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Topic: Fender Pedal Steels
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Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 25 October 2006 07:06 AM
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OK.. I have heard Barbara and Sneaky Pete, and a few others. I want a Fender single neck. May I have feed back on different models and your experiences. 10 ro 8? Jay Ganz and others have found ones set up with better systems (no cables); Also: Which pickups are "The ones" I love the guitar-like clarity of Pete's sound. Any advice would be nice. I am not yet shopping- just gathering information. ------------------
Push Pull Emmons: D-10; D-12. Fender S-8 & T-8 lapsteels. National Resos and Lapsteels. [This message was edited by Buck Dilly on 26 October 2006 at 11:35 AM.]
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Dave Zirbel
Member From: Sebastopol, CA USA
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posted 25 October 2006 07:37 AM
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The older 400s (S-8) and 1000s (D-8) have the Jazzmaster style pickups which sound fatter than the later 800s (S-10) and 2000s (D-10) which have the thinner sound. Mooney, Sneakey and I think Chalker had old 400s and 1000s. Brumley had a 2000 at one point and so did Chalker and I'm sure many more did. If you do a search of the forum archives you should get some results and you can probably find out everything you'll need to know. Sneaky had his pickups rewound and added another identical one to get the out of phase sound. His guitar is pretty versitile. Dave |
Jim Sliff
Member From: Hermosa Beach California, USA
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posted 25 October 2006 07:47 AM
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Having both, I actually think the later Jaguar-type is much fatter sounding than the early pickup! but they can vary - those pickups were scatterwound and there are quite a few variances between them.The 8-string short-scale s more convenient and a bit easier to play than the long scale, which is known for string breakage and stiff feel...but they can be adjusted for better feel and there are some tricks to eliminate string breaks. The big question is what copedent do you want to use? If you want standard E9, then a 10-string wiht added knees makes more sense. But the 8-strings are more popular, either with an abbreviated E9 or Sneaky's B6 (which several of us use versions of). It's also a popular thing to add a second pickup - plenty of room on either type, and makes a HUGE difference in the tones available. With 2 Jag-types on my 400 I can get the older-type "thinner" sound, a big fat meaty tone, or a Strat-like bite out of it by using the switch and volume/tone controls (which every steel should have IMO). There are so many details, you probably need to post more exacting questions....especially regarding copedent. |
Buck Dilly
Member From: Branchville, NJ, USA
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posted 26 October 2006 11:34 AM
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If I get a 10 string I will use E9, if an s-8 w/ 8 pedals I may try Pete Kleinow's Coped. I want the tone above all. How about the conversion to rods? And- I would add a second pickup. [This message was edited by Buck Dilly on 26 October 2006 at 11:34 AM.] |
Jay Ganz
Member From: Out Behind The Barn
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posted 26 October 2006 01:20 PM
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The band I was in back in the mid 70's opened
for the Burritos. I got a close-up view of Pete's old Fender 400 on stage before they
began their set. It did have the two pickups
on it (similar in appearance to Strat pickups).
Also had some strange decals on the top which
probably affected the tone  . I wouldn't
recommend E9th tuning if you want "that sound".
I used it on mine for awhile when I first got
it....and it sounded OK, but going down to the
B9th I'm using now made a BIG difference!
At least it's in the ballpark anyhow. |
Steve Epstein
Member From: Orinda, CA
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posted 26 October 2006 05:04 PM
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I have owned a few and still own a Fender Artist 3/4. It was a last attempt by Fender to stay in PSG game by having Sho Bud build the guitars. What I love about them is the pinched, dare I say, '60's tone these guitars produce. They are mechanically sound, at least in comparison to a Fender 400, and the ease of use is clearly present. |
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