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Topic: shobuds Who plays them?? Are they extinct?
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 May 2005 05:50 AM
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Guys, this is not a disagreement between Ricky and myself, but rather and discussion showing the vast differences between the many Sho-Buds and their construction over the years. Ricky also makes good points in the great sound of the two piece piviot mechanism as opposed to the later three piece. To me, they both are great, one has advantages over the other, and visa versa. Both are Sho-Buds, both can be very wonderful if maintained and in good condition. Ricky has his favorite Sho-Bud models, I have mine, I respect his ideas, hope he understands mine with respect, and suspect he does as we are very good friends.
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Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 25 May 2005 09:40 AM
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Ricky has his favorite Sho-Bud models, I have mine, I respect his ideas, hope he understands mine with respect, and suspect he does as we are very good friends.
..and I absolutely Respect and Understand you and your ideas/opinions Bobbe; as you are certainly a Mentor of mine my friend.
One thing Bobbe and I HIGHLY Agree on is: Whatever Sho-bud you have or Get or Get worked on> keep it an Original Sho-bud with the parts and/or someone that knows the correct parts to have that particular machine work like it does/did in its original Form> That is very very important.
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Richard Tipple
Member From: Ohio, USA
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posted 25 May 2005 09:44 AM
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I say we have a Bud-Off here. I will hold the titles to the two Buds & the winner takes all 
Gentlemen,,,,,start your Buds!!
Darn,I never used to be this way till I started watching my man (8) Earnhart, while playing steel in front of the TV,,,,,,,,
Go Jr!!!!! |
tbhenry
Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 25 May 2005 10:07 AM
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Bobbe,I am glad that you sold 7 sho buds last week. People are still buying and selling them. My point is that you rarely see one on the stage at steel guitar shows. For years Lloyud Green played a JCH and then he started back to play his original LDG, except as far as I understand it is not original but has been retrofitted. Correct me if I am wrong. To restate my point, all I see these days are rains, emmons zumsteel carter msa gfi on stage, but alas no shobuds. Does this imply that newer guitars are as good as sho bud or bettter.? Are shobuds being bouht by pro players to play, or as a collectors item to be put in a museum or on show? Personally I love the shobud sound, but now own a carter and an MSA. |
Fred Jack
Member From: Bay City Texas
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posted 25 May 2005 10:55 AM
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Ken Byng
Member From: Southampton, England
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posted 25 May 2005 11:09 AM
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Gotta go with Bobbe on this one. My '74/5 Pro 111 alloy necks is as good a sound as it gets for my personal taste. Even worse for some who think it is sacrelige to replace the pickups - it has George L's on it. Ricky - I bumped into Bill Kirtchen a couple of weeks ago over here in the UK. He speaks very highly of you. He's a sweet guy. |
Larry Robbins
Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA
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posted 25 May 2005 01:26 PM
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Hmmmm...I have a 73 Pro II AND a 79/80 PROIII ...one lucky guy and one happy camper thanks to the advice of Bobbe and Ricky..you guys are the best!------------------
SHO~BUDS, Steelkings,
Fender guitars,
Hilton pedals, Preston
covers, and Taylor(Tut, that is)Resos. Still Country after all these years....
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Wayne Morgan
Member From: Rutledge, TN, USA
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posted 25 May 2005 06:59 PM
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"your not even talking about a Real Sho-bud. The real Sho-bud Died in 1977-78 and anything after that; shouldn't have the name Sho-bud on it..." BULL !!! But I still like you Ricky !! Wayne
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Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 25 May 2005 07:25 PM
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Your Right Wayne; that was a bit of a stretch on my part of my mouth runnith over; and I still like you anyway too> but I still stand by my explanations of the Real Sho-bud sound; and the Sho-buds made after that are just fine in their own way/voice and should be honored to have the name Sho-bud on it.
