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Topic: Session 500 - a painful divorce - advice needed
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 09:43 AM
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*edit - new pics further down in threadOk, I'm only in my mid 30's and I'm already tired of lugging the 500 around, but it sounds so amazing and the reverb and phaser effects are some of the best I've heard. So I think it's time the amp and speaker went their seperate ways - with frequent visitations, of course. Anyone have a good source for or recommendations about splitting the head and speaker into 2 cabinets? Thanks much.
[This message was edited by John Poston on 09 June 2005 at 08:27 AM.] [This message was edited by John Poston on 09 June 2005 at 08:28 AM.] |
Ricky Davis
Moderator From: Spring, Texas USA
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posted 18 April 2005 10:01 AM
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Yes; Rick Johnson is your man for that job.
You can see ALL info and pictures what he did for me and his email; at this link here> http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/006626.html
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Marty Pollard
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posted 18 April 2005 10:02 AM
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...the reverb and phaser effects are some of the best I've heard.
DUDE!?!
The locker room at the YMCA has better reverb!
And the PHASER???
We could export this to France as an example of American CHEESE!And don't EVEN get me started on the 'string effect'! Seriously, you need to make a trip to a music store. |
Jack Stoner
Sysop From: Inverness, Florida
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posted 18 April 2005 10:27 AM
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Well, I've always thought the phase was one of the better ones around for Pedal Steel. I can't say much for the string effect and the reverb is typical of a Peavey. As far as the general amp, personally, it was the best steel amp that Peavey made. I lugged one around for 15 years. |
Marty Pollard
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posted 18 April 2005 10:30 AM
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Oh, definitely LOVE mine.
Even more so after the mod!
But outboard effects are the way to go. |
Bob Metzger
Member From: Waltham (Boston), MA, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 11:08 AM
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Aaahhh Viva la difference! It's what makes the world go 'round. What a boring place this would be if we all agreed on everything.Bob M. |
Brad Sarno
Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 18 April 2005 02:08 PM
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Well if you like the phaser in the S-500, and I do too, it's based around (or directly copied from) an Electro-Harmonix Small Stone Phaser which is widely available as a pedal. At least that's what I've been told, and the sound does seem to be the same last time I checked. I think it's one of the better sounding guitar (or steel) phasers. Check for an old Small Stone or an Electra Phaser pedal which is actually a Small Stone with different brand name printed on it. Same phaser and cheaper. Overall a smart move. That amp is just too heavy for a human to lift too many times. The back is a terrible part of the body to injure. Brad Sarno |
John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 18 April 2005 03:39 PM
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Thanks for the info, Ricky - I've sent him an email for info.
Also, if anyone has another referral closer to Chicago, I'd love to know.Brad - looks like you better come with me when I take that trip to the music store. |
Marty Pollard
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posted 18 April 2005 05:53 PM
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Well, maybe it's just phase shifting in general that sounds cheesy. |
Donny Hinson
Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.
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posted 18 April 2005 07:39 PM
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Try a Stereo Chorus 212 (with a mod). It's got good power (130w/channel), great chorus, and a decent set of digital 'verbs and slaps. It's also about 25 pounds lighter than the 500! |
John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 19 April 2005 11:57 AM
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State any opinion on here and you're bound to start a little controversey.My girlfriend and I were playing a show together a couple weeks ago and I laid into the phaser pretty heavy on one tune and she shot me some funny looks. I told her your comments, Marty, about the onboard effects and she thought they were extremely funny. I respect where you're coming from and I think she does even more.  Still taking and considering all referrals for the impending breakup. Thanks. |
Tony Palmer
Member From: Lincoln, RI USA
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posted 19 April 2005 12:43 PM
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I split mine up a few years ago.
It came out great, but the funny thing is, the head is still so damn heavy, I still don't take it out on gigs....even minus the speaker it's a back breaker.
It's actually worse now, because you have to carry the head, whereas you could wheel the whole amp before. |
Terry Sneed
Member From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA
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posted 19 April 2005 02:51 PM
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Hey guys, I have a session 500rd. I hate to sound dumb, but how do you use the phaser? How do you set it. I love this amp for steel.Terry ------------------
Mullen D10 /8x5 / session 500rd/ American Strat Highway 1 model
steelin for my Lord |
Jim Peters
Member From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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posted 19 April 2005 03:02 PM
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Two words-Nashville 112... or is that three??
JP |
Marty Pollard
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posted 19 April 2005 05:04 PM
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Terry, turn both knobs all the way to the left then remove them.
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Jim Bates
Member From: Alvin, Texas, USA
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posted 19 April 2005 06:59 PM
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For the phaser, I set Color at 7 and rate around 5 or 7 depending on the song played. I only use the phaser once in a while for effect. The String Effect only works fairly well when using the three cable hookup. Since I don't do that, no string effect.I have tried many other amps through the years (yes, even the Nash. 112) and I do not like them. None ever compared in smoothness, overall sound quality, and power in comparison to my 500's with the JBL E 130 in them. The reverb is great!
