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Charles Curtis
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From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA

posted 29 August 2006 10:13 AM     profile     
Herb, do you know who built the first psg's at Emmons? I'm just curious if Ron Sr did it himself or had help. Thank you.
Herb Steiner
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From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX

posted 29 August 2006 03:08 PM     profile     
Charles
I don't know about the early, early guitars assembler, though a gentleman named Fred Trogden (whom I never met) was there in the mid-60's and was quite the expert at assembling these beasts.

Prior to his deal with Buddy and beginning what became the Emmons Guitar Co., Ron was building pickups and doing other chores for Leonard Stadler and Marvin Hudson at Marlen, and had a small part-time musical instrument business. His main gig was being a Physics teaching assistant at Appalachian College.

Again, Mike Cass needs to come in here. Mike, Mike, where are you Mike??

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Charles Curtis
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From: Bethesda, Maryland, USA

posted 29 August 2006 04:06 PM     profile     
Thank you Herb. I'm really curious about the beginnings of the Emmons Guitar Co. and the contributions made to what I believe is a remarkabls guitar. I just believe that there had to be some "deep" thinking in the design of the instrument to produce such, IMO, a fantastic sound. Whenever I've been to Emmons, in Burlington, the focus was on my guitar and the work to be done on it. I never thought to ask anyone down there about the company, etc. I'm sure they are really busy; they were always so nice to me and really helpful. I appreciate any info you or any of the guys can share. I just hate to see any history get lost.
Pat Burns
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From: Branchville, N.J. USA

posted 29 August 2006 04:42 PM     profile     
Thanks Herb and Jerry....Jerry, that's what I was picturing, too, when Herb said his stereo guitar had a wooden neck. Herb, if I understand you correctly, the Ebay guitar wasn't originally a wraparound, it was a wood neck bolt-on later transformed into a metal neck wraparound...however, it was originally manufactured in the same time frame as the first metal neck wraparounds? I thought the wraparound housing came before the bolt-on...were they contemporary, with bolt-ons only originally being used for wood necks? I'm kinda fuzzy on the time line.

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Chris Lucker
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From: Los Angeles, California USA

posted 29 August 2006 05:19 PM     profile     
The 1964 Emmons Brochure pictures at least two Emmons metal neck Wraparounds. One (or more) eight pedal no knees guitar is displayed for the purpose of showing guitar features, and there is a picture of Buddie Emmons (the way it was spelled) playing a guitar with a LKR lever. In the text we are told that a guitar may be ordered with wood necks as an option.

The Stereo feature, we are told in the brochure, enables a player to use both channels of a single amp -- one channel for treble strings and a second channel for the bass strings.

The guitar Buddie Emmons is shown playing does not appear to have the Stereo soapbar pickup that the featured brochure guitar has. I cannot tell from the photo if the Buddie Emmons guitar has the first changer or the first setup method. The Ebay Emmons clearly has the first changer, although I am surprised to see raise hooks fitting into the finger holes.

In the 1964 brochure there is a bare bones setup on the E9 side, I assume, shown as an example of the universal nature of the guitar. It shows raises only for the E9. They are:
pedal A raises #5 only, not #10, and has three extra bellcranks.
B raises 3 & 6 and has two extra bellcranks.
And C raises 4 & 5 and has two extra bellcranks.
There are lots of spare unused bellcranks distributed where they may likely be put to use.
Moving south to the C6 side we have pedals doing the following:
pedal four raises #1, lowers #5, raises #9 and raises #10.
Pedal five raises #2, and lowers #6, I think, and has two extra bellcranks.
Pedal six raises #3, and raises #4 and has two extra bellcranks.
Pedal seven lowers #3, or so I deduce from the photo, and has three extra bellcranks.
Pedal eight raises #7 and lowers #9 and #10.

There. I have it correct.

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Chris Lucker
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From: Los Angeles, California USA

posted 31 August 2006 04:02 PM     profile     
Cleared and included above.

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