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Topic: PRO 1
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Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 29 July 2006 10:25 AM
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I have just (this morning) bought a Sho-Bud PRO 1 in absolutely imaculate condition. I'm not going to tell you what I paid for it because you wouldn't believe me. Any way I have the original warranty certificate with it (Which was never filled in)Model 6139, Serial #9324. This guitar is in absolute original condition 3 pedals 1 knee lever and the tone is amazing. Can anyone tell me how old this guitar is. I have always loved Sho-Buds and to get this one is a dream come true. Oh! so what it cost me $400. I dont know how to send pics or i'de let you see it. Cheers Dave. |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 29 July 2006 10:35 AM
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The Sho Bud PRO1 didn't came with 1knee lever did it?Ron |
Jim Eaton
Member From: Santa Susana, Ca
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posted 29 July 2006 10:50 AM
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I had a #6139 in 1973,it was rack and barrel.
Listed in the Sho-Bud price list as ."Single 10"3/1. The pedals were more in the middle of the guitar as I remember.
JE:-)> |
Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 29 July 2006 10:53 AM
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OK Ron what is it, as I said Model #6139, is that not a Pro 1? This is the reason I entered this thread, to try to find out more about the guitar itself. If you can help I would very much apreciate it. Dave. |
Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 29 July 2006 11:01 AM
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The pedals on mine are to the Left of the guitar, and I have just had a look under the body and the signature is either JR or JK on the inspection label, also it has the original wide pedals.
Dave. |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 29 July 2006 11:27 AM
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I like to know to Dave.I have no knowledge when it comes to the PRO1.Ron |
Sonny Priddy
Member From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA
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posted 29 July 2006 01:25 PM
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Ask Bobbie Seymour. SONNY.------------------
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Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 29 July 2006 01:39 PM
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Thank you Sonny
I should have thought of that, If he don't know, I don't think any one will.
Are you there Bobbe, help me out here.
Cheers Dave.
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KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 29 July 2006 03:35 PM
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The Sho~Bud Pro-1 come standard with 3 pedals,and 2 knee levers,with both levers being on the right knee.  |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 29 July 2006 08:29 PM
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Dave-I believe you have a Professional S10 Sho-bud with rack and Barrell, which was just before the Pro 1's came out.Mine has the bellcranks on it and barrell tuners. Mine was 3 pedals and 2 knee levers. LL and RL, that way they didnt need a reverse knee lever. I got John Coop to get me parts for a 6 pedal and 5 knee lever which my good friend Fred Welch set it up for my E6 lean and mean tuning. I really like the tone and beauty of these old Sho-buds....al
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basilh
Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 30 July 2006 01:12 AM
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Dave, e-mail me the pics and I'll post them.
Baz |
Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 30 July 2006 02:41 AM
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The 3 pedal / 1 knee lever setup sounds like it could possibly be a Maverick. I could tell better if I could see a photo. I have a Sho-Bud Pro-1 and mine came original with 2 knees. It now has 4, but I've had mine completely re-done underneath.
 Nick [This message was edited by Nick Reed on 30 July 2006 at 09:56 AM.] |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 30 July 2006 02:51 AM
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I was thinking about that to Nick.The Maverick too came with a raised neck and had 3 pedals and 1 lever.Send Basil or me some pics Dave and we will post them.Ron |
Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 30 July 2006 04:24 AM
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I had two 6139s (not Mavericks) and they both had only one knee lever.First one I bought new in 72 and it'd probably been at the store at least a year. It was rack and barrel, clanky but great Sho-Bud tone. Second one was from the mid-late '70's, better mechanics but let's just say it was not one of the good-sounding Buds, I couldn't stand it with it's stock pickup or the 710 I put in it. If I'd kept it, I'd have Coop or Marrs replace the changer fingers and add some levers.[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 30 July 2006 at 04:28 AM.] |
Dan Beller-McKenna
Member From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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posted 30 July 2006 05:19 AM
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Guys, this is not a Maverick: he said there was a certificate with model #6139. I owned one of these in the 70s. Rack and Barrel, 3+1. Severe cabinet drop (or whatever; de-tuning).Dan ------------------
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Jonathan Shacklock
Member From: London, UK
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posted 30 July 2006 07:02 AM
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"MODEL NUMBERS FOR SHO-BUD PEDAL STEEL GUITARS6138 Single Neck 10 strings 3 pedals 6139 Single Neck 10 strings 3 pedals, 1 knee lever 6140 Single Neck 10 strings 6 pedals, no knee lever 6141 Double Neck 6 pedals, 1 knee lever-maple body 6142 Double Neck 6 pedals, 1 knee lever-rosewood body 6143 Professional Model Double Neck 10 strings 8 pedals, 2 knee levers 6148 Pro-I Single Neck 10 strings 3 pedals, 2 knee levers 6150 LDG Single Neck 10 strings 3 pedals, 4 knee levers 6152 Maverick Single Neck 10 strings 3 pedals, 1 knee lever 6155 Pro-II Double Neck 10 strings 8 pedals, 2 knee levers 6160 Pro-I Single Neck 12 string 3 pedals, 4 knee levers 6164 Pro-III Double Neck 10 strings 8 pedals, 4 knee levers 6165 Pro-II Double Neck 12 strings 8 pedals, 4 knee levers 6166 Super Pro Double Neck 10 strings 8 pedals, 6 knee levers" Field Guide to Sho-Bud Pedal Steel Guitars Dave, any more where yours came from? |
Pete Burak
Member From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 30 July 2006 09:36 AM
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I have a Pro-1 that started life as a 3x1.
