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Steven Welborn
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From: Ojai,CA USA

posted 10 March 2005 09:20 PM     profile     
since the magnetic flux of the pickup tends to work against a strings sustaining its vibration, anyone know the ideal distance between pickup and strings? OR...whats too close? Thanks.
David Doggett
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From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 10 March 2005 10:20 PM     profile     
The old rule of thumb is the thickness of two quarters for naked magnets, and the thickness of one quarter for covered pickups. For those outside the US, a quarter is a common medium-sized coin.
Ricky Davis
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From: Spring, Texas USA

posted 11 March 2005 08:43 AM     profile     
I personally don't go any closer than 3/16".

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Donny Hinson
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From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 11 March 2005 08:48 AM     profile     
Steve, experiments I've done make me disagree with the many players and builders that say this is a significant problem. On a regular electric guitar, where the pickups are farther from the bridge, they do tend to reduce the vibration a little. But on a steel guitar, the pickup (there's only one) is very close to the bridge, so they just don't have as significant an effect. Like "cabinet drop", I think this is one of the factors that has been sort of "blown out of proportion" on steel guitars.

To do your own test, simply place a magnet near an open string at the nut-end of the guitar (at the same distance from the nut as your pickup is from the bridge). Then, strike the open string, and move the magnet closer and farther from the string.

Notice any significant difference?

Neither did I.

Marco Schouten
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From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands

posted 11 March 2005 09:06 AM     profile     
It depends on the pickup.

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Lee Baucum
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From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier

posted 11 March 2005 09:40 AM     profile     
In another thread, Ricky mentioned the thickness of three quarters as being a good distance between the magnets and the strings. I tried that on my Mullen (stock pickup) and am very pleased with the tone.

Lee, from South Texas

Craig A Davidson
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From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

posted 11 March 2005 11:12 AM     profile     
How about a 17.5 TT and an 18.5 TT on a push-pull?
Steven Welborn
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From: Ojai,CA USA

posted 11 March 2005 10:26 PM     profile     
Thanks, that kind of clears it up. That makes sense Donny.
Dennis Detweiler
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From: Solon, Iowa, US

posted 12 March 2005 05:45 AM     profile     
I've never noticed any change in sustain with the pickup closer to the strings. However, I have experimented with tightening and loosening the neck screws with obvious results in sustain. But, here's a strange one: Very tight neck screws on aluminum necks will kill the sustain. Just barely snug is best. But, the opposite is true for wood neck guitars. I have a 1976 U-12 MSA with a wooden neck. I tightened the neck screws as tight as I could without stripping the screw heads. The sustain is unreal. Dennis
Ron Shepard
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From: Easthampton, MA, USA

posted 14 March 2005 08:51 AM     profile     
Well, after reading this post I decided to check the height of my pick ups in relation to the strings. By lowering them to about two or three quarters thickness.... I CAN'T BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE IT MADE! in clarity
sustain, everything. The highs are where they are supposed be and the lows as well.
since then I have eliminated the effects and am now playing with just my guitar and amp with now, less reverb. Thanks for this post
and to Dennis, I also loosened the screws a bit on the underside of the necks(they were
very tight) that contibuted to this huge difference I now have in sound.
Donny Hinson
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From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.

posted 15 March 2005 05:47 PM     profile     
quote:
By lowering them to about two or three quarters thickness....

Gosh Ron, How close were they to begin with? I've never been able to set mine any closer than two-quarters (a little over an eighth inch) because they hit the pickup when my hand touches the strings. I've found on all my guitars (MSA, Emmons, Marlen) that anything between an eighth inch and a quarter inch works pretty well, so I settled on three sixteenths.

Ron Shepard
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From: Easthampton, MA, USA

posted 16 March 2005 04:22 PM     profile     
Donny, they were too close, thats my 75 cents
worth.

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