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Ken; yes Bill Kirchen is one of the sweetest guys you can meet and I was honored to play my Big Body "The Pro-II" on his CD from Cracker Barrel.
tbhenry; I think what ever steel guitar expresses what the player hears in his head; both tone wise and mechanically, is the best Steel guitar for them. I don't think it's whether one is better than the other; I think it's a matter of ease. I can only speak for myself; but I had a Perfect mechanically and pretty dang good sounding Fulawka(modern day pedal steel) and the advances of mechanics these days enabled me to have as many changes and everyone of them perfectly in tune all the time and took NO effort at all to play the guitar and get a pretty good sound. BUT; that's the difference between someone like myself and most of the modern day pedal steel guitarist, is I don't mind tweeking on the steel and working the thing to get everything out of it to play consistant, and that's what It takes to play older mechanics(and why it was easy to sell it and put the sound I WANT to hear back in my head). Folks these days; want a perfectly mechanical steel guitar that will be "User friendly" trouble free and as many changes possible on it; and that's what modern day advancements get you; and the sound is competitive; but "Redundant". That is what happened to recordings these days; as compared to days of yesteryear; is bands used their own players that expressed their own heart and soul; and those players choose a steel that did that. I don't think players these days particularly seek that deep in their emotion; to choose a steel that captures their individualality; as they are only wanting to capture ease and conformaty. I don't blame them one bit. But I choose to not fake my emotions out anymore and will Always play what really really speaks to me; even if it takes all the changes out from underneath and I have to constantly keep it up mechanically> I enjoy it and love it and find it more rewarding that way; than to just ease on by with a effortless redundancy.
Sorry I went off on me Soap-box of my opionions again; but I challenge every modern day player; to always look deep down in your soul and what captured your inspiration to play the instrument in the first place; and display that through the instrument that will display your true emotion in Song.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 25 May 2005 at 07:29 PM.] |
Ernest Cawby
Member From: Lake City, Florida, USA
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posted 25 May 2005 08:52 PM
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bouight my bud new in 1973,it is a D10 The Professional, it has not been repaired in all these years and I have been the only one to adjust it, and that has presented no problem.
It has 8 and three and does all I need. Just put TT pickups on it and love the sound, the ones I replaced sounded just as well, I just wanted to try the TT's, The people that bought the old ones can attest to the fact they still sound as good as ever, they bought with a money back deal.t the BUD STAYS,STAYS STAYS. My daughter says it will never leave the family. I met Nan at the American guitar studio where we both took lessons and she says it sounds great and will never leave our family, I guess it is a family member.
Thats good enough for me.
Jennings may repent one day and buy a good guitar.ernie hi Farris
PS at Atlanta Don Lynch played a bud, I played a Bud, and ther were 2 more as I recall. Chuck Haney with Sun Country plays one,
Chet Gibson with Mo Bandy plays one, Lonnie Portwood plays one, Corky Owens was that you playing one with Gene Watson in Gainsville Fl. at the fair. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 25 May 2005 08:52 PM
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tbHenery, Lloyd Green's Sho-Bud is not a retro-fitted or even a restored guitar. It is very original. He has had several different pickups on it over time, but that's about it.
Lloyd Green is a very neat person and keeps everything he owns immaculate, his clothes, cars, house, and all musical equipment is always in perfect original condition.
His old Sho-Bud is unbelievable for the amount of work that it has done, and for it's age. Lloyd's Sho-Bud is a beautiful, totally original steel guitar, and he still knows what to do with it, Bobbe |
George Redmon
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posted 25 May 2005 09:01 PM
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boy, i must be missing something here...i have to go along with Bob Carlucci on this one..as much as i hate to. I love my old Sho Bud, for sound it's great..but as bad as i play, i just could not keep this bear in tune. And i have talked to many, who have played Buds, who had the same problems. I to had this steel redone..made matters worse. It sits and collects dust... Here is an old picture of the Sho~Bud Pro...it's a guitar i love to hate! 
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Whitney Single 12 8FL & 5 KN,keyless, dual changers Extended C6th, Webb Amp, Line6 PodXT, Goodrich Curly Chalker Volume Pedal, Match Bro, BJS Bar..I was keyless....when keyless wasn't cool....
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George Redmon
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posted 25 May 2005 09:20 PM
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OOP's...sorry about the picture being so messed up!...it was an early 70's Professional i meant to mention that..someone in Nashville rebuilt this steel...not sure who it was....it was just too long ago------------------
Whitney Single 12 8FL & 5 KN,keyless, dual changers Extended C6th, Webb Amp, Line6 PodXT, Goodrich Curly Chalker Volume Pedal, Match Bro, BJS Bar..I was keyless....when keyless wasn't cool....
