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Topic: Mullen Tone & Sustain Mod
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Mitch Ellis Member From: Mississippi, USA
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posted 10 September 2006 09:53 AM
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Curt, That tone mod looks very much like my tone mod!(ha!ha!)Alot of times, I have trouble with mine.  Mitch |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 10 September 2006 10:13 AM
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tb, do you now, or have you EVER, owned a Mullen? |
Curt Langston Member From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA***
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posted 10 September 2006 12:26 PM
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I hear you Mitch. Me too!  |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 10 September 2006 01:46 PM
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Stephen, The answer is yes and no! Yes I did own one briefly many years ago. No I dont own one now!! |
Curt Langston Member From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA***
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posted 10 September 2006 02:50 PM
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I have owned a Mullen, and of course it did not need a "mod"! |
Eddie D.Bollinger Member From: Calhoun City, Mississippi
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posted 10 September 2006 07:44 PM
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Tommy, I, as much or more than anbody here, realize how much your adjustments and additions to a guitar can enhance an already acceptable tone. These guys are just ridiculing something they don't understand. Like most of us, they feel their tone is as good as money can buy and their hands can pluck out. That is fine. They have that right. Now to anyone who feels the perpetual need to belittle and demean new ideas still basically in the design stage, I urge you to call Tommy and talk with him about what he did to Eddie Bollinger's 1998 Pre-BCT Carter. Tommy can answer your questions and maybe people will stop unfairly accusing him of hijacking one particular Brand. Tommy has things that he can do to any guitar to enhance sustain, tone etc. He helped me. If you do not need his help, then play your perfect guitars and get off his case on this forum.
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Calvin Walley Member From: colorado city colorado, USA
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posted 10 September 2006 07:55 PM
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HEY it was him that started it by picking on Mullen...BIG MISTAKE------------------ Mullen SD-10 3&5 / nashville 400 [This message was edited by Calvin Walley on 10 September 2006 at 07:56 PM.]
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Al Miller Member From: Nashville, TN
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posted 11 September 2006 08:58 AM
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Mullen Guitars ! Lacking tone? I dont think so .. Lacking sustain? Not on your life.. you Fellows want sustain and tone differnt from the way Del builds them than build your own guitar and call it the MOD!!  I have been playing a mullen for somewhere close to 12 yrs and it sounds like a MULLEN guitar thats why i play it .. im sure this fellow doing such mods has great intentions.. But i can mod my guitar right here at home .. I can polish the Brass rollers with a dremel and get a slighter bite out of the guitar, I can also change strings and get a slight tone or sustain differnce. heck i started using a 15/16 bar and noticed a slight difference in tone. I have the same pickups in the guitar That came with it (STOCK)Single coil and im guessing if i changed them it would give me a slight tonal change but im with the fellow that stated "ITS IN THE HANDS" there will never be another EMMONS,FRANKLIN, DAY, WHITE, GREEN,....... and so on {sorry if i over looked your favorite} .. so why try to be them or why try to make your mullen sound like a push pull?????????? I didnt mean to offend any one just my opinion .. and how bout telling us what this mod is??? Boo Miller [This message was edited by Al Miller on 11 September 2006 at 09:00 AM.] [This message was edited by Al Miller on 11 September 2006 at 09:02 AM.] |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 11 September 2006 07:18 PM
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First off, let me say, I don't think you that are skeptical of Tommy's mod have the right to be until you've heard one of his modded guitars. It just so happens that I was at the Jimmy Davis Tribute where Dale Lacy played his sunburst Mullen that Tommy had done the mod on. I heard this same guitar back in April before the mod, and although it sounded very good then, I could definately hear the difference Saturday night. Dale's guitar had a much richer/fuller tone that it had in April.And the sustain was much better also. It seemed to me Dale was playing with more confidence, and I think I would to if my guitar sounded like that. When/if I ever get a good Country Gospel group together and start playing dates, somewhere besides my church and at home, I will be taking my guitar to Tommy for the mod. It's the real deal guys. " Beleive it or not" Terry ------------------ Mullen RP D10 /8x5 / Nashville 112 x 2 / American Tele and Fender Hotrod Deville 2x12's Thank God for music.
