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Topic: Gretsch Sho-Bud acquisition year?
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Eric Stumpf
Member From: Newbury, NH 03255
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posted 01 July 2005 05:19 AM
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Does anybody know the year when Gretsch bought Sho-Bud? Pre or post Baldwin era? |
Carl Williams
Member From: Oklahoma
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posted 01 July 2005 06:05 AM
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Eric, according to the Sho-Bud unofficial website, "the Jackson family sold the Sho-Bud company to Gretsch in 1979". The way I'm reading this same website, it appears that Baldwin became involved with Sho-Bud in 1967 +/-. Hope this helps---Carl[This message was edited by Carl Williams on 01 July 2005 at 06:09 AM.] |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 01 July 2005 06:20 AM
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According to the Sho-Bud field guide on the Sho-Bud unofficial web site, The Baldwin crossover was introduced in 1967, and in 1970 the Sho-Bud Professional was introduced. So between those times must have been the Baldwin years?Gretsch bought Sho-Bud in 1979, but may have been distributing Sho-Buds before that. Mavericks, Pros I, II and III, the LDG and the Superpro all seem to have contued being made under Gretsch for a few years and were all in the 1981 Gretsch catalog. The Superpro II was the only new Gretsch model Sho-Bud, but only a few prototypes were made, around 1983-4. Maybe someone from the inside can give a better idea of what was going on where in those years. |
Joe Finley
Member From: Ozark Arkansas USA
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posted 01 July 2005 08:20 AM
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Hello Eric,
I worked for Shobud in Conway Ar in 1980.
What is confusing is that Baldwin owned Gretch during some of the times also. It was not until the middle late 80's that Fred Gretch Junior had shobud back again as Gretch. These companies change around all the time. During the 70's Gretch was owned by Baldwin. Now Baldwin is owned by Gibson.
See what I mean? The guitars listed is correct. The last Super listed was developed by Gene Haugh and Yasu Kamia. It was built off of the concept of the Universal with the frame down the middle. It was a great guitar but Baldwin was not interested. I cant remeber if it was a Super Pro II or III or just a Pro III. For some reason the III sticks in my mind. |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 01 July 2005 08:29 AM
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I bought a Super Pro in 1982 and it came with a Gretch Nashville Pro Amplifier in a promotional package. I always thought that my guitar was a 1982, but, according to the above info it must have been a 1981, which would have been the last Super Pro model.------------------
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David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 01 July 2005 03:53 PM
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Gene my impression from the above dates is that they were making the Superpro and other Sho-Bud models for Gretsch up until 1983. There would have been enough parts around to keep making the old models for awhile, and some of the old Sho-Bud people just kept on making them for Gretsch for a few years I think. They all still were labelled as Sho-Buds I think, at least up until the 1983 Superpro II. I don't know how it was labelled. It's all kind of confusing in those years. The field guide just mentions when each model was introduced, and doesn't go into when each model stopped being made. [This message was edited by David Doggett on 01 July 2005 at 03:56 PM.] |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 04 July 2005 08:05 PM
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This question can not be answered simply, because it is not specific enough.
Which Sho-Bud? There were at least four Sho-Bud companies at different periods of time. Which one sold to which company, which Baldwin co. and most of all, which Grestch co.?? And by whom? What time frame? The way this question is asked, it could have at least six different and correct answers.
Lets just call this a "Trick Question!"
It most definately has no simple answer.
I love it!
(actually, Sho-Bud is really still owned by Freddy Grestch Jr.)
Sho-Bud is for sale today, and the price is , $250.000.00. Name, tools, parts, wood, cases, and whatever it takes to build them, I'm sure some employees would like to transplant and go in with the deal. Bobbe[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 04 July 2005 at 08:07 PM.] [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 04 July 2005 at 08:08 PM.] [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 04 July 2005 at 08:10 PM.] [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 04 July 2005 at 08:15 PM.] |
Dustin Rigsby
Member From: Columbus, Ohio
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posted 05 July 2005 11:09 AM
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Bobbe,
YOU should buy Sho-Bud and build and sell them. There sure seems to be a market for the Sho-Bud guitar. I would but I'm to poor and inexperienced. Even a dummy like me can see the marketing potential.------------------
D.S. Rigsby
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Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 06 July 2005 08:51 AM
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Dustin-I agree. I wish I was 20 years younger. Even I can see the possibilities.
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My Website..... www.cmedic.net/~almarcus/ |
Larry Robbins
Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA
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posted 06 July 2005 01:28 PM
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Bobbe,
if you do put me down for one!!
.....whats one more...------------------
SHO~BUDS, Steelkings,
Fender guitars,
Hilton pedals, Preston
covers, and Taylor(Tut, that is)Resos. Still Country after all these years....
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Billy Carr
Member From: Seminary, Mississippi USA
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posted 08 July 2005 07:24 PM
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Anybody remember the little brochure or booklet that Sho-Bud put out in the late 70's(?). It had two D-10's on the cover. A black one and a red one. Beautiful guitars for the time with the inlay(checks) on the necks and front aprons. I think one may have been a Pro II or III and the other one could've been a Super Pro. I also used to listen to the "Sho-Bud Showcase" on late Saturday nights. Anybody remember who hosted? Wish I could get some copies of some those shows. What a time! |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 08 July 2005 09:21 PM
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Jack Boles was the host. I did one of these great shows as a guest and loved the way Jack and the WSM crew treated me.
A great era, behind us? Bobbe |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 08 July 2005 09:23 PM
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The industry is still wonderful, just totally different, remember,we have this wonderful forum today. Bobbe[This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 08 July 2005 at 09:25 PM.] |
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