[This message was edited by George Redmon on 25 May 2005 at 09:24 PM.] [This message was edited by George Redmon on 26 May 2005 at 07:20 PM.]
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Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 25 May 2005 10:49 PM
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George sounds like your Professional was never properly set up and also not properly set up when it was re-done; and I'm sorry to say that all the guys you talk to that has the same complaint; that their Sho-bud was not properly set up either. Sorry that has to happen and give the Sho-bud Pedal Steel guitar a bad mechanical name and the spreading of that name.
I'm here to spread the word that WHEN properly set up(and if you do a search for my name in this section; you will read Hundreds of mechanical set up Has to's on the Sho-bud)The Sho-bud can play in tune dead solid perfect night after night.Ricky |
Leslie Ehrlich
Member From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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posted 25 May 2005 11:20 PM
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When I decided to buy a PSG I knew what brand I wanted. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 26 May 2005 05:39 AM
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What Ricky said, I double it. |
George Redmon
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posted 26 May 2005 08:58 PM
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as Scotty would say...."GeeWhiz"! i didn't mean to ruffle any feathers in "Budland"! Mr Davis i find your statement concerning the ability of Sho Bud to properly set their guitars up, very disingenuous. May i direct your attention to Mr Carlucci's post above under.."Pedal Steels You DISLIKED" count the Buds!..These sir..are replys in that post, by the "Most Important Steel Guitar Players On Earth"..not the small group of professional players, but the large dedicated group of "Hard Working Local Musicians". Which support the steel guitar industry, buy the CD's, attend the steel shows, and buy everything from steel guitars, to seats, to picks. Too often we forget who the "Most Important" musicians are, and just how valuable "Their" opinion's are. I will not speak for others. But what i have read, most players find {IMHO}, that the Classic steels, are high maintenance, something most players find annoying. I read in one post, where a fellow had his Sho Bud, actually fall apart on him on stage! i will repeat..."I LOVE MY BUD"!...i also HATE IT! If it's any constallation to you sir..i also drive a Ford i don't like. To answer MR henry's question..YES.. Sho Buds are extinct!
I believe the Forum, is a place to voice, different views on a subject. To hear all views on an issue. I also doubt true sho bud devotee's such as yourself and Mr Seymour and many many others will be influenced because some players have different views and different experience's with their Sho Buds. I consider yourself, and Mr Seymour, great players, and steel tech's. However, not a final authority, when it comes to personal likes and dislikes in something so personal as "My Steel Guitar". Perhaps you are correct Mr Davis...all of the Sho Bud owners who were less then pleased with their experience's with this Classic Guitar, were not doing something correct, or failed to do something before they played it..or should have been following your examples of how to keep something chugging along...personally, i find it distracting, i have my hands full just trying to play this thing,,more less having to do constant maintenance. The terms.."Rattletrap" "Pig To Keep In Tune" "Noisey Under The Hood".."I won't Discuss This One"....are not my terms..but are terms used by people who shelled out the money!...i am truly sorry Mr Davis..but as bad a steel player as i am...i will not if asked recommend a Sho Bud to ANY one starting out playing steel guitar!...and i don't care if Sho Bud set it up wrong or not!
Now what is that term i am searching for?...oh yeah...."User Friendly"!------------------
Whitney Single 12 8FL & 5 KN,keyless, dual changers Extended C6th, Webb Amp, Line6 PodXT, Goodrich Curly Chalker Volume Pedal, Match Bro, BJS Bar..I was keyless....when keyless wasn't cool....
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Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 26 May 2005 09:46 PM
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George; your points are WELL taken my friend; and some great points at that.
If a newbe asks me to recommend a pedal steel guitar; I too have a hard time sending them back to yesteryear. It is unfortunate that even brand new steel guitars from yesteryear, were never set up proper and it's also unfortunate, that still happens these days.
It is important to have a hassel free guitar; but I believe it's equally important to know how it works and should work, to enable oneself to fix whatever may be around the next corner; as that is still true from newly made modern pedal steel guitars, but not as much.