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Calvin Walley Member From: colorado city colorado, USA
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posted 11 September 2006 09:05 PM
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think about this: a Mullen cost $2000.00 -$5000.00 do you really want to trust sending it across country via UPS or Fed x... to someone that you don't know...to do something the factory wouldn't do ??? NOW THATS WHAT I CALL GAMBLING ------------------ Mullen SD-10 3&5 / nashville 400 |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 12 September 2006 10:51 AM
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Has anyone replaced their 1/2 wood wit 3/4 wood and compared the tone? |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 12 September 2006 11:17 AM
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Has anyone replaced their 1/2 wood with 3/4 wood and compared the tone? |
Mike Mantey Member From: Seibert, Colorado, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 11:29 AM
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Just wanted to clarify one thing. No Mullen guitars have been built with 1/2" wood. The HWP is 3/4 and the Royal precision is 5/8. |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 11:34 AM
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TB, I hadn't measured the thickness of the wood on my Mullen RP with a tape, but if I ain't bad fooled, just lookin at it I beleive it's 5/8" thick. I don't know what the thickness of the pre RPs are. I'm not saying I'm unsatisfied with my tone, I'm very satisifed with the tone of my Mullen RP with the single coil stock pups, but I beleive any guitar can be improved in tone by changing a few things. And that was proven to me Sat night when I heard Dale's guitar. I think he told me his was a pre RP model, 96 model maybe. One of the purtiest sunburst Laquer guitars I've ever seen.Terry ------------------ Mullen RP D10 /8x5 / Nashville 112 x 2 / American Tele and Fender Hotrod Deville 2x12's Thank God for music.
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Jeff Lampert Member From: queens, new york city
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posted 12 September 2006 12:20 PM
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This thread is positively looney. If you gave me a choice between the best-sounding steel ever made and I'm a good player, or simply a good-sounding steel and I play like Charlie Parker (or put a favorite musician of yours here), I would choose to play like CP every day of the week and on Sunday, and screw the "great tone". Great guitar tone means nothing if you don't have the technique, understanding of harmony, phrasing, melodicism, etc. etc. The native tone of the guitar is 10% of the picture, and if any mod improves the tone 10% of that(very unlikely) then the tone is 11% of the picture, which means that any so-called mod means virtually nothing in the context of playing music. All IMVHO.------------------ Jeff's Jazz
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Dale Stacy Member From: Pontotoc, Ms. U.S.A.
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posted 12 September 2006 06:07 PM
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Thanks to Terry Sneed for the nice complement on the guitar. I feel very fortunate to have had the opportunity to hear and experience first hand these changes or modifications. I realize it may sound like some gimmick to some but I sincerely hope that some will try and keep an open mind. |
Patrick Carlson Member From: Sutton, Nebraska, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 07:54 PM
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A large steel guitar dealer in Tennesee recently said in his newsletter to be skeptical of some things you read here on the forum!  ------------------ The Lone Prairie Steeler Pat |
Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y.
