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Peter
Member

From: Cape Town, South Africa

posted 06 December 2003 06:38 PM     profile     
Wouldn't it be great if all PODxt owners would post settings they have found?
Either their own settings or settings from previous posts or from the ToneTransfer website? I'll start with a couple of great settings from David Spires and Alan Thomson.

DAVID SPIRES
============
"Goodrich Volume Pedal to POD XT.
I also use the Destination on "Direct" for all uses...
Direct Recording Setting - to Line In on my board:


Amp 28: Jazz Clean
Drive 0
Bass 10
Mid 6
Treble 4
Presence 2.5
Channel Volume 10
Reverb 5
Output 9
Cabinet 13: 2x12 Jazz
Mic 3: 421 Dynamic @ 10% Room
Compressor ON
Threshold 0
Gain +20dB
Gate ON
Threshold -90dB
Decay 22%
Delay ON
Model Stereo
Time 361ms
Offset 0%
Mix 22%
Feedback L 15%
Feedback R 0%
Post Setting
Reverb Model: Vintage Plate
Pre 80%
Decay 50%
Tone 80%

I am trying the same settings for live,
into my DPC 1000 power amp and Nashville 112E
enclosures with the following adjustments:

Bass 8
Mid 4
Presence 3.5
Output 5
No Cabinet

ALAN THOMSON
==============
"Well I have used it for recording and think it’s great.
Here’s the settings."


Amp. #28 Jazz Clean,
Drive=0,
Bass=7.5,
Mid=5,
Treble=6.5,
Pres=6,
Chan Vol=9.
Cab. #16 4x10 Tweed.
FX. #53 Tube Echo set at 17 with tap tempo set fast.
Mic. 57 off Axis.

I did not use the reverb of the Pod for recording.
I added some studio reverb afterwards.
Once I have done a few live gigs using the reverb I will post again.

Hopefully there will be a library of PSG settings on the forum soon.

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Peter den Hartogh-Emmons 1978 S10 - Fender Artist S10-Remington U12-Hilton Volume Pedal-Gibson BR4 lapsteel-Guya "Stringmaster" Copy-MusicMan112RP-Peavy Rage158- -[URL=http://www.uca.co.za] My Animation College in South Africa[/URL

[This message was edited by Peter on 06 December 2003 at 06:42 PM.]

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 07 December 2003 12:25 PM     profile     
Just noticed this. I'll try to post what I've been using lately.

I'll try the ones that are posted.

I've posted some good questions and answers on the Pod Board about recording USB levels and vp questions.

If you mention you play a pedal steel they act like you've got leprosy....

Hell I've still got 4 fingers!/

EJL

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 07 December 2003 02:17 PM     profile     
Herez the ones I've been using live. Session 5 and Nvl 4 no eqs or reverbs. #5 post and pre on both.

Ouput at 9 on all Less if "noise is an "issue"

Erico Malo

This is the one I "start with" on gigs.

Blackface Lux Stock cab and mike sets
Drive 8
Bass 8.5
Mid 6
Treble 3
Pres 3
Vol 8.5
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 4.75
No Comp or gate
Delay ON Dig 153ms 0 FBk 32%mix
Mod ( off) Autopan 2.01hz 0 wave 50%mix
Stomp Compressor (off) Vetta 27 sens 85%mix

2

Ericolo

This is the "Night Life" one. Works great.

Match Chief
Drive 5
BAss 6
Mid 6
Treb 4.5
Pres 7
Vol 5
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 5.75
Mod (ON) Opto trem Speed 3.11hz wave 0 mix 50% Post con.
Delay (on) Dig same as prev
Cab/mike standard for Match Chief.


Slap Old Eric

(Or slap whoever does "That's Alright Momma" twice a night..)

Treadplate Dual
Drive 2
Bass 2
Mid 1
Treb 3
Pres 7.5
Vol 7
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 3.75
Delay (ON) Digital Stereo 150ms offset 47% fdbk
Cab 2x12 BFace condenser mic )% room


PhazEric

Kind of a change of pace for ballad stuff.

