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Topic: How to get modern country/Nashville sound ?
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John Lockney Member From: New Market, Maryland, USA
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posted 24 February 2005 02:04 PM
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How do they get the steel sounds on those "new" Country songs on the radio, e.g. "Mud on the Tires", "Paint me a Birmingham", "If Heaven were a pie", "Some Beach", "Monday Morning Church", etc. In particular, what is the difference between the steel sound on these songs and the sound on "Sweetheart of the Rodeo" ? It almost sounds like another instrument. To me it seems there is almost zero pick-attack and soaring chords with infinite sustain. Is it the volume pedal that gives it that distinctive sound ? I have only played a few weeks and I have been following some advice found on the Forum to "ignore the volume pedal until you can pick cleanly." |
Randy Reeves Member From: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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posted 24 February 2005 02:22 PM
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I wonder if the music is engineered during recording. a compressor would do what you describe. live, my amp has all the compression my steel needs. |
Steve Hitsman Member From: Waterloo, IL
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posted 24 February 2005 03:19 PM
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John,I think the fact that you're asking indicates that it's time to start using your volume pedal. |
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 24 February 2005 03:20 PM
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All the compression the studio geeks use nowadays certainly has an effect, but I think most of the difference is due to technique of the player, and the tone settings of the amps. I can't think of any player today (except maybe Doug Jernigan), that sounds/plays the same way he did 30 years ago. Popular sounds and styles seem to change every decade or so. |
Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 24 February 2005 04:25 PM
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I'll take the Sweetheart Of The Rodeo sound. |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 24 February 2005 04:42 PM
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Well I too would state that I really liked the Sweetheart of the Rodeo thing..but this is now some 30/35 years later..lots of things have changed..lots..count em'...The Steels, the players, the studio's, the quality of recordings, the preamps, the mics, THE PLAYING, the songs...the amps..THE AMPS, the PLAYING...the attitide of the players..so many things.. but I think at the end of the day ..the players and styles have really evolved...I don't think it is gimmicks in the studio, compression whatever..those that are gracing the tracks on the airwaves have 50 years of history and knowledge to draw from.. You mentioned Brad Paisley..the MUDD cd is exceptional for Steel with Randal and the first two CD's feature Mike Johnson, there are no gimmicks there...these 3 Brad CD's are really GOOD ! keep in mind that it's not just the Steels that sound good on recordings, they got those Tele's dialed in pretty good as well I would say... t [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 24 February 2005 at 04:43 PM.]
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Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 24 February 2005 06:24 PM
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FINE players these days for certain.. but todays technology is overwhelming in its scope. "Pitchy" notes modulated into perfect tune,effects so tastfully done so as not to be even recognized as effects,Eq techniques light years beyond what were used a few decades back. GREAT sounding players made to sound even better with great producers/engineers/.It still boils down to fine musicianship,but todays great players get a little more help than yesterdays greats IMHO... bob |
Burton Lee Member From: Denton, Texas, USA
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posted 25 February 2005 10:58 AM
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I'll bet its 100% in the hands and the feet.Burton Lee Denton, TX
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Ray Minich Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 25 February 2005 06:23 PM
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How do you get to Carnegie Hall, Henny Youngman asked... |
Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 26 February 2005 05:09 AM
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The BEST way to get a "modern country Nashville" sound is to throw the steel guitar,fiddle and banjo in the woodstove,and bring out the synthesizer,14 piece brass,woodwinds, grand piano, pipe organ,steel drums,timbales,Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir,and then let a hi fashion model sing the song.. or if its a "guy" song ,a studly,posturing ,Chippendale type guy wearing a black cowboy hat will really give it that modern "real country" sound...... sorry,,, couldn't resist..... bob |
Will Sevy Member From: Caldwell, ID ,USA
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posted 26 February 2005 05:21 AM
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I heard a story once that chet atkins was in the studio recording or something. Anyway, this guy tells Chet that he looking for that Nashville sound. Chet replies "You want the Nashville sound? Here it is." And while he sais this, he reaches into his pocket, pulls out some change, and jingles it inside his hand. I don't know for certain if this story is true, but it should be. |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada
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posted 26 February 2005 05:22 AM
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Looks like Bob is looking for Singing Work.  ....sorry, couldn't resist |
Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 26 February 2005 05:46 AM
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Joey.. yeah...maybe 25 years ago!!.. Actually,,, I was too ugly 25 years ago too! bob |
John Daugherty Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 26 February 2005 11:28 AM
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Burton, Go to the head of the class. You get an A+. I agree. Concentrate more on technique than you do on equipment. If I play someone elses equipment I sound like me. If they play mine, they sound like theirself. That's my story and I'm sticking to it...... JD |