 2005 01:09 PM
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I understand that there are possibilities, Bengt, but my question is whether anyone actually uses them together. It seems that almost every musical possibilty that I can think of for those two levers together is also available 1 fret lower without the levers.
For example, you can use them at the IV fret to get a V7 chord, but those same notes are available at the III fret with levers F+G. |
Bengt Erlandsen
Member From: Brekstad, NORWAY
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posted 10 February 2005 02:31 PM
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I would be one that use the combination of 9th D-C# and 5 B-Bb.
Using both together makes string 9 8 7 6 5 = strings 10 9 8 7 6 at 2 frets up. So it would seem like there is an additional 11th string when using lowering both str 9 & 5.
Also what can't be done in the other position would be... lower 9 to C#, play strings 9 7 5 w A pedal, then release A pedal and then engage B-Bb. That would require a G#-B pull on the 6th string to do in the other position.
I use both lower together w B pedal for some soloing or I use both lowers w A+B where A is split tuned to C where string 9 8 7 6 has a maj6th voicing w str 8 7 6 5 min6th voicing on top. I could probably find more examples where I would use the combination. Anyway I am one that will use the combination of lowering 9th and 5th string at the same time. Bengt |
David L. Donald
Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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posted 10 February 2005 02:52 PM
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I use s9 as a C# all the time,
and I feel like and idiot for m not noticing this as a root with Bb.It is a very differnt slide up 3 frets,very cool, minor 1 before the IV and also is a nice diferent VI on the I fret. I will look for this as a passing chord a lot for now on. |
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