Very clean and clear - what I want. Different strokes for different folk. Thanx,
Jim |
John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 09 June 2005 08:26 AM
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I got the cabs back from Rick Johnson yesterday. They're beautiful.
The head weighs 44 pounds and the speaker weighs 33 pounds.
Thanks for the referral Ricky.
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Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 09 June 2005 08:43 AM
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*[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 05 April 2006 at 04:32 AM.] |
jim milewski
Member From: stowe, vermont
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posted 09 June 2005 08:51 AM
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very, very nice!! |
Mike Archer
Member From: Church Hill, Tennessee, USA
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posted 09 June 2005 11:25 AM
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i have to agree with JIM PETERS
NASHVILLE 112 IS A LOW WEIGHT
GREAT SOUNDING STEEL AMP
I ALSO LIKE THE EVANS SE150
I HAVE ONE AND IT TO IS LOW IN WEIGHT
AND SOUNDS KILLER!!
I HAD A 500 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS YOUNGER AND ITS JUST TO DARN HEAVY FOR ME
SAVE YOUR BACK WHILE YOU ARE YOUNG
TAKE IT FROM ME I HAVE HAD BOTH KNEES
REPLACED AND MY BACK IS GONE FOR GOOD
AND I AM DISABLED I USE TO LIFT
PA GEAR AND BIG AMPS AMD NOW AT 53
MY BODY IS WORN OUT |
Darvin Willhoite
Member From: Leander, Tx. USA
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posted 09 June 2005 11:44 AM
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Man that is really nice. I never move my 500, it stays put in my studio, but I still may split it up just in case I do want to move it around. I like the two-piece concept because it is much easier to try different speakers and combinations of speakers. ------------------
Darvin Willhoite
Riva Ridge Recording
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Andrew Buhler
Member From: Maryland, USA
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posted 09 June 2005 12:19 PM
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Sweet! I just had Rick build a head cab for my Session 400 to match the 1x15 cabinet he made for me earlier this year. Top notch work. I love the flexibility of grabbing the Session or my Dual Showman Reverb whenever I want. The Session 400 head seems so light now! |
John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 09 June 2005 01:39 PM
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Gene,LOL - yea I started getting some back trouble out of nowhere and I got worried. I'm amazed you toughed it out until 70 - just another reason you guys think my generation is a bunch of panty-waists.  |
Gene Jones
Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA
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posted 09 June 2005 06:57 PM
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*[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 05 April 2006 at 04:32 AM.] |
Al Terhune
Member From: Newcastle, WA
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posted 09 June 2005 10:03 PM
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who gives a crap about the sound or even the weight...where the heck's the Peavey logo, man? |
Billy Carr
Member From: Seminary, Mississippi USA
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posted 10 June 2005 01:27 AM
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Had three 500's over the years. Great sound for steel. Just the weight. NV-112 goes with me when I travel around to play. |
Rick Johnson
Member From: Wheelwright, Ky USA
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posted 10 June 2005 04:29 AM
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Thanks for all the kind words, there
are a lot of guys making cabs right
now. I do the best I can on each cab.
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Rick Johnson
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John Poston
Member From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 10 June 2005 12:53 PM
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Sometimes these faceless words miss the intent. Gene, I know you were just having some fun with the 'throwing in the towel' statement - I thought it was funny so I ran with it a little farther. I certainly didn't feel insulted or offended by anything you wrote. You're one of my favorite people around the forum.As far as the Peavey logo (when I was a kid I always thought it said PeNey), I'm deciding whether to move that over, or keep it with the original cabinet which I'm thinking of passing along. I almost feel sacreligious already having the fender style grillcloth instead of black Everyone in my band was very impressed with 'the monster' at the gig last night. I almost called it 'the beast' but that's reserved for the D10 Emmons. |
Jon Light
Member From: Brooklyn, NY
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posted 10 June 2005 01:05 PM
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That's real spiffy looking. I am also a very happy Rick Johnson client. It's neat to see the results of the cosmetic hybridization between the Peavey face panel and the Fenderesque cabinet. |
Russ Wever
Member From: San Diego, California
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posted 10 June 2005 01:05 PM
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I hoisted my Session 500 around until my 70th birthday
Gene -
to borrow a phrase from Bobby Caldwell,
" I wanna grow up to be just like You" ~Russ
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Darrell Owens
Member From: Norco, California, USA
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posted 10 June 2005 10:36 PM
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I have what may be one of the first Session 500 amps. It was originally sent to Zane Beck direct from Peavey and Zane let me have it. I love that amp. I have played it for PSG as well as lead guitar. I agree, it is heavy, but that is why God made wheels.------------------
Darrell Owens
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