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Tim Jones
Member From: Andover, KS, USA
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posted 08 February 2006 06:56 PM
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Question....I've noticed that possibly 99% of the pedal steel guitar community uses the E9 tuning. The other 1% being me. I tried to use it, but I found it complicated, and the high string right in the middle (the G# i believe)drove me nuts....So I opted for a E6 tuning. The other neck being a C6. Which works out better for me. I wonder if there are any other pedal steelers who use unorthodox non-pedal tunings for thier pedal steel instead of just the regular C6 and E9? Let's see how far THIS goes! Tim Jones )~Fender 1000 and NOTHING else~([This message was edited by Tim Jones on 08 February 2006 at 07:04 PM.] |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 08 February 2006 08:37 PM
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Sounds familiar. In early 1978 I wrote this:
Shortly afterwards I started playing 12-string E9th, which is now my copedent of choice.I've moved this topic to the "Pedal Steel" section of the Forum, where it belongs. ------------------
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Tim Jones
Member From: Andover, KS, USA
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posted 08 February 2006 08:49 PM
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it didn't show up. ^^^^ |
Tony Prior
Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 09 February 2006 02:38 AM
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ok, I'll play..I play the conventional tuning along with the other 99%.. but.. I don't view it as a 10 string tuning when I look at the fretboard.. ok..I may be nuts.. I view it as a 6 string tuning with two above and two below... Each one of us uses the 8th string E as the point of reference..no ? Uh.. yes.... so to me , 9 and 10 are underneath notes.. and the 2nd and 1st although not necessarily above they are ..as I see them..ADDS... a way to get from 1 to 4, 5 to 1, blah blah blah..ADDS... ok..it gets worse..
I look at the C6th as an E tuning (4th fret) with 4 below...to get to C.. I mean, the E9th is E referenced, the 6 string is E referenced... I aint' changing...I pretty much know the language in E..so I have adjusted my visual for that... I think I'm out there on an Island... ------------------
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Ray Minich
Member From: Limestone, New York, USA
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posted 09 February 2006 06:03 AM
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To me the E9th tuning is a marvel of evolution. With every new tidbit I learn, I understand more of the reasoning behind the architecture.
Fortunately I know very little of any other tuning. Sometimes, what you already know can inhibit the learning of something new, because you subconciously try to use current knowledge to interpret the new. (Like trying to use knowledge of Windows 3.1 to understand Windows 95. it didn't help, and, in fact, made things more confusing for many) |
Jim Bates
Member From: Alvin, Texas, USA
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posted 09 February 2006 07:12 AM
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I use the 'E 13th' tuning on my Emmons:
lo to hi (E B D E F# G# B C# E G#) with the standard pedal changes - B's to C#; G#'s to A; E to Eb, F and F# plus my own other pedals setups. Played the E 13th 8 string version on my non-pedal steel for many years and began the 10 string version on pedal guitar in 1969, so I know a little about it. I believe Buddy Emmons had a 12 string E 13th (same as mine with the added top two chromatic strings)on some of his recordings.Thanx,
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Ron Sodos
Member From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
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posted 09 February 2006 10:34 AM
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When I first started playing in 1977 I had come from being a professional guitar player in funk and jazz bands. The way E9th went from the 1 chord(no pedals) to the 4 chord (A&B pedals) and to the 5 chord (B pedal and knee lever) seemed so simple and seemed to emulate the guitar neck and made alot of sense. I fell into it very easy. The only wierd thing was the d# 2nd string which made sense after a short time. |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 09 February 2006 11:48 AM
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Beginners tend to avoid strings 1, 2, 7 and 9 of the E9th. Learning to play on the E major strings makes a lot of sense. After a while you want to stretch out a bit, and the other strings give you new options. |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 10 February 2006 11:00 PM
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b0b; That's a little how it is with the C-Diatonic that I have now compared to the usual C6. You can play a lot of the usual C6 style and the (B) & (F) thrown in the middle allows for some expansion, with the proper amount of cautions, of course! It's still keeping my interest going!------------------
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Dan Burnham
Member From: Martin, Tennessee, USA
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posted 11 February 2006 08:13 PM
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I play Zane Beck's Tuning. It is a E13th Tuning. |
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