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Topic: The best advice you ever had?????
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Leon Eneboe
Member From: Sisseton, South Dakota, USA
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posted 10 April 2005 05:50 PM
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In the number 2 issue of Pedal Steel.US, there is an article by Mike Smith entitled "Playing With Confidence". I read and re-read that article several times and as far as PSG playing is concerned...that article comprises the best advice I have ever seen. The purpose of this post is not to dredge up dissappointments on the demise of the magazine, but to point out a truly helpful article that was very good for me to read (and put into practice). Mike Smith, if you read this, you are entitled to see in black and white that your writing was and is very much appreciated. So...all you steelers out there, what was the best advice you aver received concerning taming the PSG? Leon Eneboe, Williams S12, Peavey l000, 400 and ll2 (Plus a lot of junk) |
Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 10 April 2005 05:52 PM
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From Curly Chalker: "You play fine, so quit making excuses, stop worrying about it, shuttup and play your guitar!"I'll never forget it, or him.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 10 April 2005 at 05:53 PM.] |
Jim Cohen
Member From: Philadelphia, PA
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posted 10 April 2005 06:21 PM
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"Don't come to Nashville"
- Jeff Newman |
Marty Pollard
Member From: a confidential source
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posted 10 April 2005 07:07 PM
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"You're never more than a half-step from the right note."
-Chuck Rainey------------------
www.martypollard.com
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Jody Sanders
Member From: Magnolia,Texas
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posted 10 April 2005 07:15 PM
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Get rid of that guitar and get a real job. Jody. |
Bruce W Heffner
Member From: Hamburg, Pa.
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posted 10 April 2005 07:24 PM
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Don't quit your day job...........Jeff Newman.------------------
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Patrick Carlson
Member From: Sutton, Nebraska, USA
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posted 10 April 2005 07:31 PM
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If you got deep enough pockets everyone will sell you something to improve your tone!  Curt Shoemaker------------------
The Lone Prairie Steeler Pat
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Larry Bell
Member From: Englewood, Florida
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posted 10 April 2005 07:59 PM
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In the number 2 issue of Pedal Steel.US, there is an article by Mike Smith entitled "Playing With Confidence". I read and re-read that article several times and as far as PSG playing is concerned...that article comprises the best advice I have ever seen.
Best advice: When Duane Marrs told me in 1978 or so to take a lesson or two from Mike Smith. I did and it made an impression on my playing that lasted until this day. I owe a lot to Mike. Plus, he's a helluva nice guy.  ------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps |
Larry Strawn
Member From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA
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posted 10 April 2005 08:00 PM
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You're the "only" steel player we got!!Just play! Jack Montgomery Larry ------------------
Emmons S/D-10, 3/4, Sessions 400 Ltd. Home Grown E/F Rack
"ROCKIN COUNTRY" |
Andy Greatrix
Member From: Edmonton Alberta
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posted 10 April 2005 08:08 PM
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The late Art Snider (owner of Sound Canada Recording studios)told me"If you're gonna make a mistake, make a f#$%@#g good one!"
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Randy Gilliam
Member From: San Antonio, Texas, USA
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posted 10 April 2005 08:58 PM
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If you keep practiceing someday we will let you play through an amp.Band Leader Clifton Jansky. |
Michael Garnett
Member From: Fort Worth, TX
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posted 11 April 2005 12:54 AM
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Me: "How can I play as good as you?"
Don Sowersby: "Easy. Just play 8 hours a day, every day for another 10-15 years."-Garnett |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 11 April 2005 02:07 AM
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still waiting for the "Best Advice "...t  |
sonbone
Member From: Dallas, Texas
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posted 11 April 2005 02:28 AM
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Didn't read the Mike Smith article, but the best advice I've gotten has been from Wally Moyers. He always told me to "stay aggressive". Judging from the title of the Mike Smith article I would say it's about the same thing. Jump in there, play hard, keep your ears open and add what you can at the right times. Sounds easier than it is, doesn't it?
Sonny ------------------
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Jerry Hayes
Member From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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posted 11 April 2005 04:54 AM
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From a Jeff Newman seminar in 1978. "When you're playing in a band and you make a mistake, just turn around and give the drummer a dirty look" Jeff had all kinds of good tips.....JH------------------
Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning. |
Smiley Roberts
Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
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posted 11 April 2005 05:59 AM
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If you hit a "clam",blame it on the singer! (ESPECIALLY if you happen to be workin' for Ashley Simpson!) ------------------
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©¿© It don't mean a thang,
mm if it ain't got that twang.
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John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 06:18 AM
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From Wyn Stewart:"If you're gonna play country,keep your boots on",meaning:enough of those jazz licks.
Also, to be accepted by the guys in the band:"make a mistake every once in a while so we'll know you're human". |
John McGann
Member From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 06:27 AM
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"Steel guitars can smell fear"Wes Montgomery was asked "Do you practice a lot"? "Naw, I just open up the case and throw in some raw meat"! ------------------
http://www.johnmcgann.com
Info for musicians, transcribers, technique tips and fun stuff. Joaquin Murphey transcription book, Rhythm Tuneup DVD and more...
