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Alvin Blaine
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From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 20 February 2005 11:15 PM     profile     
I talked to Donny Herron(BR549) today and he told me that he just got the gig with Bob Dylan. He will be playing steel, fiddle, mandolin, and anything else he gets his hands on.
Dylan also has hired Elana Fremerman, fiddler from "Hot Club of Cowtown" , so her and Donny have been working out twin fiddle parts on Dylan's songs.

So now I am officially jealous, this is the kind of gig I would love to get. Oh well, Donny will do a great job and he deserves to get a good paying job like this, especially after some of the gigs the we've done together.
I just feel bad for the guy's in BR549 now that Chris and Donny are both gone.

So everyone go see this years Dylan tour with Haggard, and say congratulations to Donny.

Smiley Roberts
Member

From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 20 February 2005 11:40 PM     profile     
I'm probably gonna get doused w/ gasoline,& set afire for this but I don't care. I've been in trouble before,& survived.

Bob Dylan is a GREAT songwriter,but all the fiddles & steels in the world ain't gonna help his singing voice. I have no idea what makes a song writer thinks that,just because they can write 'em...they can sing 'em too.
Another couple of prime examples are Kris Kristofferson & Bill Anderson. GREAT song writers,but I wouldn't walk across the street to hear 'em sing,for free!!
Just my "humble" opinion.

(flame away)

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Jimmy Youngblood
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From: Verdi Nevada USA

posted 21 February 2005 01:05 AM     profile     
Ditto!
Kevin Hatton
Member

From: Amherst, N.Y.

posted 21 February 2005 01:11 AM     profile     
Smiley, you're right on. What ever singing ability Dylan ever had (which was minimal) is now gone and he's just embarrasing himself. I thoroughly agree with you that most song writers can't sing well.
Bob Watson
Member

From: Champaign, Illinois, U.S.

posted 21 February 2005 02:45 AM     profile     
Bob Dylan is an American icon. Its great to hear that Donny got the gig. Congratulations Donny! I can't wait to hear you play with Bob Dylan. Too cool!
Tony Prior
Member

From: Charlotte NC

posted 21 February 2005 03:33 AM     profile     
So Smiley..does this mean if they were on the SAME SIDE of the street you would go see them sing ?

oh..and I'm pretty much in your camp on this one..but if you don't mind I'm gonna stand about 50 feet away when the Gasoline things gets going...

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[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 21 February 2005 at 07:06 AM.]

Roger Kelly
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From: Mount Carmel, TN. 37645

posted 21 February 2005 04:41 AM     profile     
Smiley....You're right on Target, as usual.
Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 21 February 2005 06:17 AM     profile     
Sure, Smiley, but would you take the gig?
Erv Niehaus
Member

From: Litchfield, MN, USA

posted 21 February 2005 07:41 AM     profile     
With twin fiddles and a steel guitar you sure don't need Dylan around to screw it up, even if he is from Minnesota!
Bryan Bradfield
Member

From: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada.

posted 21 February 2005 09:17 AM     profile     
Getting back to BR549, I'm looking forward to the possibility that we may now get to hear Chris Scruggs on steel with that group. I really enjoy Chris' steel work on his own CD.

Unlike Alvin, I don't worry about the future for BR549. Chris also brought his song-writing skills to the group on the "Tangled In The Pines" CD with the title track, and also with the songs "No Friend Of Mine", and "Honky Tonkin' Lifestyle". The latter was also the title track for his personal project.

I predict that BR549 will gain more popular ground in the future.

[This message was edited by Bryan Bradfield on 21 February 2005 at 09:27 AM.]

David Doggett
Member

From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 21 February 2005 09:32 AM     profile     
I've agreed with what Smiley said for over 40 years. Dylan is a great songwriter, decent instrumentalist and arranger, but a pitiful singer. Nevertheless, he is such an icon that it's still interesting to see him sing his own stuff, even if many other people could do it better. Of course, the college radio crowd who go to here Dylan is use to bad singing. In the singer-songwriter world, the words come first, the music second, and the singing dead last. In my experience the best singers grew up singing gospel from a very early age, or they are the rare people with lots of natural talent and great pipes to match. Most singer-songwriters come to the table late, and it shows.
Rick McDuffie
Member

From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA

posted 21 February 2005 09:40 AM     profile     
You've just got to get your head in a different place to listen to Bob Dylan. Once you do, he's fine. But he doesn't sing by the rules.
Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 21 February 2005 09:49 AM     profile     
Yeah, like Rule #1: it matters whether you sing on-key or off-key...
Smiley Roberts
Member

From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 21 February 2005 09:51 AM     profile     
quote:
... but would you take the gig?

Jim,
That would be like Spalding's,offering me $50 an hour,to make golf clubs again. The answer would be,an emphatic "NO"!
I'm sorry,but I'm not a hypocrite. I guess the money would be nice,but if you can't enjoy the job,what's the sense in taking it?

