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Topic: Bud Isaacs Bigsby on Ebay? Bobbe, any info?
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 16 October 2005 07:29 PM
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Larry Bell, You also said it well, sorry, I just read your post. I agree.
Bobbe |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 17 October 2005 12:23 AM
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Ok, it's back on ebay again, this time with some additional pics and corrected information. |
Pee Wee Rogers
Member From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
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posted 17 October 2005 05:19 AM
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I was reading all these posts about the original "Slowly" guitar.
At the time Bud Issacs recorded "Slowly" he was working with "Little" Jimmy Dickens.
So we were playing a Corporate Show at the Opry House last night and I asked him what guitar Bud used on "Slowly".
Jimmy said that Bud Issacs was using a Gibson Electro-Harp (sp) at the time he recorded "Slowly" with Webb Pierce and is still using it in a club that he and his wife work out west.
He said you can tell them "It came from the horses' mouth". Pee Wee Rogers
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BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 17 October 2005 01:38 PM
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Yea right. Well I gotta' go watch the pigs fly. I hear they are having a real bad drought in Louisianna.
I'm going to Iraq for a little vacation. I need some peace and relaxation.
Jimmy Dickens : From the horses mouth?
Maybe a pony's mouth. [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 17 October 2005 at 01:40 PM.] |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 18 October 2005 01:00 AM
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Regarding Slowly, here's what Bud Isaacs himself said last year when Carl Dixon asked him about the tuning and guitar used on the song: "Hi Carl, Thanks for your e-mail. Geri is doing this e-mail for me, I will try to answer your questions the best I can. I recorded Slowly in 53? or 54?? Bigsby put the pedals on my steel for me. I used the same tuning on Slowly and all of my recordings as well. I recorded 2 others songs with Red Foley with my pedals "Blue Guitar" and "Walking In The Cold Cold Rain" Before I recorded Slowly with Webb. Hope this helps.Thanks for asking. God Bless you, Bud" |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 18 October 2005 01:07 AM
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Sorry, double post!![This message was edited by Jussi Huhtakangas on 18 October 2005 at 01:11 AM.] |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 18 October 2005 08:04 AM
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Maybe what Jimmy is saying is that Bud was using a Gibson Electroharp at the time he got pedals put on a Bigsby. From my recollections of Bud's story posted in the past, he didn't immediately start playing his Bigsby pedal steel exclusively. He was asked to play the Bigsby for that one "Slowly" session. Maybe only after "Slowly" became a hit many months later did he completely switch to the Bigsby. And maybe he still plays the Gibson occassionally. But there would seem to be no question he played the Bigsby on "Slowly." |
chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 18 October 2005 08:58 AM
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Hey Bobbe, is that the guitar that was converted to a D-10 before it was converted back to a D-8? |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 18 October 2005 10:54 AM
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I have the contriversy solved. Billy Robinson is right here right now, He was there when Slowly was recorded, It was most positivly the Bigsby. Chas., Yes, this was the one. Another 0f my immature endevors. However, my good friend Paul Warnick saved it. Thank goodness. Paul W. has done a lot for the Bigsby world. I love the work you did on the 10 string single you got from me. Wish I could see it "live". I also appreciate your love for the instrument. Bobbe [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 18 October 2005 at 11:01 AM.] |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 18 October 2005 11:14 AM
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Bud also recorded "More and More", "In the Jail House Now", "I Don't Care", I Ain't Never" and other Webb Perce songs with the D-10, wood neck, One pedal on the "E" neck, if my brilliant memory serves me at all.
Bud also did many classicly great instrumentals on his own and with Chet Atkins on this very Bigsby. Only one pedal and no knee levers on this E tuning for all these great hits and more!
Bud should be recognised as the greatest of the "GOLD" players of all times, for many reasons. |
Rick Collins
Member From: Claremont , CA USA
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posted 18 October 2005 11:24 AM
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Bobbe, was The Waltz You Saved For Me recorded by Bud Isaacs on that guitar also?Mr. Clean If you want to play it clean, you must play it on a Fender. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 18 October 2005 12:22 PM
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"Waltz You Saved For Me"?????? Absolutly it was. And listen to that tone! This guitars tone can really be heard on this waltz.
He also recorded "Hot Mockin' Bird" and "Missouri Waltz" on that guitar, as a matter of fact, I would bet everything he recorded in the 50's was on that guitar.
