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Topic: Fender 400 Factory Pedal Settings
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Al Gershen
Member From: Grants Pass, OR, USA
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posted 26 February 2005 07:08 PM
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Hi SGF:I happened to be looking thru the Fender support website looking for information about a used amplifier (M-80) that I tried out today at a local music store and I came across the Owner's Manual for the Fender 400 pedal steel guitar. Here's a link to a portion of the manual that I copied on my Charter website showing the factory setting for up to 8 pedals with that guitar: Fender 400 Factory Set Pedals.jpg There are several things that I find interesting with these factory pedal settings for the A6th tuning: 1. The standard diminished pedals which are side by side on the standard C6th tuning are shown here as pedals 5 and 8; 2. Pedal 1 is for the Bud Issacs change from an A chord to an E chord, thereby giving the tuning a country sound; and 3. The F13th pedal setting shown at the end of the chart is really quite interesting...pedals 3, 5 and 8. Has anyone who has memories of their Fender 400 or 1000 recall ever being able to arrange their feet to get this F13th sound? I still play my Fender 1000 but it's tuned with the standard E9th and C6th tuning, pedal and knee lever settings. Finally, has anyone any experience using the old Fender M-80 combo amp (single 12" speaker, 100 Watts) with a pedal steel guitar. I tried the amp with a lead guitar and it sounded very clean. What appealed to me about this amp is that its weight is very light. ------------------
Regards,
Al Gershen
Grants Pass, Oregon. USA
Fender 1000 (1957),
Fender PS 210 (1970) &
Gibson Electraharp EH-820 (1961)
Al's Photographs at http://www.alsphotographs.com
[This message was edited by b0b on 27 February 2005 at 12:23 PM.] |
Larry Behm
Member From: Oregon City, Oregon
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posted 27 February 2005 08:00 AM
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Al I had one, sold it to the fiddle player, had tons of high end, too much, needed more body.Larry Behm |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 27 February 2005 03:48 PM
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Al, those old Fender suggested tuning setups were pretty obsolete when they were published, and I don't think any pro player used them. I still remember that (F13th) change from the old 1000 manual, which said to press pedals 3,5,& 8. Yeah, good luck with that one!  |
John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 01 March 2005 10:36 AM
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According to this chart
their #8 = our #5
their #5 = our #6So, if you put pedals 5 and 6 where they usually belong these days, it would be pretty easy to change pedal 4 to try this out. |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 01 March 2005 01:04 PM
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After l©©king at the chart, it appears to me that except for the 1st. string being lowered, the standard 5/6 change is gotten on pedals 4/5: [D#]_[D]_A_F#_[D#]_[C]_A_F# I may have gotten it wrong. If so, I'll be back to apologize.  ------------------
“Big John” Bechtel
’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 01 March 2005 01:09 PM
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After re-examining the chart (which I haven't seen in years) I like the factory set-up the way it is!------------------
“Big John” Bechtel
’49-’50 Fender T–8 Custom
’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin–Reverb Custom™ 15” Eminence
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 01 March 2005 02:25 PM
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Well, whadya know?
Both 4 and 8 are lowering the 5th string.
No apologies necessary, I guess. |
Garry Vanderlinde
Member From: Garden Grove, California, USA
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posted 01 March 2005 09:35 PM
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There is a vintage 400 manual up on eBay right now, looks real nice!!! link; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7304547422&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
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Al Gershen
Member From: Grants Pass, OR, USA
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posted 06 March 2005 05:47 PM
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Hi SGF:I neglected to put the URL to the full Fender 400 manual in a .pdf file on the Fender Support website. The URL is: http://www.fender.com/support/manuals/pdfs/instr_owners/Fender_400_Pedal_Steel_Guitar_1967.pdf The manual lists other pedal suggestions besides the one set up on the instrument when it was shipped out to the Fender dealer. Enjoy! Regards,
Al Gershen
Grants Pass, OR
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