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Topic: Pedal 7 on knee lever?? Mr. Marcus.
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Parr Bryan
Member From: Texas USA
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posted 18 December 2006 08:20 AM
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Hi All,
I'm playing that C6 (actually B6) and use the pedal 4 some and 7 quite often. I'm thinking of putting the pedal 7 pulls on my RKL as this would free me up to much less jumping around on the pedals. I use a '78 MSA D10. I already have RKL pulling both E's to F's on E9. Is putting 4 pulls (all strings raised) on the RKL going to be to much??? Mr. Al Marcus I beleive made mention of putting pedal 7 on a knee lever. How many of you guys do this and what's it like. Thanks for you help! ------------------
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
Member From: Clinton, Missouri USA
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posted 18 December 2006 08:44 AM
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I have four pulls on mine and it does make a small problem. You have to really make sure that you push the lever all the way to the stop. But, it is workable. As to the C-6th question, I know several people who have taken this off the floor and put it on a knee lever. That particular pull does have a lot of travel. But, to quit rambling, yes it will work. |
Earnest Bovine
Member From: Los Angeles CA USA
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posted 18 December 2006 09:12 AM
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What are those pulls? |
Pete Burak
Member From: Portland, OR USA
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posted 18 December 2006 10:04 AM
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I have P7 on LKR on my Sierra S12U.
I got the idea from Bill Stafford (not sure which knee he has it on though.
I like it there for my style, but you will always be able to do P7 things faster on a pedal than on a knee.
I have it on the traditional P7 pedal on some of my steels. |
Parr Bryan
Member From: Texas USA
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posted 18 December 2006 10:53 AM
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Earnest,
Those pulls on P7 are the standard string 5 (+1, c-d), and 6 (+1, a-b) for C6. |
Parr Bryan
Member From: Texas USA
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posted 18 December 2006 10:56 AM
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Pete,
You got me thinking on the speed of the pedal vs a knee lever. Man, I didn't think of that! Hummm! |
Lee Baucum
Member From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) - The Final Frontier
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posted 18 December 2006 10:58 AM
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I've got those pulls on a knee-lever on my Mullen U-12. It's situated in the middle of the guitar, over the B6 pedals. |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 18 December 2006 11:26 AM
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Parr-Pete, bill and a few others have done this with no real probleml. I have found that I can keep my right foot on the volume pedal and my left foot on Pedals 5 & 6 on C6 configuration, believe it or not , it is possible to play 1000 old big band standards and jazz tones , without jumping around with your left foot , or taking it off the volume pedal to play P 7. A lot of guys are doing this now. However , if you have to play P7 (the Maj7th)very quickly, then the pedal on the floor is better. But then again, why not have both?? Bill Stafford has both and I do too...al  ------------------
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Larry Bell
Member From: Englewood, Florida
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posted 18 December 2006 01:19 PM
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Another option is P6 on a lever
I've been doing this for 30 years on E9/B6 and never use both feet on the pedals. I just lower E to D (8th string) on LKR and lower both 4 and 8 to D# on RKL. With RKL in, you have B6; let off RKL and simultaneously engage LKR and you have E9 -- which IS the result of pressing P6 in B6 (P6 on C6 gives an F9)I do use P7 for faster tunes a lot -- Raisin' the Dickens is a good example -- and I can't move it that fast on a lever. It's a very personal decision. What works for me or my old buddy Al won't necessarily be what's best for you. ------------------
Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
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Fred Glave
Member From: McHenry, Illinois, USA
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posted 18 December 2006 06:37 PM
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On my U12 I play with 2 feet occasionally. Especially in B6 tuning I use P1(raising Bs to C#) or P1 and P2(G#s to A)with one foot. But sometimes use P5(F#-7 string to F, E-11 string to F and B-12 string to B#) WITH P1. I've often wondered what it would be like to duplicate those first two pedals on levers. Using pedal 5 and 1 is the tough one. |
John Bechtel
Member From: Nashville, Tennessee,U.S.A.
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posted 20 December 2006 11:37 PM
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On Bill Stafford's Original Sierra 14-str. Elegante’ he had P-7 on his LKR. You want answers to obscure trivia, just aXe me! If I don't know the answer, I'll give it my best GUESS! BTW: His 7th. pedal Raised 2-strs. equivalent to C6 (A)'s to (Bb)'s. P-7 Raised the same strings as P-4, but; only 1/2 the distance. Oh! you didn't aXe that, did you?
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Richard Sinkler
Member From: Fremont, California
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posted 22 December 2006 05:34 PM
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I have it on my RKR. I also have pedal 8 on a lever, LKL. I have no problems using them this way. |
Al Marcus
Member From: Cedar Springs,MI USA
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posted 23 December 2006 06:23 PM
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Larry Bell-your way of taking care of the problem is logical and many players do use it the way you suggested. I can vouch for your Ecellent playing to prove it.As for me, I used my right foot for over 40 years playing that Maj7th pedal, before we had knee levers. So I just cant use my left foot for it. So I solved my problem by using the P7 maj7th on a rk lever and my foot covers P 5 and P6 and that is all I need basically for 90% of my old tunes. Either one or both for the Diminished. I haven't seen you in awhile , Larry, how is everything going in Florida? Well, I hope.
Here is wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy and Successful New Year and many more to come....al
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