Your absolutey right George; I am far from a final Authority when it comes to someones personal likes and dislikes, but I am a motivator in helping others to be true to their likes and dislikes and make it work for them. You can't even pry an old Emmons Push-pull out of JayDee Maness' hands; that has worked for him for years and years and still does today. JayDee is motivated to his true passion of his personal likes and he will do whatever it takes to keep it that way> I like that; and that's all I really try to encourage. I too have cussed and cussed many Sho-bud's I've had here; but refused to let it whip me and I wanted to know WHY and what and how; so that I could display the true sound I have in MY head. I tossed that sound away many times; as it was just easier to have this or that, but I betrayed myself and was another modivation for me to find out and learn why and what and how.
I haven't read the postings under the "Pedal Steels you Disliked"; as I rarely follow any thread that starts with a negative title, as I already know it is pointless for me to read and add to; as it is doomed for negativity from the start, and there isn't anything I can say to add to it. But I'm sure there are many that don't like this and don't like that for as many reasons as someone does like this and does like that. It's impossible to compare the numbers of folks that like Sho-bud and folks that don't like Sho-bud; that's pointless to me as I certainly don't really care. But the folks that don't like the Sho-bud; as a comparitive statement to all Sho-buds, is something that I would like to motivate the learning of why and what. Ricky
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George Redmon
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posted 27 May 2005 08:37 AM
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Whitney Single 12 8FL & 5 KN,keyless, dual changers Extended C6th, Webb Amp, Line6 PodXT, Goodrich Curly Chalker Volume Pedal, Match Bro, BJS Bar..I was keyless....when keyless wasn't cool....
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W. C. Edgar
Member From: McPherson, Kansas, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 02:36 PM
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I play an 82 Pro2 and get a great tone. I've had everything except a Derby/Mullen/Franklin and wouldn't trade my Bud for any of em. Only other great sounding guitars I had was a D-10 JCH and one D-10 Zum WC www.wcedgar.com |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 04:35 PM
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I have never tried a modern guitar, so I probably don't know what I'm missn'! I own two 'buds, and wouldn't take nothin' for them. I tune up before the gig starts and don't worry about it, they stay in tune real good. Ricky Davis tweeked both guitars for me. My '69 "The Professional" was a rattle trap when I bought it as a project guitar, and Ricky slapped 3 knee levers on it. I couldn't be happier. These buds I have are the old rack and barrel rigs, and yes I have had them go out of adjustment. I have learned how to work on them and set them up, and time them, and I LOVE those old buds. But, that's me. I have never owned a guitar or steel guitar that didn't need a little setup once in a while, and I figure that just goes with the territory. I am a new player(2.5 years now!) and I chose the buds, and my previous 2 guitars, Marlens, so I could learn about the mechanics of this cool instrument, as well as how to play. I am NOT a pro musician, and my gigs are low profile. If my bud should fall apart, my audience would think it's just part of the act! HA! I LOVE the tone in my guitars, and I don't mind tweeking on them a little. I also play through a '71 twin reverb, and old JBL speakers. It's old stuff and could fail anytime. If I had a high profile super gig, I would think about using new stuff, but then again, probably not. Your mileage may vary. Ricky Davis, You Da Man!! |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 04:56 PM
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I just wanted to state that I am glad we have folks like Duane Marrs Co., Bobbe Seymore, Ricky Davis, and I'm sure others I have yet to meet, who are dedicated to preserving these fine instruments. It takes that kind of dedication to ensure the survival of this fine guitar. What would we bud players do without them??? I'm sure this is exactly true of other old name guitars out there, Emmons, ZB's, ect.[This message was edited by James Morehead on 27 May 2005 at 05:06 PM.] |
Brett Day
Member From: Greer, SC, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 05:03 PM
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I play a GFI, but I love Sho-Buds too. Sho-Buds are awesome steels and my favorite Sho-Bud steel is the Super Pro. I also like the LDG models and Pro IIs and Professionals. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10 |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 27 May 2005 07:40 PM
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I am now playing a "Super Pro II" (Old Hickory D-10 Model) on several jobs. Don't know if it can really be called a traditional Sho-Bud or not since only seven were ever built, and being so totally different from every other of this brand.
Sure is a great guitar, compared to any and everything else. And I've had a few guitars, Ha! Sho-Bud?
