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Topic: Sho~Bud Baldwin, But Not a Crossover?
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Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 07 September 2006 12:49 PM
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I think we've put this one safely to bed. I am certainly learning the hard way that it's sometimes better to ask these technical and historical questions off-forum. If I had to know what the guitar actually was, I certainly would have focused my inquiries privately. Then I could have presented the facts on a thread instead of causing such a fuss, which was never my intention. This one can be closed, b0b. Thanks a lot everyone for your support in this thread, especially Bobbe and Tommy for solidifying this guitar's place in Sho~Bud history for me. And thanks to Lloyd for the enjoyable correspondence. |
Jim Vogan
Member From: Ohio City, Ohio 45874
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posted 07 September 2006 01:08 PM
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Your a good man, Chris! Enjoy the Sho-Bud!------------------
Jim Vogan
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Jim Phelps
Member From: just out of Mexico City
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posted 07 September 2006 01:31 PM
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I don't think you did anything wrong by asking about your guitar here, Chris. That's one of the things this forum is for. As for creating a fuss, this is nothing. Search on JI and ET tuning sometime...  |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 07 September 2006 03:04 PM
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Yeah Chris, We're all family here!! And it's not like you asked if Jerry Garcia used to own that guitar! (Then again, he didn't, did he???)  |
Skip Edwards
Member From: LA,CA
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posted 07 September 2006 03:38 PM
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Congrats, Chris. You scored. |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 07 September 2006 03:59 PM
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Thanks, guys.........that means a lot. The only thing that really made me buy it was that the levers worked okay and I knew i could at least raise and lower my E's. I went out on a limb and I'm glad it paid off. I bought it for tone and got much, much more. It's nice that this guitar has a bit of history. |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 09 September 2006 08:07 AM
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Here she is all shined up with new strings. Thanks to James Morehead (via Ricky Davis) for the cleaning tips.  |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 09 September 2006 08:14 AM
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Sho~Bud is one of two bases I don't yet have covered in terms of guitars I really really eventually want. Sure wish you wouldn't point that thing at me.
Congratulations on gaining that treasure. |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 09 September 2006 09:58 AM
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Jon,Thanks. I can't describe in words how good this guitar sounds. I plugged it into my old Session 400 last night after changing the strings and tuning it up, and striking the first chord almost fell off my chair. The tone of this guitar is incredible. I'm tempted to bring it to the gig tonight, but need to fine tune it a bit more. I'm just getting my head around the single raise-lower mechanism. And the weight? Well, let's just say I can spin my Carter SD-10 on the top of my finger now. I am convinced that the density of this guitar is a factor in its tone. It loudly resonates acoustically, and that resonation comes through the pickups when plugged in and just creates this big fat wall of sound.[This message was edited by Chris LeDrew on 09 September 2006 at 10:03 AM.] |
Russ Tkac
Member From: Waterford, Michigan, USA
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posted 09 September 2006 11:23 AM
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Chris,You and the Sho~Bud clean up pretty good! Russ |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 09 September 2006 12:47 PM
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That's just too cool, Bro! |
Alan F. Brookes
Member From: Brummy living in California, USA
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posted 09 September 2006 05:51 PM
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Chris:Maybe you could share some of those cleaning tips. I have two very dirty Sho-Buds. |
Bob Blair
Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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posted 09 September 2006 06:44 PM
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Gorgeous guitar Chris! |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 09 September 2006 10:37 PM
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Thanks, guys...........now I need some help figuring out what to call it. It's not a Crossover, it's not a Professional, it's not a Pro II...........what is it? A Sho~Bud "Transition"? That doesn't really have a ring to it, does it?  Russ, no amount of polish will get the grit off me. Bob, did you check out the Professional Jeff Bradshaw has on his website? It looks in top notch shape, and it's not too far from you.........you should buy it. I'm pretty sure it has the rack and barrel like mine. Trust me, if it's anything like this one you'll love the sound. James, you started all this with that Professional in St. Louis, you know. If this guitar had to be covered in cement I would have bought it after playing yours.....ha-ha! Alan, I sent you an email. |
Charlie McDonald
Member From: Lubbock, Texas, USA
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posted 10 September 2006 02:17 AM
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What a cool find, Chris.I only wonder: was this guitar built by an employee on company time? Just kidding! |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 10 September 2006 07:18 AM
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Well Chris, Maybe not if it was covered in cement. Cement dampens tone. And the undercarraige might be made out of re-bar. Plus You'd need a jack-hammer to tune the end tuners. It was fun displaying my refurbished bud next to that old narley bud. It really drove home the point about what's possible, and what you can do as far as resurrecting these old guitars. My hat's off to Coop on that one![This message was edited by James Morehead on 10 September 2006 at 07:22 AM.] |
Bob Blair
Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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posted 10 September 2006 08:00 AM
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Yeah, that's a good looking Professional, and if Jeff says it's beautiful I have no doubt that it is. I'd like to find a day to get down there - it's a little less than two hours each way. |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 11 September 2006 11:04 AM
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Well Chris, Did you gig with your bud this weekend? |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 11 September 2006 04:03 PM
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No, James........I went with the Carter SD-10 this weekend. I spent most of the week cleaning it. I didn't have the strings back on it until Saturday morning and spent Sunday fine-tuning all the pulls. It is a heavy beast, too. That is discouraging me a bit from taking it to the gigs with a difficult load-in. I managed to get all the pedals and levers perfectly in tune and returning true every time. It took a while, but now it's ready to go. I don't think it's ever really seen a lot of heavy playing. I think it's gone from one non-playing owner to another. Not anymore!! I will have 'er out on a gig soon, no doubt. |
James Morehead
Member From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA
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posted 11 September 2006 04:22 PM
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Way Cool! |
Rick Anderson
Member From: Schenectady, NY USA
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posted 17 October 2006 07:06 AM
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Hi Chris,
I not sure but I think the crossovers had 6 pedals?
Rick A |
Chris LeDrew
Member From: Newfoundland, Canada
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posted 17 October 2006 07:16 AM
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Hey Rick,This is not a Crossover. It's a Baldwin with a regular rack and barrel undercarriage, 8 + 3. See my ad in the "For Sale" section, and Bobbe's info in his posts on this thread. |
BobbeSeymour
Member From: Hendersonville TN USA
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posted 17 October 2006 08:11 AM
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It's a Sho-Bud transexual, with a automatic transmition, (no shifter).
What do you call it? Either Betty, or Bob, .............Which ever way it went,
It is a very limited guitar, albeit, a production guitar, in a way.
Remember, Sho-Bud made hundreds of different guitars over the years. Sho-Bud produced over 150 guitars a day in the seventies, this included mavricks, Pro One Twos and Threes, LDGs, Super Pros, many expermentals, and customs done by Shot and and Harry. Just imagine, 150 a day! This is from David's mouth himself.
Bobbe
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