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Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 21 February 2005 09:57 AM     profile     
Fair enuf, Smiley-mon. So, if they call ya, give'em, my phone number, 'kay?
Smiley Roberts
Member

From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075

posted 21 February 2005 10:36 AM     profile     
DEAL!! (that goes for Kris & Bill too.)

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Mark Ardito
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From: Chicago, IL, USA

posted 21 February 2005 10:37 AM     profile     
I posted about the upcoming Dylan tour here in the Music section a couple of weeks ago. It is a double bill....Dylan and Haggard!

They are coming to Chicago for 6 shows.

Cheers!
Mark

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Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 21 February 2005 11:03 AM     profile     
Which poses our friend Smiley another ethical conundrum: would you take the Dylan gig just so Hag could hear ya play and maybe pick you up for his next tour? Ya never know where this could lead, Smiley-Mon... You could become a household name, like Drano, or Plumber's Choice...
scott murray
Member

From: Orange Park, FL

posted 21 February 2005 11:06 AM     profile     
So, is Larry Campbell out of the band? He has been Bob's steel/utility man for a few years now.

Does Don Herron play pedals at all?

Sounds like Dylan's trying to get in the Bob Wills mode for these Haggard shows. I can't wait.

retcop88
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posted 21 February 2005 11:22 AM           
Dylan lost his voice counting his money out loud.But he must have spent it all now he's borrowing Merles popularity to get some more.

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Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 21 February 2005 12:00 PM     profile     
quote:
Dylan lost his voice counting his money out loud
Nah, he didn't have one even when he was young and broke in the East Village...
Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 21 February 2005 12:50 PM     profile     
quote:
Getting back to BR549, I'm looking forward to the possibility that we may now get to hear Chris Scruggs on steel with that group.

Chris left BR549 last month. He is playing with Rosie Flores and working on his own project.

quote:
So, is Larry Campbell out of the band? He has been Bob's steel/utility man for a few years now.

Does Don Herron play pedals at all?


Yes and yes. Larry is doing his solo project now and Donny will be playing some pedal and non pedal.

quote:
Dylan lost his voice counting his money out loud.

I agree. I still like the way Dylan sings, but I also like the way Tom Waits sings.

Mark van Allen
Member

From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 21 February 2005 02:06 PM     profile     
I can enjoy a voice, or any instrument, for the quality of execution, and also for the emotion and "vibe". Some of the old bluesmen really move me, and they don't worry too much about things like pitch... when I was a sprout my Dad loved Dylan and the folkies, my classically trained Mom couldn't stand 'em. Every Wednesday night until I left home she would go to choir practice and Dad would spin "Highway 61 Revisited", "Cisco Houton sings Woody Guthrie" Buffy Sainte Marie, etc. Those tunes are burned into my brain and I remember really getting the emotion and and intent despite the lack of "polish". Thanks, Dad.

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Tony Prior
Member

From: Charlotte NC

posted 21 February 2005 02:36 PM     profile     
Smiley..do not listen to Jimbeaux..you could also become a household name like..


Tidy Bowl

or

Tampon

or

Ex Lax


see..it works both ways

t

Bobby Lee
Sysop

From: Cloverdale, North California, USA

posted 21 February 2005 02:45 PM     profile     
I've heard a rumor that Dylan and Hag will be touring together.
Bill Hatcher
Member

From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 21 February 2005 02:52 PM     profile     
A musician gets a gig with Bob Dylan---immediately guys start ranting about Dylan vocals. Amazing.
Dan Hatfield
Member

From: Columbia, Mo USA

posted 21 February 2005 03:59 PM     profile     
Smiley, thanks for saying exactly what I always wanted to say.
Frank Parish
Member

From: Nashville,Tn. USA

posted 22 February 2005 02:31 AM     profile     
I'd take the gig whether I like his singing or not and I'd say most of us here would too even though they wouldn't admit it. I can remember a couple of years ago how so many of these so called "traditionalists" were cutting Donny Herron to pieces because he didn't play they way they thought he should. I guess he didn't play The Way To Survive enough to suit them, who knows? My hat's off to him for getting the gig. It's nice to say you've played a great gig in your life but it's best to say you're "playing" that gig right now. It's just a step along the way. More gigs will come from it. I wonder who's the headliner on this show, Dylan or Haggard?
Theresa Galbraith
Member

From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA

posted 22 February 2005 03:41 AM     profile     
Amazing!

Have fun Donny!

[This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 22 February 2005 at 03:43 AM.]

Joe Casey
Member

From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)

posted 22 February 2005 06:21 AM     profile     
Well I'd take it even if I had to learn how to play a steel.I'd sing harmony in s# if I had too.