Double Verb
Drive 10
Bass 1
Mid 8
Treb 1
Pres 6
Vol 5
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 4.75
Mod (ON) Phaser 1.76hz 1%fb 41%mix pre config
Delay (ON) same as EM.
Stomp ( off) Auto Wah 90 sens 98 "D" whatever that is.. (Only good for "Chicken Truck" so far)
CAB /Mike Standard for Double verb.

There you have the first bank.

On the second one I have:

PongEric BAssman
Tiny Tuberic
Erico Softo
Leslie West. ( My leslie experiment.)

Here's that one.

Leslie West.

It's that kind of "Danny Gatton/Redneck Jazz" thing.

Double Verb
Drv 7
Bass 5
mid 8
Treb 7
Pres 5
Vol 7
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 4.00
Mod (ON) Rotary fast 23% tone 51% mix. Pre config.

Hell, here's the

PongEric Bassman.

Never fails to get a "rise" out of those "The Dance" mindless endless instrumentals..

Tweed Bassman
Drive 4
Bass 7
Mid 6
Treb 7
Pres 7
Vol 8
Rev Cavernous ( duh...) 5.75
Delay ( ON ) Ping Pong rev 0 Fdbk Offset 50% Spread 50%
Cab 2x12 Blackface 1 57 on axis 0 room.

These are working pretty well live.

I haven't found a use in the world for the gate OR the "Muffs" because they need to be IN FRONT of the friggin VP and unless you get a shortboard AND an "expression pedal" you're SOL unless you run the whole works in front of it.

Then you'd have to get a stereo VP like a Franklin and live with all the effects before it, which wouldn't work with most of them like reverb.

Let me know if you try a couple of these and what you think.

It's been a month getting them "dialed in" for live volumes and rooms.

Also I'm playing into two new shure SM57s in two separate channels panned apropriately into the pa for the auto pan and stereo effects.

Unless this thing screws up. I'm hooked. Tuner could be inline "with" the effects and models, but WTH...

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 07 December 2003 at 02:34 PM.]

Buck Dilly
Member

From: Branchville, NJ, USA

posted 08 December 2003 07:12 AM     profile     
I have modified the Acoustic (Aco) sound with my PP. I don't think my setting would work for you but try it. (I use my POD with a Vibrosonic). I also like the direct sound using the POD's compression and Fx. If I start by getting the direct sounding good through the amp, the modeled amps sound betteras well. I like the Twin and Marshall JC-45 too.
Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 08 December 2003 03:44 PM     profile     
I forget which one, but one of mine is a modified "Acoustic" I tweaked and renamed.

Post the amp models and how you set it.

I'd guess that it would not have the highs boosted due to coming throug a fender.

I an going to try and match my "optimum session 500" settings where I boost everything to #6 on my dials with the sweep all the way left. It'll be interesting.

EJL

Richard Tipple
Member

From: Ohio, USA

posted 08 December 2003 08:43 PM     profile     
Have a question here fellas,,
Ive never used or even listned to the POD xt in use.
How does it stack up against other effects processors for use with say a NV400 in a live show.
Also I have read that the Pod has somthing like 30 or so amp simulators,,,are they quality sounding simulations??
Overall,,how do you rate the POD for pedal steel??
Thanks fellas
Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 08 December 2003 10:35 PM     profile     
I haven't used the Behringer V Amp, which is a cheaper one without USB and other little things.

The first one I saw close up Live was Gary Morse with Dierks "what was I thinking" Bentley at a large local truck stop at a show our band opened for.

He used two Nvl400s. One on each side and played through an xt. I didn't ask him at the time what model config he used, but it sounded very 'fenderish" to me.

I got one a month and a half ago, and it took a little while to dial it in.

It has many more "models" than a Steel PLayer would ever use.

I have it between about 4 tube amp models, a couple reverbs, and the delays. 8 preset channels so far. Most listed above. Auto cycling stereo pan. phasers, are all perfect. Not all are stereo. The reverb isn't. No line noise or hiss to speak of, and all effects are 24bit repros. I wouldn't know the diff between that and 16 myself..

