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Topic: Excel Keyless 3rd string
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Roland Buras
Member From: Kiln, MS, USA
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posted 28 December 2006 04:26 AM
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Hi Jim, Bill Stafford asked me to write you concerning string breakage on your excel. I personally have three Excels, My first a 2002 SD12 8x5 with the string load from the changer "Rear" to the set screw on the front keyless tuning, never in four years broke one string. I have since purchased a 2004 and a 2005 both SD12 9x7 superbs. I have expierinced two problems i had {not the Guitar} first mistake was putting on a regular electric 011 guitar string designed for 6 string guitar and not steel. The second was tightning the G# 3rd set screw to tight and cut the string. one other for me was looking at the keyless tuning from the front on my 2002 i had put my string to the left of the set screw and that would snap it every time. for me the string on the right side of the set screw was the proper way to string the keyless tuner. and do not tighten the string to hard. on the 2004 ans 2005 they string with the ball at the keyless tuner end and tighten at the changer set screw. The above problems had nothing to do with the mechanicals or workmanship of the guitar, yet simply an error and oversight on my part. after resolving my problem i have not broken a string. I use Bill Staffords gauges, ghs and Sit, steel guitar strings and Billy Carr's, George L's Goodluck
R J Buras, Mississippi Gulf coast
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Rick Nicklas
Member From: Pleasant Ridge, Mo
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posted 28 December 2006 05:52 AM
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Jim, I sincerely hope you resolve your problem.... but in the meantime, I do think you should apply for "The Most String Breakage on Pedal Steel" in Guiness Records. I have participated in Clothing Drives before but I think we are going to have to start a String Drive for you. Hope Don can get the right answers for you.... Rick |
ed packard
Member From: Show Low AZ
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posted 28 December 2006 06:13 AM
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Jim....try putting one or two pieces of electrical tape (or similar) on the finger area where the string crosses the tuning finger. |
James Quackenbush
Member From: Pomona, New York, USA
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posted 28 December 2006 06:49 AM
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Roland and friends,
Thanks for your replies...Roland ,
My steel is a newer model and is only 9 mos old ...I have the model ( look at my pictures here in this tread )that has the ball attached under a fork on the tuner end of the steel which sounds like your 2005 model that you described...The string is NOT breaking at the changer end of the pedal steel from the screws ..It is breaking at the tuner end ...Take a look at my pictures , and you will be able to clearly see on your 2005 tuner where my strings are breaking ....Thanks for your reply ...Every reply is very helpful... Don Curtis from Scotties seem's to think that if I put on some reinforced strings on it , that they will do the trick ... The strings that are on my steel know look to have heavier windings on them ...This could be the reinforced strings that Don is talking about ... He is sending me 2 strings from 4 different manufacturers for me to try out ...This will be step one, and hopefully the final step in the process of figuring out what's up with my steel .. Don assured me that he would go to any length to remedy this problem !!...THIS my friends is customer service at it's best ..I would not hesitate for one minute to buy another steel from Scotty and Don in the future ... They really do care about their customers !!.... Ed,
I'll try that electrical tape to see how it works ... As far as going into the Guiness book of world records, I hope this will be resolved soon, or I will be going into the record books for drinking the most Guiness while attempting to change a 3rd string on a pedal steel !!...( Not really...I've been sober since 1988 thank God !! ) ..Jim |
ed packard
Member From: Show Low AZ
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posted 28 December 2006 07:48 AM
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Jim...anything soft, like electrical spaghetti sleeving is worth a try. Unfortunately, that particular design places a sharp bend, the end of the winding at the same place. This makes tensile stress, shear stress, and all come together at the same location. |
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