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Graham Lathrop
Member

From: Dallas, Boston and San Francisco

posted 22 February 2005 08:58 AM     profile     
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Jim Cohen
Member

From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 22 February 2005 09:05 AM     profile     
quote:
How many times does one man have to prove himself before people just accept him for what he is and move on?

Yes, and how many roads must a man walk down, before they can call him a man?

And how many seas must a white dove sail,...

(Oh never mind...)

(You want your coffee now, Mr. Dylan?)

Orville Johnson
Member

From: Seattle, Washington, USA

posted 22 February 2005 09:46 AM     profile     
people will be listening to and singing bob dylan songs when every member of this forum is long gone. and, as much as i love merle, dylan doesn't need anyone to sell seats to his shows. he's also an amazing singer, technically and soulfully. he is the most influential pop musician of the 20th century. he invented the singer/songwriter genre (i admit he has something to answer for there!), made it possible for pop music to be about something besides moons and junes, love and stars above, had the first radio hit that was 6 minutes long...i could go on, but i think dylan is great and i bet if you asked merle he'd agree. i hope i can get tickets to the show.
Chris Forbes
Member

From: Beltsville, MD, USA

posted 22 February 2005 10:09 AM     profile     
THE most influential? I have a hard time putting him above Frank Sinatra or The Beatles. I'm even tempted to say Woody Guthrie, who without, there would have probably been no Dylan. Sorry, not busting your chops just for the sake of busting chops, but I try to avoid using words or phrases like "always", "never", "the best", or "the worst."
Terry Edwards
Member

From: Layton, UT

posted 22 February 2005 10:53 AM     profile     
It is well documented that the Beatles credit Bob Dylan for inspiration on their songwriting.

Bob Dylan is a legend and has influenced many singer/songwriters. I personally credit Bob Dylan for giving me the courage to sing. I figured if he can get away with it, why not me! I'm not the best but I have had more fun in my semi-pro career pickin' and singin' than you can imagine.

Truth be known, Merle is probably honored to have Bob Dylan on the same bill.

Terry

[This message was edited by Terry Edwards on 22 February 2005 at 10:54 AM.]

Alvin Blaine
Member

From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA

posted 22 February 2005 11:03 AM     profile     
I never envisioned this turning into a Dylan love/hate fest.

I just wanted to publicly congratulate Donny with landing a gig, playing steel and fiddle, on a major tour with one of the worlds most famous pop stars.

To me it seemed like it would be good news to folks on a steel guitar forum. Especially at a time when the so called "country acts" in Nashville are leaving the fiddle and steel players at home, so they can have more electric guitars, marshal stacks, drums, and synthesizer keyboards on stage.

Call me crazy, but I would rather RUN across the street to hear a Dylan with fiddles and steel as opposed to some pretty boy/girl Nashville singer with a stage set up that looks like a Styx's concert from 1980.

Now on another note(a sad one),I just heard a rumor that Merle has Lupus. I'm praying that this is not true, has anyone else heard anything about it.

[This message was edited by Alvin Blaine on 23 February 2005 at 12:27 AM.]

Graham Lathrop
Member

From: Dallas, Boston and San Francisco

posted 22 February 2005 11:19 AM     profile     
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Charles French
Member

From: Ms.

posted 22 February 2005 12:11 PM     profile     
Yea, let one person make a derogatory comment and everyone's quick to jump on the band wagon. "He can't sing, he has no talent, he needs Merle to fill the seats. He wouldn't be nowhere if it wasn't for Woody" jeeezee!

I'm sure Merle is not touring with Dylan out of pity. I just hope you Merle Fans/Dylan bashers never get the chance to express your opinions to Merle. He probably wouldn't be impressed with your narrow-minded-ness.

Interviewer & Ramblin Jack Elliott

Interviewer-> Ramblin Jack, how do you feel when people say you sound like Bob Dylan?

Ramblin Jack-> Puffs on a joint and says " Funny, I been sounding like Dylan for 15 years"

Dylan was about 20 yrs old at the time.

Bill Hatcher
Member

From: Atlanta Ga. USA

posted 22 February 2005 12:12 PM     profile     
The Beatles got into Bob Dylan well after they were established song writers. The Rubber Soul era is the best example of the influence that Dylan had on them for a short time. After that, the drugs took over and that was the biggest influence into the Pepper period.

Funny that Dylan dug the Beatles because because he thought in the song "I Want To Hold Your Hand" that the lyrics were " I Get High" instead of "I Can't Hide". There were groups like The Byrds who seem to never shake the Dylan effect in their music.

To keep harping on Dylans' singing style is to totally miss it all.

Drew Howard
Member

From: Mason, MI, U.S.A.

posted 22 February 2005 01:16 PM     profile     
There's a lot of mean old men on this forum. Can't you be happy for Donny Herron and Elena Fremerman? Jeez.

With those stick in the mud attitudes y'all must be working constantly, right?


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