I attach it to the right rear leg, and can switch amp models easy as reaching down and tapping a button with the presets. If I improve one for room or band conditions, I punch the easy "save" button, and use it the rest of the night.

A couple of them I can call up with the same amps, speaker, mike sets with different things "on" like tremolo, and a but less edge, more reverb, etc for "Nite Life" and one with less verb, no other effects and lots of "tin" for Old timey country.

The drawbacks:

The compressors AND the overdrives are NOT available BEFORE the Volume pedal unless you get a foot board and an extension to their volume pedal. Otherwise they are AFTER the VP, where they're basically not easy to control. Especially the overdrive "fuzz" boxes. I'm not a fan of compression. but it seem's easier to "dial in" on the job for level etc using it after the VP.

ALSO the "In Line Tuner" when pressed, either mutes the out signal OR you can hear it without any of the processor effects. It's not like a korg that can be on all the time while playing a processed signal. I kind of miss that when playing a single not against a guitar or vocal and glance at the korg to "see if I'm right".

I've played through Fenders before and to me I can get that "tube" edge, with all the 500 watts of the two Peaveys. The Stereo is tremendous, and I record cleanly thru the USB. NO noise when I mike my amps which makes the soundman happy. You have to remember to tell him to pan each channel to a different side if you want it to sound the coolest.

Considering all the things that it DOES do well, the USB, the fender models, and ease of switching instantly make me give it a good strong B+. I was always a D student myself..

400 bucks is a good price for it.

I don't regret buying it in the least.

I recommend it over the other things I've tried like the Deltafex, RV3. Other processors like the Boss, or Genesis I haven't tried. A search for Pod xt will yield some good comparisons my those with multiple experiences.

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 09 December 2003 at 11:10 AM.]

Richard Tipple
Member

From: Ohio, USA

posted 09 December 2003 09:25 AM     profile     
Eric
Thanks a million for the time and your opinion
Richard
Andy Zahnd
Member

From: Plaffeien, Switzerland

posted 09 December 2003 12:20 PM     profile     
as a fan of the Xt I will post a few patches I play with soon, but sorry, will be in England from Thursday on and back on Sunday.... maybe i will find the time monday night! But I find out, that what ever you're using.... first the pick up make a huge diffrence, second...... whatever...it's still in your hand.... and I'm still fishing...
David Doggett
Member

From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

posted 09 December 2003 03:49 PM     profile     
Well, I've been trying a POD XT with a NV 400. The models for Twin Reverb and tube preamp sound good, as do some of the other amp models such as the Tweed Deluxe and Bassman. But they only sound good up to moderate volumes, then everything starts sounding like the Peavey (which I also like okay up to moderate volumes, but not at high volume).

Maybe two NV 400s like mentioned above would work better. My take is that to really get the amp models sounding right at high volume for pedal steel you need a very powerful hi-fi system, like a 400 watt power amp with full range PA type speakers with horns. Since the main thing I was after was the Twin Reverb sound but louder, I decided the cheapest and simplest approach was to just buy another old Twin and play through Twin Twins. Sure they are heavy, but one is broken up into a head (actually a Vibrasonic) and a 15" cab. If I need the other one, it's because the guys I am playing with are so young and LOUD (gasmoneyweb.com - that's not me on any of those tracks yet), so I intend to make them carry the sucker in and out.

But the POD has really good reverbs (around 15 different ones) and stomps, and every other effect you could ever want. And I can set it beside me to control (hey, Eric, how do you attach yours to the leg?), and have it run dual mono to the two amps back out of reach behind me (it does some stuff stereo, but I'm not really into that). I guess it would be cheaper and lighter to have two NV 400s, but my loud group is into vintage gear, and a stack of old Twins looks sweeter than Shania's belly button.