It was a mid-late 70's, had one straight knee lever on RKL, triple raise double lower changer, dust catcher plastic fretboard (looks very similar to the one on Nick Reeds post, except it's a natural color, and no pad).
It is now a 7x5 S10U, fully rebuilt by Jeff at the Marrs shop.[This message was edited by Pete Burak on 30 July 2006 at 09:39 AM.] |
John Billings
Member From: Northfield Center, Ohio, USA
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posted 30 July 2006 12:57 PM
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Mine had only one knee lever. Now has five thanks to Ricky and John!. Big pedals, coil-taps, 2R/1L, no rack and barrel. Mid-seventies. Great guitar! |
Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 30 July 2006 01:26 PM
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I should have said this is a double raise, single lower using the two hole bell cranks.I only have one picture at the moment which I'll get Basil to put up for me.
Dave. |
basilh
Member From: United Kingdom
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posted 30 July 2006 01:53 PM
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Here it is
and for higher resolution click here http://www.waikiki-islanders.com/assets/PIC_0084.jpg (Nice Lady Dave !!)
My new lady :- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200010483941 [This message was edited by basilh on 30 July 2006 at 02:00 PM.] |
Nick Reed
Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 30 July 2006 02:02 PM
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Gourgous. . . . Definately not a Maverick! |
Ron Steenwijk
Member From: Greensburg,PA
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posted 30 July 2006 02:13 PM
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You got yourself a winner there Dave.And that sure is not a Maverick.Congrats.Ron |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 30 July 2006 03:33 PM
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Square front body but no "Pro 1" decal would place it early 70's, right? That would be my guess, especially if it has wide pedals.[This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 30 July 2006 at 03:36 PM.]
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Dave Mudgett
Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 30 July 2006 05:39 PM
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Yeah, man - very cool guitar, that ain't no Maverick. I have a 6139 with the round front, 3+3, 70-72 version with rack and barrel, two-way pickup with switch. It's supposedly a '72, although I suspect mine might be a little earlier. But I think that places this example a bit later than '72.Mine has similar yellowed finish birdseye-curly hard rock maple, rope inlay, and tone to the bone. You made a great score here, IMO. These are amazing guitars. Mine even plays pretty well, rack and barrel notwithstanding. With typical string gauges and a plain 6th string, I did notice significant and annoying cabinet drop, but when I went to Ricky Davis gauges (including a wound 6th string and a .012 3rd string), it got much, much better. But did I say tone? |
Skip Edwards
Member From: LA,CA
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posted 30 July 2006 08:22 PM
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The 1975 Sho-Bud catalog shows both S10 models... the ProI Custom (6148) and the Sho-Bud Professional (6139). (Yeah, I know the Professional was a D10, but by then they were making the ProIII and ProII and they were calling the 6139 a "Professional". At least, in that catalog they were.) The only differences I can see by the catalog is that the ProI came with 2 KL's while the 6139 came with only 1. The 6139 lacked the ProI decal, and - it's kinda hard to tell by the catalog picture,but it looks like the 6139 at that point might have still had a rounded front while the ProI had a square front. Again, that's just for the pic in the brochure. They were always making changes as they went along.
I guess it became pretty clear to them that they didn't need to make 2 S10's that were pretty much the same, so around '75 they dropped the 6139 and just made the ProI. Here's my 6139 that I bought new in '72, and it's a wonderful gtr. Sounds great, and the rack and barrel has a charm of it's own...even if it is a little clunky. 
[This message was edited by Skip Edwards on 30 July 2006 at 08:24 PM.]
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Dave Seddon
Member From: Leicester, England.
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posted 30 July 2006 10:20 PM
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Yes Chris it does have the wide pedals, and talking about pedals I even got the clip-on Sho-Bud volume pedal thrown in.
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Pete Burak
Member From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 31 July 2006 10:45 AM
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Dave, Based on what is shown of it in that pic, mine looks identicle (no Pro-1 sticker).
Different era mechanics, of course.
Also, mine came with narrow, smooth surface, pedals.
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