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Topic: 6th string lower split
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Gary Arnold
Member From: Holt, Florida, USA
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posted 03 October 2005 08:41 PM
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Could I get some examples of using this knee lever,the 6th string lower split(RKL)for me.
Thanks guys..................gary |
Jerry Roller
Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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posted 03 October 2005 09:11 PM
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Gary, if I understand correctly you are asking about using a split by lowering the 6th string a whole tone and raising it a half tone at the same time. One of the best examples of a very nice use of this split is Tom Brumley on "I Sang Dixie". It gives you a very nice 7th chord with A and B pedals pressed along with the 6th string lowered a whole tone. You have a minor with just the B pedal and the 6th string lowered a whole tone but I don't use that because there are several better places to get te minor chords.
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Terry Sneed
Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 04 October 2005 03:52 PM
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I very seldom use those two changes together. I usually just lower the 6th, release it, and then pedal my B in, then release it. Kinda make it one long lick.Jerry, what night will you be playin at Ronnie's? I'm hopin to make it one night. Terry ------------------
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Dean Parks
Member From: Sherman Oaks, California, USA
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posted 04 October 2005 04:09 PM
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At fret 3, for a C7 lick, with 6 already lowered and held: str 8, add str 6 (lowered already), add B pedal, add str 5 and squeeze in the A pedal. Or let 5 return to a no-pedal "9th". Or, use str 8, 7, 6 lowered & with B pedal, str 5 ... a minor 9th chord with close voicing, or top part of a 13th chord, with or or without A pedal.[This message was edited by Dean Parks on 04 October 2005 at 04:14 PM.] |
Clyde Lane
Member From: Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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posted 04 October 2005 04:28 PM
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Gary the 6th string whole tone lower with the Eb lever gives you the 5 chord at the one position on strings 865,654 and 543. Try this, lower 6 a full tone and 4 a half tone. Play strings 4,5 and 6. As they are ringing press B pedal then release the 6th string knee lever. Then hit string 1 and then 3,4 and 5 no pedals. Nice resolve from a five to a one chord. Clyde Lane |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 04 October 2005 10:27 PM
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Tell me I'm correct, because; I hate to be wrong. This split cannot be accomplished on a P/P Emmons Guitar! (?) Only on an All-Pull system.  ------------------
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Jerry Roller
Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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posted 04 October 2005 11:50 PM
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Terry, Friday night. Be sure and come speak to me if you are there.
Jerry |
Rainer Hackstaette
Member From: Bohmte, Germany
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posted 04 October 2005 11:58 PM
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John, yes you can put a split on an Emmons push-pull, but it's not quite as easy to do as on an all-pull. Here is how to do it and how to use it.Rainer ------------------
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Paul King
Member From: Gainesville, Texas, USA
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posted 05 October 2005 04:32 AM
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I have an Emmons LeGrande III but it doesnot have the split on the 6th string. I miss lowering the 6th string a half tone. Along with the B pedal it made a nice chord. How hard would it be to put one my guitar? |
Tony Rankin
Member From: Miamisburg, OH USA
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posted 05 October 2005 06:49 AM
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Paul,It's very easily done on your guitar without adding any parts. This works on guitars that have the Allen screws on the end of the neck. Here's how. INSTRUCTIONS FOR SPLIT TUNING Split tuning is the ability to tune the note that you get from a string that is both raised and lowered at the same time. If your string has not already been adjusted for split tuning, you will need to add about 10% more travel into your lowering pull rod and then perform the following steps: STEP ONE: Tune string open with the machine-head tuning peg. STEP TWO: Depress raise pedal only and tune raise with the hex nylon nut. STEP THREE: Release the raise pedal and with the lowering pedal depressed, tune the lower with the hex nylon nut. STEP FOUR: Depress the raise and lowering pedals at the same time. This gives your split note. You will notice that the note is a little sharp. While depressing both pedals, adjust the lowering nylon hex nut clockwise (in) until you obtain the proper pitch. STEP FIVE: Depress the lowering pedal only and notice that this note is a little flat. Turn the Allen screw on the end of the neck (behind the changer) clockwise (in) until you obtain the proper pitch. STEP SIX: Repeat all steps to ensure the string is in tune. QUICK TOUCH-UP TUNING FOR SPLIT TUNING REPEAT STEPS FOUR AND FIVE Hope this helps. Tony Rankin www.daytonambassadorsquartet.com
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Terry Sneed
Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 05 October 2005 11:03 AM
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Okie dokie Jerry. If we're able to come it'll probly be on Friday night. Hope to see ya there.Terry ------------------
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Paul King
Member From: Gainesville, Texas, USA
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posted 06 October 2005 04:46 AM
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Tony, Thanks for the info. I will give it a whirl. |
Jerry Hayes
Member From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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posted 06 October 2005 07:32 AM
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Jerry R......I didn't think Tom Brumley had the G# to F# lower on his guitar. I know he has the 7th string F# to G# raise on pedal one along with raising his 10th string to C# and also on a knee lever along with raising the 1st string F# to G#....JH in Va.------------------
Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
Ron Sodos
Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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posted 06 October 2005 07:49 AM
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Get Terry Bethel's CD "If We Could". He is the master of the split pedals. He uses it alot and it will blow you away..... |
Don E. Curtis
Moderator From: St Louis, Missouri, USA
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posted 13 October 2005 02:53 PM
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I believe that John Hughey uses a sixth string split on the into to, "Look At Us"?
Don |
Tony Dingus
Member From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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posted 13 October 2005 08:10 PM
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Try this D7 phrase.5--5A/6A-/5A-/3A/3--
6--5B/6BL/5BL/3B--
Tony |
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