Think about it, they will far out last anyone living on earth at this period of time. We don't need to worry about Sho-Buds, they need to worry about us. The Sho-Buds will look around some day, and we'll all be gone! But they will have a new set of players playing them. Boy, if they could talk. |
Kenny Davis
Member From: Great State of Oklahoma
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posted 27 May 2005 07:47 PM
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I used to have a "real" Sho~Bud. Ricky Davis has it now. I only wanted him to give it one of his patented extreme makeovers...But I guess he decided to keep it! It falls into the "prime" years, so I figure I'll never see it again. He sent me a picture of it about a month ago...It was totally stripped...just laying there...I thought he said I'd have it back soon. Looking back, I now believe he might be holding it for ransom! That's got to be it - That's why he didn't mention my name when he was running down the Sho~Bud player roster!!!  |
Farris Currie
Member From: Ona, Florida, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 08:02 PM
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OUCH, THAT WAS A LOW BLOW, |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 08:23 PM
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Bobbe, There is something to this, about Shobuds looking around. Mine was looking around for someone who could play better than me! YOWWWEE!! |
Al Carmichael
Member From: Sylvan Lake, Michigan, USA
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posted 27 May 2005 10:22 PM
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Ricky and Bobbe--Oh man! My Bud is a cursed hex shaft pot metal version--Ricky says its like a Pro II undercarriage. So, I've been reading all the advice and comparisons, do's and don'ts, etc. So, what if take all those zinc pot metal parts out and replace them with high quality replacement parts made for this model? Am I going to be making improvements or ruining the sound of the guitar? Is my Bud going to sound any better or be any more reliable? Or is this like replacing the pickups or bridge on a vintage Tele''a "no-no"?" |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 28 May 2005 01:19 AM
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Yes Brother Davis; I think I'm going to keep this one> this will be the only Sho-bud I've actually stolen, so first offence shouldn't be too hard on me eh???
Al; I don't believe it would ruin the sound, but it will change the existing sound> maybe for the better or not; it depends on what you like to hear.
Duane has the exact replacement parts for what you want to do; but made out of aircraft aluminum. The reliable part will increase; as now you won't get/have a worn spot on the finger top that is pushed by the fulcrom piece; and you won't break any knee lever mounts and the pullers will grip better and so on.
Ricky |
Barry Blackwood
Member From: elk grove, CA
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posted 28 May 2005 07:25 AM
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Bobbe - I need to know more about this guitar of which you speaketh ..... (Super Pro II?) |
Lem Smith
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posted 28 May 2005 07:47 AM
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I noticed on CMT the other evening, when they played Faith Hill's new video of "Mississippi Girl", part of it appeared to be from a live concert setting, and the steel player looked to be playing a Sho~Bud. Didn't get a good enough look to see who he was, though.[This message was edited by Lem Smith on 28 May 2005 at 07:48 AM.] |
Kenny Davis
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posted 28 May 2005 09:34 AM
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Brother Ricky - I'm looking forward to seeing you and the Pro II soon! If you have any pics or a status, please send. As you have been, I've been very busy lately. In fact, last night was the first time I've checked the Forum since early in the week.You did see the smiley face, didn't you? |
Ricky Davis
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posted 28 May 2005 11:08 AM
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Yes Kenny; the smiley Face is well taken..ha....and yep; busier than I've ever been and again; sorry it's taking so long> I can insert the many many excuses here___________?? But you know the score.
All I have left is put the fingers in; string it up; and rod it and tweek, as everything else is done. But finding a stretch of time here is like trying to find Waldo..ha...I'm on my way out the door to a session and 2 gigs> more later.
Ricky |
Ben Rubright
Member From: Port Charlotte, Florida, USA
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posted 28 May 2005 03:07 PM
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Below is a link showing at least one Sho-Bud at the Dallas Jamboree. Russ sure did it proud. I guess awesome is the word.
http://www.gr8ideas.net/RussShoBud.jpg |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 28 May 2005 03:40 PM
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Barry Blackwood. I have done many write ups on the "Super Pro II" and several of them on this forum, complete with pictures. It is the Sho-Bud with the "Fins" milled into the endcastings and the roller at the base end of every finger cam.
I'll be glad to post it all again, but I'm afraid some guys would gripe about seeing it again. Call me if you wish and I'll be glad to talk with you about it. Extremely interesting and great guitar.