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posted 12 September 2006 10:41 PM
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He's right. |
Mitch Ellis Member From: Mississippi, USA
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posted 12 September 2006 10:53 PM
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I agree with Jeff. This mod may,in fact, help the tone of some steel's or maybe even all steel's. I guess "how much" it helps, depends on who's listening. But in my opinion, no piece of equiptment, or any adjustment one might make to a guitar, will ever be as valuable as knowledge of music, knowledge of the instrument, and a good "touch". Mitch |
Eddie D.Bollinger Member From: Calhoun City, Mississippi
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posted 13 September 2006 07:27 AM
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If you have no need of any help from Tommy, then I am sure this thread is very annoying to all the professionals with great hands and all the perfect guitars with stellar tone. So if you are in that category you guys may just have to talk among yourselves on another thread and we that are interested in new things will chat over here. I have in my possession now, another guitar that Tom worked on. I am excited about it. The band asked me all during rehearsal what was different. I can't even begin to tell you what he did to the guitar. If that interests you, Call Tommy. If you think it is a hoax, then by all means, just get on here and rip anyone you can to shreds. That is sure to make you feel better. That always helps when your feeling a bit insecure.... The proof lies in a lot of things, The tone and sustain THAT I hear, The confidence that I gain by hearing the afore mentioned tone. The difference noticed by non-steel players. The difference noticed by my wife, (Who hasn't commented on anything I have played in years). So, yes, It is a very personal and opinion related subject. The only person that I have to overcome in the steel battle is me. If I sound like crap, I can only blame me. So, if I can do anything to boost any one of the areas mentioned above. I am on it. I am pretty sure there are a few Saturday nite pickers like myself who are open minded enough to aquire knowledge first and then draw a valid conclusion. Remember, It's "Aim, ready, shoot" NOT....... "Shoot, ready, aim"
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Dale Stacy Member From: Pontotoc, Ms. U.S.A.
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posted 13 September 2006 07:58 AM
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What a breath of fresh air to hear from someone who's not shooting first and asking questions later. The proof is in the puddin' When folks who don't even play steelguitar start noticing a difference, that speaks volume. I rest my case with all you nonbelivers. |
Mike Vallandigham Member From: Concord, CA
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posted 13 September 2006 08:32 AM
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You guys are hilarious. Like I'm gonna send my Spanking new RP to Mississippi cause a bunch of guys on the internet said I should. Especially when no one will tell us what the mod involves. Thanks for the laughs.  |
Terry Sneed Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 13 September 2006 08:47 AM
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Just wanted to clear something up I said in my earlier post. I said Dale was playing with more confidence. I didn't mean in any way,to make it sound like Dale is an inexperienced player. He is a seasoned steel guitar player that can play with the best of em! And one heck of a good guy!Terry ------------------ Mullen RP D10 /8x5 / Nashville 112 x 2 / American Tele and Fender Hotrod Deville 2x12's Thank God for music.
[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 13 September 2006 at 08:56 AM.]
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Eddie D.Bollinger Member From: Calhoun City, Mississippi
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posted 13 September 2006 09:43 AM
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quote: Like I'm gonna send my Spanking new RP to Mississippi cause a bunch of guys on the internet said I should.
No one has even suggested that you do that. If you are happy with your sound and your guitar, This thread has very little to do with you. If you are interested in the modification and need to know more about it, I suggest, AGAIN, Call Tommy. This may just involve people who are close enough to escort their instruments to Ethelsville, AL. Tommy would be the first to tell you that freight and damage issues could be a problem. I say again to everyone, "privately question this idea with the author before you publicly bash it."
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Brint Hannay Member From: Maryland, USA
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posted 13 September 2006 09:51 AM
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Those of you who have had the mod done:Do YOU know what the mod involves? Did Tommy tell you what he was actually going to DO before you authorized the work? That is, is it that you know but won't tell because he asked you (or had you sign a contract) not to, or does he keep it secret even from the customer? |
Dave Potter Member From: Republic of Texas (near San Antonio)
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posted 13 September 2006 10:16 AM
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Snake oil. Gotta' Love It. |
tbhenry Member From: Chattanooga /USA
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posted 13 September 2006 10:46 AM
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What exactly is this mod? I knew what it was I would be in a better position to comment on it, and who knows get Tommy to add it to my guitar.
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John McGann Member From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
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posted 13 September 2006 11:16 AM
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Jeff Lampert- you da man!  |
Eddie D.Bollinger Member From: Calhoun City, Mississippi
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posted 13 September 2006 11:39 AM
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Tommy Young's Phone# 662-251-0948 |
Curt Langston Member From: ***In the shadows of Tulsa at Bixby, USA***
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posted 13 September 2006 11:49 AM
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"Get your Mullen Tone Mod, by Ronco!" |
b0b Sysop From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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posted 13 September 2006 12:05 PM
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This topic has gotten ugly. I'm closing this topic now.------------------
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