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Topic: stripped bolt!!!!
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Dave Frye
Member From: Jamestown, CA 95327
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posted 16 January 2006 06:49 PM
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Oh my, i really got a problem! I have an allen bolt with the top of the bolt where the allen wrench goes, it is rounded out an i cant get it loose from the bell crank! I am sure some one else has had this prob, but how do you get it out? Help me out guys? Thanks Dave Frye |
Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 16 January 2006 07:18 PM
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If the head sticks out enough, you can grip the head with a small pair of vise grips, and work it out a little at a time. Sometimes an allen wrench will get rounded a little too. When mine do, I put it in a vise and cut off about 1/8" with a Dremel cut-off wheel and they are as good as new. ------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
[This message was edited by Darvin Willhoite on 16 January 2006 at 07:22 PM.]
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Papa Joe Pollick
Member From: Pontiac, Michigan, USA
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posted 16 January 2006 08:58 PM
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Dave,I just solved the same prob. on a different aera of my PSG.
First place paper towel or rags around the area,then give it a shot of penetrating oil.I use Cyclo Mate Break Away.Best I ever used.Let it soak over night or several hrs.While your waiting,keep tapping on part that the bolt is in..Then follow the above advice.It will be tough to drill it out,so try this first..good luck. PJ------------------
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Jerry Roller
Member From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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posted 16 January 2006 10:13 PM
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Dave, I would first follow Darvins advise and cut a fresh end on the allen wrench or use a brand new allen wrench. If that don't work I would clean out the hole where the allen wrench goes trying to remove all the oil in case there is any in it. I would then put a small amount of super glue or better yet J-B Weld in the hole and insert the long end of a new allen wrench into the socket hole and let it set up overnight and glue the allen wrench into the screw. You need to use the long end so you will be able to turn the allen wrench without it hitting the bellcrank. I think the super glue will work and I am almost certain the J-B Weld will do it. All you lose is the set screw and the allen wrench which you could cut off and save.[This message was edited by Jerry Roller on 17 January 2006 at 01:56 PM.] |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 17 January 2006 12:28 AM
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What if you heated it or maybe heated the collar it's in, with a small torch?? Usually a new or trimed down allen wrench will do the trick.My dad restores old Mack trucks.He uses a heating torch to loosen rusty bolts.For the really bad ones.He uses the cutting torch.Now that'll get her done.  |
Don Poland
Member From: Littlestown, PA.
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posted 17 January 2006 02:31 AM
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Get yourself a left handed drill bit slightly bigger than the recess for the allen wrench and drill the bolt out. Then replace it with a new bolt. Good as new  ------------------
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Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 17 January 2006 02:44 AM
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lots of creativity( experience ) here..also try this.. take the next size larger ( metric even) allen wrench.. File or grind the edges just enough so that it fits into the messed up stripped head area..The new edges of the new allen wrench should be just barely coned . after oiling all night, slightly tap the NEW custom wrench snug into the stripped head.This may be enough to get that baby out..you don't want any oil inside the stripped head part though... whatever works.. It sure looks like you are not the only one to ever have a problem like this... I had a Star Head screw strip a week or two back..fortunatley I could drill it out ..but it sure was not a great event...[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 17 January 2006 at 02:47 AM.] |
Anders Brundell
Member From: Falun, Sweden
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posted 17 January 2006 03:45 AM
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Knock in a big enough torx wrench and screw the bolt out. Keep the downward pressure on the wrech all time so it doesn't loose grip.
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Anders Brundell
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Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 17 January 2006 06:09 AM
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PB Blaster is my dearest friend when it comes to corroded threads... That stuff works wonders. If it don't come apart after applying PB Blaster, then it's time for the oxyacetylene torch.[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 17 January 2006 at 06:10 AM.] |
Russ Little
Member From: Hosston,Louisiana, USA
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posted 17 January 2006 07:13 AM
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You mite also use a dremel cutoff wheel to
cut a slot in the screw if the head sticks out
enough. then use a common screw driver to remove it.
Lots of tricks out there , hope one of them
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Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 17 January 2006 08:53 AM
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"E-Z-Outs"Every good mechanic has 'em.  (They're made for this sort of thing.) |
Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 17 January 2006 10:04 AM
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Donnie's right. But I don't have any.I just have this one allen screw I need to get out.Forgive my ignorance. But what is the next metric size larger than a 5/64?. Think I'll try Tony's idea.I have a lot of metric allen wrenches laying around.......bb |
Larry Bell
Member From: Englewood, Florida
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posted 17 January 2006 10:40 AM
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5/64" = 0.078125"
0.078125" = 1.98mm2mm is just a HAIR (y'know one of those SMALL HAIRS) larger than 5/64, if my calculations are correct. A site with all kinds of conversions is here
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Bobby Boggs
Member From: Pendleton SC
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posted 17 January 2006 11:58 AM
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Thanks Larry.You do know your way around the net..........bb |
Papa Joe Pollick
Member From: Pontiac, Michigan, USA
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posted 17 January 2006 01:55 PM
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Dave,did you get it out yet?Let us know..OK?
PJ. |
Dave Frye
Member From: Jamestown, CA 95327
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posted 17 January 2006 06:14 PM
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YeeHaw guys, it,s out!!!!!!!! I had to take a small file and file a scre slot and shot it with WD40, waited all nite but i got it out today!!!!!! What a relief! Now i can put on that extra pull on my MSA! Thanks guys for all your ideas. Dave Frye |
Mickey Lawson
Member From: Cleveland, Tennessee, USA
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posted 17 January 2006 07:03 PM
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J-B Weld epoxy cement sets up like steel, always works great. Pretty sure it would have worked. |
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