Your buddy,
Bobbe, 615 822 5555 (next Tuesday on) |
Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 28 May 2005 04:02 PM
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Also I'd like to hear of the number of solid gold Industry Steel Guitar Hits that were played on Sho~Buds without nut rollers.Probably all of Buddy's Emmons and Charleton's early 60s stuff to start with. I'd say they're as "Sho~Bud" as the later "different design twice a year" "real" Sho~Buds.. Maybe even moreso.. Like I said, of all the Sho~Buds I've seen, not more than 2 of them were the same mechanically, and the ones that were were ProIIIs. Even they came with small or large pedals, wood or aluminum necks.. Lots of questions for the "purist"... I'm sure enjoying my '69-'70 Professional Marrs over my PIII in every respect. Even a few thousand gigs ago when it was "new". EJL |
Billy Carr
Member From: Seminary, Mississippi USA
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posted 29 May 2005 01:47 AM
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Sho-Bud guitars have outlasted several brands over the years. 20 years from now I wonder how many brands will still be on the market like Sho-Bud has. Same way with the Emmons guitars. Used to be you could find a player with the"Sho-Bud" sound or "The Emmons" sound. Nowadays, unless your looking at the guitar itself while it's being played it's usually hard to tell what kind of guitar your hearing. Many of the true steel guitar sounds from different steels are buried in effects. Don't anyone take it the wrong way about using effects to get a better tone or sound. I'm just saying that a guitars original sound (amp & guitar w/o effects) changes when effects are added. If I want the old "Sho-Bud" sound then I usually just plug one into an amp and play it. What I would like to see is for someone to build guitars that are based on the beautiful cabinets with the designs similiar to the old Sho-Buds but have the up to date undercarriages. |
Neil Lang
Member From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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posted 29 May 2005 06:36 PM
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Sho-Bud Rules!! (FIRST Emmons inspired Steel)!!Neil |
Bob Carlucci
Member From: Candor, New York, USA
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posted 30 May 2005 04:48 AM
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First part of this post has been edited,because I am a quick tempered "hothead" and sometimes think everyone in the world hates me.. persecution complex!
Just for the record, I am NOT a negative BUD hater.. I LOVE them.. they just don't work for everyone.
Many of us have had problems keeping them in tune.. Not everyone of course, but many of us. The forumite that bought my MSA and LOVES it told me over the phone, "I've never met a BUD I could keep in tune"... If this were an uncommon problem, it would not even be dicussed much on this forum.. I've seen too many posts, and have had too much personal experience with Buds to Know that indeed a certain percentage of Sho Bud steels DO have tuning stability issues. Not all... but some. I keep seeing guys defending all BUDS citing player error, improper adjustment, etc, etc, but I don't buy it.. SOME BUDS have trouble keeping tune.... Does that make them bad??
Certainly not.. can they be fixed? of course.. For some of us that love Sho Buds for the look, sound, and playability, the tuning issues do outweigh the desirable traits.
This was the gist of my thread about what steels players disliked.
Not every steel works for every player. My thread was NOT designed to be a negative rant fest, and it did not turn out that way. My threads are designed to stimulate debate.
THAT is my intention here, and if some folks read it as being negative, I will apologize and say again that it was not my intention.
Boy I really seem to apologize a lot around here!!..
For a nice guy I sure do make a lot of enemies don't I?? ... bob[This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 03 June 2005 at 04:18 AM.] |
Neil Lang
Member From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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posted 30 May 2005 07:26 AM
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Hey Guys,This Forum is a GREAT place to BS & get REAL! I LOVE Sho-Buds & play & Collect them. Have played and owned ALL types makes & models and colors of them! I don't pretend to be an "expert" on them but here is what I have found.
(Most), of my rack & barrel guitars DO have tuning stability issues. I played a fingertip model for years & found it to be much more reliable to stay in tune, (minor issues on occation)! I have found the later models (narrow pedal, & stub keyhead) to be VERY reliable, for ME! I LOVE'EM ALL however, I use the later model Super Pro and Pro II I have, out on the jobs we play!
The first one I owned was a "permanent" model but was young and foolish (and poor)and sold the guitar about two years later, to buy the fingertip model. I have a HUGE love of ALL steel guitars but just don't have all the Sho-Buds I want yet. Neil | |
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