I worked the "Golden Nuggett" in Vegas in '69 and he had sold the guitar for almost nothing a few years before. He was playing a Fender 10 string single neck, I told him I missed the Bigsby tone, he agreed but said he wanted the two extra strings and Paul had just died so he knew he couldn't have the 10 string Bigsby that he really wanted.
I saw Bud in '79 backstage at the Grand Ole Opry and told him I had the Guitar that is now on E-bay and that it had his name under it, He said good, "give it to me!" I laughed and said NO! A very interesting story followed about this E-bay "guitar" that should enhance it's value to the new owner. It wasn't bud's, but would have been if he would have taken metal necks, it went to Ernie Ball instead, so the story goes. All this is in several stories that seem to have validity, but as we all know, time takes it's toll on memories. Rumors and history have ways of changing over time.
One thing is sure, this is a very interesting guitar, playable and going up in value. [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 18 October 2005 at 12:24 PM.] |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 18 October 2005 11:57 PM
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All the instrumentals Bud recorded in the 50's were done on the Bigsby. There's two brilliant cd's on Bronco Buster-label, each containing 20 tracks recorded for radio transcriptions when he was with Red Foley. Bud even sings on one track!!! They're both available on ebay at the moment.
The cd where you can hear Ernie Ball playing the guitar on ebay, is "Tommy Duncan-Texas Moon" on Bear Family-label. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 20 October 2005 01:49 PM
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Here is another picture of the "E-bay" Bigsby. Some of these great classic models never go out of style.
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Joe Alterio
Member From: Fishers, Indiana
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posted 20 October 2005 02:40 PM
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For those unfamiliar with eBay....If a guitar does not meet reserve, the highest listed price is NOT the highest bid placed. It is only the "next highest bid" under reserve. In this case, let's assume the seller had a reserve of $20,000, an opening bid of $10 and I put in a bid of $5,599. My bid will show as $10. Now, if the next person comes along and bids $20, it will show me as being the high bidder at $21. If someone else comes along and bids higher than my maximum of $5,599 they will then be listed at $5,600....UNLESS their high bid is OVER the reserve, at which point the bid will show as $20,000. So, the person who had the high bid of $5,604 could well have bid $75,000.....but if that is under the seller's reserve, you'll only see his amount as beating the "next highest bid" under reserve. No way of telling what the true market price of this guitar is/was due to the reserve the seller put on it. Joe |
Gary Spaeth
Member From: Wisconsin, USA
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posted 21 October 2005 07:33 AM
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that's not true. if you hit the reseve it will go to that. wow bobbe i got to get the number of you modelling agency. what do they charge per day for a bigsby model?[This message was edited by Gary Spaeth on 21 October 2005 at 07:44 AM.]
sorry joe. i'm awake now.[This message was edited by Gary Spaeth on 27 October 2005 at 06:05 AM.] |
Joe Alterio
Member From: Fishers, Indiana
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posted 21 October 2005 08:20 AM
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That's what I said, Gary. See the last sentence of the second paragraph.Joe |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 21 October 2005 08:59 AM
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Bobbe,You need a new camera. I can't see and steel guitars in the picture? |
David Doggett
Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 21 October 2005 09:01 AM
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Let me try to clarify what Joe is saying. First of all lets separate the terminology. If you let the Ebay calculator do your bidding, then you give it a "maximum" not to exceed. This is a potential bid, not an actual bid. The Ebay computer will automatically enter bids for you by marginally increasing the previous bid, say by $1, until your maximum is reached. Your maximum is not really a bid, unless it is reached. So if the reserve is $20,000, and the opening bid is $10, then you enter a maximum of $5,599 (that is not a bid yet), your first computer generated bid is $11. Other people may place maximums. The computer will always instantaneously place bids until all maximums are exceeded except the next to last one. Then on behalf of the highest maximum, it will place a bid one dollar above the next highest maximum. You will never know what the highest maximum was. The reserve is irrelevant to this process, and you will never know what it was. The only effect the reserve has is to prevent a sale, if the highest bid (not highest maximum) does not meet the reserve. If the highest bid (that is, one dollar above the next highest maximum) does not meet the reserve, there will be no sale, regardless of whether the highest maximum was below or above the reserve. |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 21 October 2005 09:39 AM
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Classic models! I'll take the blonde on the right!  |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 21 October 2005 10:25 AM
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Nice legs... on that Mullen!!! |
Herb Steiner
Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX
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posted 21 October 2005 12:27 PM
