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Topic: PF's Baritone Steel
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Tony Dingus
Member From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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posted 16 June 2006 02:23 PM
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What would the gauges be for the (E9?) baritone tuning? Tony[This message was edited by Tony Dingus on 17 June 2006 at 08:05 PM.] |
Tony Dingus
Member From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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posted 17 June 2006 08:05 PM
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Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 18 June 2006 08:09 AM
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What is the E9th baritone tuning? |
Mike Perlowin
Member From: Los Angeles CA
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posted 18 June 2006 11:48 AM
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I believe the baritone tuning is the same as the regtlar E9 tuning, only an octave lower than normal. (Somebody please correct me if I'm mistaken about this.)The E9/B6 U-12 provides many, but not all, of the same sounds. One of it's attrctions for me is the extended bass register, down to G#, two octaves below the 6th string. ------------------
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Tony Dingus
Member From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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posted 18 June 2006 07:22 PM
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B0b, PF used the baritone on Lee Ann Womack's Little Past Littlerock. It may not be E9, I'can't remember for sure, but I saw the triple neck Franklin that Paul used in the studio at one of the Knoxville shows back in the 90's. Mr. Franklin had it sitting on a table, you talk about a work of art, sweet.Mike, Jeff Newman told me the same thing you said. I don't know what strings are wound and unwound. Would C6 with a couple of E9 pedals get the same ideal?
Thanks for your replys. Tony[This message was edited by Tony Dingus on 18 June 2006 at 07:24 PM.] |
Brett Day
Member From: Greer, SC, USA
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posted 18 June 2006 07:42 PM
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According to the Franklin Steel website, it says that Paul tuned the pedal steel down an octave to make it have a baritone sound. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10 |
Tony Dingus
Member From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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posted 19 June 2006 05:05 AM
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Thanks Brett, that's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure. I've got a program on my Gensis 3 using the pitch shifter and other than a slight delay it works ok and that with the effect's mix 100%.Tony |
Erv Niehaus
Member From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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posted 19 June 2006 06:16 AM
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One of the necks on the Fender Stringmaster was set up for fatter strings. I had bass strings on the last four strings on that neck when I was non-pedaling most of the time. Works out quite well when the bass player fails to show up. Now with BIAB, he's always there.  |
Bobby Lee
Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 19 June 2006 10:04 AM
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They aren't listed on the franklin price list, but I bet if you called you could get a set from them. After all, they supply Paul.------------------
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chas smith
Member From: Encino, CA, USA
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posted 19 June 2006 11:24 AM
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quote:
What would the gauges be for the (E9?) baritone tuning?
Double the guage of the string for the 8vb. So the 3rd string, instead of .011, is now .022. |
Jerry Hayes
Member From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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posted 20 June 2006 08:00 AM
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I guess any string after the G# would have to be wound eh?.....JH in Va.------------------
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Roy Ayres
Member From: Starke, Florida, USA
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posted 20 June 2006 10:40 AM
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SOME CONVOLUTED LOGIC:A TENOR guitar is a 4-string guitar, and has been so named for years. They are usually tuned like the first four strings on a REGULAR guitar. A regular guitar has two additional strings, allowing one to play notes almost an octave below the lowest note on a tenor guitar. The regular guitar is, therefore, a BARATONE guitar. The next level down in pitch should be termed a "BASS" guitar -- but we already have bass guitars. Therefore a guitar tuned between a regular guitar and a bass guitar can not have a name -- because the names have all been used up
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except, of course, "ALTO" and "SUPRANO." So, the only solution is to go back and rename the TENOR guitar as an ALTO guitar, and rename the REGULAR guitar as a TENOR guitar. This leaves room between a regular guitar (now called a "TENOR" guitar) and a "BASS" guitar to add a "BARATONE" guitar. Following the same logic, the mandolin then becomes a "SUPRANO" guitar. . . . and things will then be in the right order -- like God intended them to be. Of course, all names will then be used up, so there can no longer be any BANJOS. ------------------
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