But playing the POD through a tube amp is trickier than through a clean solid state amp. The settings are completely different, and I haven't worked them all out yet. Running a tube model into a tube amp doesn't sound good without a lot of tweaking. When I run the POD into a Twin, I currently run it in by-pass mode as far as the amp models go, and just use the reverbs and stomps. Unfortunately, the POD EQ controls don't work on by-pass mode - big mistake on their part.

Oh, and the POD tuner sucks. It really drifts on anything lower than about the 5th string. So for my uni I have to bring along earphones, which conveniently plug into the POD, and tune the lower strings by ear. I guess I could plug in my Boss tuner, but I kind of like pulling the amp connections out of the POD and tuning up and playing some warm up licks with my earphones. It almost makes it look like I know what I'm doing. But then we break into the first song and that illusion is shattered, along with various pieces of glassware throughout the room.

And, Eric, I don't care if Segovia didn't use his finger nails. Manitas de Plata does. And he is to Segovia like Hendrix is to Wes Montgomery, like Ornette Coleman is to Grover Washington. Okay, now I'm rambling. Gotta go.

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 09 December 2003 07:17 PM     profile     
Hmm. I've got quite a bit of headroom on just the 400, and I've noticed good tube sound up to clipping volume, but then I'm not sitting in front of it. At my better gigs I always mike both and pan each to each side. I will check it out this thurs.

I've always liked my " in line" Korg DT3 and can put it in line again if I need to . I haven't noticed the pod one dipping out with the bypass and a good strong signal with the pedal down.

I'd still go for the belly button I'm afraid...

I LOVE that auto pan in stereo and the "ping pong" one set long and wide drives them nuts when I power out a bunch of mindless crap in those out of control rock things our tele player throws at me. I did the 8675309 sig lick that way with no warning and it came out a psychedelic stew. Blew them away.. I figure "fair is fair"...

I'm going to try overdriving the twin models slightly and see if what you say happens is happening when I play the big room gig this thurs. I'll let you know.

Here's the mount I came up with. It's 3/8 galvanized pipe into a socket clamped on the leg. Works great, and I can swivel it under on breaks and such.

OH. and those little rubber teat cleats that hold it on the bracket need to be glued into the bracket with super glue good and sloppy and pressed hard a few times. Haven't had one pop out yet. I don't screw it onto the bracket as I carry the bracket seperately and stick the pod in my briefcase, ( padded).

Like I said, considering the USB, the reverbs, stereo, and recording versatility I'd still give it a B+

Let me know what you come up with.

EJL

I know... some of those old guys were SOOO picky about technique..

Reminds me of Pedal Steel Players...

If My old cuban teacher thought I'd ever put a guitar on my right knee he'd have had a stroke...

Yesterday's Fernando Sor is today's Dime Bag Darrel.....

So it goes.

EJL


[This message was edited by Eric West on 09 December 2003 at 08:36 PM.]

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 31 December 2003 05:30 PM     profile     
Dunno if these are the same as Pod2 settings. I've got a couple new ones, and am now using the tweed Bassman and a Tube Preamp model. I'll post them when and if I get home tonite.

H N Y

EJL

John Sluszny
Member

From: Brussels, Belgium

posted 23 September 2004 08:53 AM     profile     
"Hopefully there will be a library of PSG settings on the forum soon". Peter den Hartogh

Hello Peter.Is it on already?And where?
Thanks

Peter
Member

From: Cape Town, South Africa

posted 23 September 2004 11:27 PM     profile     
Hi John
There is no library as yet.
When I have some time, I might add some downloadable PodXT Tones to Nic du Toit's website. I'll speak to him.

------------------
Peter den Hartogh
1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4;

Internationally Accredited 3D Animation Academy

John Sluszny
Member

From: Brussels, Belgium

posted 28 September 2004 09:30 AM     profile     
Tore Blestrud
Member

From: Oslo, Norway

posted 30 September 2004 01:02 AM     profile     
Bought one yesterday. When playing live with Peavey amp(s), where is it best to put it, in the INPUT, POWER AMP IN or......?
Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 22 April 2005 06:06 PM     profile     
Bumped for Rick Schmidt.

