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Topic: Second String E9 Tuning
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Billy Henderson Member From: Portland, AR, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 12:13 PM
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My second string lowers a whole step (D# - C#) Is that a common change? I can't figure out how to use it. Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance> |
Michael Haselman Member From: St. Paul Park, Minnesota, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 12:41 PM
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I'll be the first here. Most (95%) of E9 players have a double lower on the second string, taking it down a half, (which is IMHO way more useful than the whole step lower) then another half. With the half step, you get a 7th with no pedals, and some great sus 4 licks with AB pedals. Try and get that when you can. The whole step is good for unison licks with 5th string pedals down, and many more.------------------ Marrs D-10, Webb 6-14E, Peavey NV112, Hilton volume.
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Wayne Wallett Member From: Shermans Dale, PA USA
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posted 21 September 2006 12:48 PM
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Here's a couple suggestions. Most are set up with 1/2 stop feel at (D) can be used with strings 3,4,5,6,8,10 for a dominant 7th. Pressing past 1/2 stop to C# and pressing C pedal (raising 5th B to C# gives unisons on 2nd and 5th. Move up 3 frets from whatever your #1 chord, hit strings 2 & 5 and slowely release gives 1 string going up one down (lick Emmons used in Healing Hands of Time) cut. Then slide up 2 frets to #4 chord. Nice change. Takes you from 1 to 4 chord. Try 2nd lowered to C# with other strings & pedals, some interesting changes. Good luck. |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 21 September 2006 02:48 PM
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think of it more as notes in a scaledescending or ascending scales.. along with the 2nd string raise this offers 4 notes on the 2nd string including the natural. Once the notes are in your head.. all bets are off..
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David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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posted 21 September 2006 10:58 PM
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The whole step lower to C# gives the 6th for 6th neck type licks on E9. |
Paul Redmond Member From: Illinois, USA
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posted 22 September 2006 12:32 AM
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Try tuning it to D rather than D#. If you must, drop it to C# on a knee. Once you get used to the D and see how it enhances the tuning, especially when playing pedals-down, you'll love it. PRR |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC
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posted 22 September 2006 04:50 AM
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if you can adapt the D to your style of playing then that may be a good thing.Unfortunatley for our Instrument, we can make a tuning change to make an addition, but at the same time we just removed some things which may be of value... Only the player can determine this... I struggled with the half stop for several months. brought the D# down to D..it was great for the phrasing that required the half stop..but I lost the D# phrases which in many cases worked with the 2nd string 1/2 step raise. Back to D# I went and made a modification to my Steel for a very positive 2nd string half stop. I am thinking that many folks who tune the D# down to D are doing it because they are not confident in the half stop lower.[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 22 September 2006 at 04:51 AM.] |
Charlie McDonald Member From: Lubbock, Texas, USA
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posted 22 September 2006 05:53 AM
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I'm thinking many tune 2 to D because a dom 7 is their default chord. I like having the M7 as a default, with the ability to lower it to dom 7. Having both seems to increase the string's use as a passing tone. |
Randy Hess Member From: Hendersonville,Tn
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posted 28 September 2006 11:05 AM
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Jimmie Crawford tuned it to a D & had a 1/2 step raise to a D# & a lower to the C# (I can't remember which knees did what).[This message was edited by Randy Hess on 28 September 2006 at 11:06 AM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA
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posted 28 September 2006 11:42 AM
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Lowering D# to D is the standard change, and it's the most useful. Many people have a "feel stop" at D. Pushing the lever harder then lowers it to C# (and often lowers the 9th string to C# as well). The D note is particularly useful in the positions at the II and V frets of the current key. For example in the key of G, the D# to D lower gives you a scale note at the 5th and 10th frets. The first string is also a scale note there, so you will have lots of scale runs available (especially with pedals down).------------------
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