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Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 06:31 AM
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"Steel guitars can smell fear"
Gonna frame that one and hang it on the wall.. Actually, dobermans are friendlier...[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 11 April 2005 at 01:14 PM.] |
Tony Harris
Member From: England
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posted 11 April 2005 06:46 AM
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Best advice? From my wife - "Never play that thing while I'm in the house"!!! |
Dave Van Allen
Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 11 April 2005 08:32 AM
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"Son, don't ever let anyone tell you how to play" - Josh Graves, circa 1974 |
Steve Hinson
Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA
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posted 11 April 2005 08:35 AM
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"Never bring up anybody's ex-wife..." |
Terry Edwards
Member From: Layton, UT
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posted 11 April 2005 08:46 AM
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"Remove your picks when you come to bed."-- my wife. Terry |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 11 April 2005 09:23 AM
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*[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 11 April 2005 at 11:46 AM.] |
Klaus Caprani
Member From: Copenhagen, Denmark
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posted 11 April 2005 09:29 AM
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One knee lever is to less!------------------
Klaus Caprani MCI RangeXpander S-10 3x4
www.klauscaprani.com
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Jim Lutz
Member From: Austin, Texas
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posted 11 April 2005 09:49 AM
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Don't keep anything that eats. |
Tom Stolaski
Member From: Huntsville, AL, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 09:53 AM
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"This full time music career thing is great, but have a backup plan"
My older sister in 1975 |
pix1
Member From: WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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posted 11 April 2005 10:49 AM
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"Get out and play with a band. That's the only way you're going to improve".Robbie Bossert |
Drew Howard
Member From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.
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posted 11 April 2005 01:24 PM
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Lloyd Green: "Play the same lick in three different positions" or words to that effect.------------------
Drew Howard - website - Fessy D-10 8/8, Magnatone S-8, N400's, BOSS RV-3
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Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 11 April 2005 01:52 PM
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Don't go sneakin' into that ride. When it comes your turn to take it...KICK THE PEDAL DOWN AND PLAY!
Johnny Roane (John McClean) And when I occasionally forgot this little tidbit of insight, Johnny would sneak up behind me, and slap me on the back and yell...RUN OVER IT, BOY!
Several times, he scared me so damn bad I dropped my bar!  It sure cured me of that bad habit, though! Then, at break time, he'd reiterate..."Donny, when you take a ride, you're the star, so play it like you're the star.
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Don McClellan
Member From: Kihei, Maui, Hawaii
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posted 11 April 2005 02:01 PM
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Klaus, Your english was not quite good enough this time to make any sense. Please try again.
Paul Franklin said, Play what you know." I try to keep that in mind. Don[This message was edited by Don McClellan on 11 April 2005 at 02:02 PM.] |
Billy Wilson
Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 02:17 PM
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After I had the gall to sit in on Vance Terry's 20 pedal monster he told me words to this effect: If you're gonna play that thing play the $h1T out of it!! Don't end up like(I won't name the steel player) we all made fun of him cuz we thought he played wimpy. |
Pat Kelly
Member From: Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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posted 11 April 2005 02:17 PM
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Don, maybe Klaus means - One knee lever is two too few!Pat K |
Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 11 April 2005 03:22 PM
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I got some good intonation advice from Little Roy Wiggins - and Roy said he got it from Jerry Byrd."If you can see the fret marker, you are flat". (Try it around the 3rd or 5th fret). (And I never quit my day job - until I retired).[This message was edited by Jack Stoner on 11 April 2005 at 03:23 PM.] |
Larry Hamilton
Member From: Amarillo, Texas, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 03:31 PM
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KISS.........Keep It Simple Stupid------------------
Keep pickin', Larry |
Paddy Long
Member From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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posted 11 April 2005 04:17 PM
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"The hardest thing for a musician to learn is knowing when NOT to play" ----advise from Buddy Emmons when I met him at Jeff's school in 82' |
Harold Dye
Member From: Cullman, Alabama, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 04:26 PM
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Jeff Newman once said "sometimes you sound best when you don't play'.My wife said when the singer starts to do the Elvis low crawl it's time to hit the bricks. |
Michael Johnstone
Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA
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posted 11 April 2005 07:05 PM
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About 30 years ago when I first decided to quit being a mediocre guitar player and become a mediocre steel player,I took a few lessons from an L.A. steel player I've since lost track of named Colin Kyffin. After a couple lessons where he showed me a handful of E9th kick-offs and turnarounds,he told me: "You don't need lessons - you need a six night a week gig". He also said "You'll suck for the first six months so let's get it over with". And then he proceeded to find me a steady working but not so great band that was thrilled to have any steel player - and I took it from there. Some guys never make that leap of faith and spend years picking in their bedrooms waiting till they're "good enough". Thanks for the kick in the ass Colin. -MJ- |
Larry Bell
Member From: Englewood, Florida
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posted 11 April 2005 07:13 PM
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MJ
That's exactly what I did. Glad to hear someone else jumped into the deep end of the pool. It's a little scary, but it will get you going (or FIRED) faster than any other way I know. ------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps |
John McClung
Member From: Los Angeles, CA, USA
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posted 11 April 2005 07:24 PM
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I'll say an "amen" to Mike Johnstone and others who credit playing with bands for quickly getting their steel guitar musicianship together. It's the same advice I give to MY students now, but the sad problem is, there are just so few opportunities to do that anymore. No steady house gigs, where on off nights you can experiment with new licks, new songs, if you screw up it's just a few bored drunks not paying attention anyhow. Most of us are weekend warriors now, at best, and it's not easy staying at the top of your game playing out that little.My best advice was from Danny Michaels (and the Rebel Playboys), I did a brief stint following Gary Morse in that band circa 1979: play the melody. Still great advice, and still what I emphasize with my budding stars. Playing with Danny made me realize how much I had to learn. So much, in fact, that I was let go after about 3 months! But I sure learned a lot and sorely miss the old school of country music. ------------------
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