Since I have downloaded the later 15" speaker model, and I tink I like the layout a little better than the original, but I can always switch.

BTW, I've found that the new readout panel setup works well for the "gate" setting, and I use it a lot. No noise at on stage when eveybody's looking around for a "buzz".

I'm using the Tweed Bassman amp model on my most played channels. I like the warmth and good bottom. The Blackface, and Twins seem a bit thin. The Stereo Chorus model seems eq-shifted out of my range of liking, and some of those old amp models plain suck, ( not that suck doesn't sell sometimes..)

EJL

[This message was edited by Eric West on 22 April 2005 at 06:39 PM.]

Jack Stoner
Sysop

From: Inverness, Florida

posted 23 April 2005 03:24 AM     profile     
Here is the link to mine. They are in a downloadable form and can be loaded via the Line 6 Edit program.

I've posted the link before and have several reports of those using them.
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jstoner1/podxt.htm

Tommy Dodd
Member

From: Kennesaw, Ga., USA

posted 24 April 2005 04:21 PM     profile     
For those of you POD XT users that might not have seen the mounting bracket I've designed here's a link click here . Pardon the shameless plug but I like using the POD XT and having it at my finger tips all the time makes it even more fun and useful.
Jon Light
Member

From: Brooklyn, NY

posted 24 April 2005 04:27 PM     profile     
Your plug is deserved, Tommy D. When I was running my Pod 2.3 I put together a rig that I was real proud of and pleased with. I was glad to show it to others here on the forum. Then you showed your rig here and without a doubt if I were still using the Pod (or if I break down and get the XT) I would get your product. A great looking solution!
Scott Denniston
Member

From: Hahns Peak, Colorado, USA

posted 24 April 2005 04:31 PM     profile     
Tommy, Does the mount fit a POD2 as well? I don't have the XT yet. Eric's looks good too (to a plumber maybe)!
Tommy Dodd
Member

From: Kennesaw, Ga., USA

posted 24 April 2005 04:47 PM     profile     
Scott,

I am told that Line 6 has used the same kidney-shaped aluminum housing for all 3 POD series units (ie., the original POD, POD 2.0, and now the POD XT). I have tested the bracket with an original and it works the same. If someone specifically wants to order it to be used on a POD 2.0 I will verify it works before I would ship one out.

BTW, does anybody know what happened to Billy McCoy. He was employed by Line 6 and posted here on the forum many times but not for a while. And his profile email is not working. Anyone know how to get in touch with him?

Eric West
Member

From: Portland, Oregon, USA

posted 24 April 2005 04:58 PM     profile     
Scott.. I ditched mine after I started developing Plumbers' Crack™..

Actually the ones posted lated looked really slick.

I just don't like having it out there shaking around looking like a star trek control panel..

For now, it's on my anvil briefcase sitting on end..

EJL

Tim Harr
Member

From: East Peoria, Illinois

posted 24 April 2005 07:01 PM     profile     
I have the TD PODxt bracket.

I position mine low on the the right rear steel leg and have it turned in towards me positioned in the same manner as my rack used to be. This way it is not "extended" out in an "appendage-like" fashon...if that makes any sense.

Love the PODxt!

Tim

Scott Denniston
Member

From: Hahns Peak, Colorado, USA

posted 24 April 2005 08:59 PM     profile     
Eric, I was thinking along the same lines but with black pvc. I like Tommy's though...more POD less bracket. Anyway hope we haven't hyjacked the tone library thread. I'll be off the road permanantly in about a month or so with much more time to play with this stuff. I've got some plans for the POD with a LOOPER and my other stuff. Who knows though I might end up tossing it all & playing that Bud through an amp.
Rick Schmidt
Member

From: Carlsbad, CA. USA

posted 24 April 2005 11:43 PM     profile     
Ok back to the thread.

I havn't seen too much here about the new 15" supro "Thunderbolt" cabinet model. Has anybody started using that instead of the 2-12 models for steel? Any thoughts?

I wish they'd add a D-130!

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