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Hey, great to see Jeannie again!  She was a cool gal, I always thought.------------------
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Tom Quinn
Member From: Sacramento
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posted 21 October 2005 01:06 PM
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One thing for sure in the vintage market, if Eric Clapton came onstage and played the solo to "Cocaine," or one of his other hits on a Bigsby steel guitar slide-style, the ebay one would triple in value overnight.Sad but true, collectables are valued to a large extent by who has played them recently. Case in point: a sunburst Les Paul Standard from 1959 fetched around 100 bucks in 1962. After the British rockers and Mike Bloomfield showed up with them, they went up to 400 dollars in 1965. They were a grand in 67, and currently fetch upwards of 300-thousand dollars... You can buy a 59 Fender Jaguar for $4,000. |
jeff reynolds
Member From: Jackson, Ms. & Greenville, Ms, USA
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posted 24 October 2005 03:54 PM
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I just got off the phone with Roy Lunn. Told him about his old bigsby and asked him some history on the guitar. Roy bought the Bigsby from Ken Woodfin approx 1958 or 1959 and sent it back to bigsby to have Ernie Ball's Name removed. Roy played this guitar 6 nights a week in Jackson Ms. at Club Catherine for several years. Ray told me that once upon a time Buddy Emmons came to the club and sat in with the band and wanted to buy the guitar then...Roy said " Buddy I thought you and Shot was building guitars now and calling them SHOBUD"
Roy said Buddy's reply to that was... "Yea, Shot Builds um and I Play um".Roy went on to say he sold the guitar to Herby Wallace and Herby Wallace sold it to Bobbie Seymor he thought. Im going to take this topic to Roy and also take him the Ebay stuff too and I think we're Both gona sit there and cry a while.... ------------------
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Mike Cass
Member From: Nashville,Tn. U.S.A.
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posted 26 October 2005 01:05 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....I may have to wallpaper that picture above; two of my favorite things in the world right there
one question though: perhaps I need to re-read the thread in its entirety,but how did Bud Isaccs name come to get stamped under there, last name mispelled and all?
too bad a punch set doesnt come with a spellchecker |
chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 26 October 2005 04:10 PM
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I did some work on, and have a couple of, not very good, photos of that guitar when it was a D-10, in fact, I have the 10-string headstocks and cut down necks. I don't recall seeing Bud's name stamped on it. Maybe my memory isn't so good anymore. They say it's the second thing to go.... |
Chris Lucker
Member From: Los Angeles, California USA
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posted 26 October 2005 04:46 PM
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Nice dog bone work, Chas. |
Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 26 October 2005 10:44 PM
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Chas, were those 10-string necks Bigsby parts or some "homemade thingy"? |
chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 27 October 2005 10:01 AM
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Jussi, they are Bigsby parts that have been sectioned between the end of the nut and the 1st fret. At some point, in the project cue, since I have aluminum welding skills, I'm going to return it to almost original state. Almost, including rollers on the nut. |
jeff reynolds
Member From: Jackson, Ms. & Greenville, Ms, USA
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posted 28 October 2005 09:13 AM
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For What Its Worth.... Roy says he doesnt recall Bud Isaccs Ever Owning His Old Bigsby. The Bigsby with Roys name on it was ownned by Ernie Ball. Ernie sold it to Ken Woodfen. Ken Sold it to Roy about 58 or 59. Roy Sold it To Herby Wallace we think in late 60's or early to mid 70's and from there Roy thinks Bobbie Seymour ended up with it.. I am assuming Bud is not with us any longer or he would be chimming in on this subject matter.------------------
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Fender Vibrosonic, Fender Quad Rev. , Twin Rev. , Deluxe Rev. ProFex II, www.theearthangels.net |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 28 October 2005 10:00 AM
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-------> naw, I never owned it, but I did get a picture of it once. |
Jeff Lampert
Member From: queens, new york city
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posted 28 October 2005 11:54 AM
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No way of telling what the true market price of this guitar is/was due to the reserve the seller put on it.
Of course since it didn't sell, then you can't say for sure what the market price is. However, it doesn't matter what the high bidder might have been willing to spend. All that is published is what it would have sold for had there been no reserve. For now, that is the best indicator of market value, unless it is listed again and is sold, or it gets sold privately and the price is known. ------------------
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Jussi Huhtakangas
Member From: Helsinki, Finland
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posted 01 November 2005 10:33 PM
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Well, it's back on ebay in the buy-it-now items, and with a reasonable "market price" I'd say. Get out yer' checkbooks!! |
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