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Don Discher
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From: Sault Ste Marie,Ontario,Canada

posted 15 January 2006 08:38 AM     profile     
I've been playing steel for a couple years now but i've never had to do any repairs and now I have a problem.Mine (Emmons leGrande SD10) has the LKL set to raise the E's to F.When I release the lever the top E (4th)string does not return to pitch.It doesn't feel like anything binding but not as much tension on this KL as the others.I've cleaned and lubed the changer but still not working.Any help would be appreciated without having to ship it out.The RKL which I have lowering the E's to Eb works fine.
Thanks for any help
Don D.
p.s. this guitar is on the forum for sale but only if it's working properly.
richard burton
Member

From: Britain

posted 15 January 2006 08:46 AM     profile     
Does the 4th string return to pitch when you press and release the C pedal?

If so, then the problem can be narrowed down to the knee lever mechanism/linkages.

Otherwise, it may be a broken string stuck in the changer.

Charlie McDonald
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From: Lubbock, Texas, USA

posted 16 January 2006 06:29 AM     profile     
quote:
Does the 4th string return to pitch when you press and release the C pedal?

Alternately, it could be hysteresis, where the non-singing string length, above the nut, retains tension, and the singing length thus returns flat.
Oiling the roller nut is the prescribed fix; but I'm not sure hysteresis can be cured.
Let us know.
Jack Stoner
Sysop

From: Inverness, Florida

posted 16 January 2006 06:47 AM     profile     
The "Hysterisis" happens when a string is lowered and treturns sharp. This is not the case with this one.

If it works OK with the "C" pedal then it's probably something mechanical in the Knee lever.

Jim Palenscar
Member

From: Oceanside, Calif, USA

posted 16 January 2006 07:17 AM     profile     
Make sure that there is some "slop" in the change itself. That is- there should be a little bit of time between the actual start of the knee lever movement and the actual time of the start of the string raising. If not - it could be that the string cannot get back to the unengaged position and needs a bit longer throw.
Don Discher
Member

From: Sault Ste Marie,Ontario,Canada

posted 16 January 2006 02:49 PM     profile     
Thanks for all the help guys,the main problem was the "C" pedal.Backed everything off,tuned open strings then tuned pedals and knee levers,cleaned and oiled and she's back to normal.
Big thanks to Al Brisco for his help and all others who replied.

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