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Bill Hankey
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From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 06:47 AM     profile     

Pervading deleterious pessimism is a profound encumbrance to progress in musical terminology. The desire to maintain a captivating interest in the steel guitar, would suffer drawbacks, which constitute hindrances in the learning process; if so affected.
Ron Sodos
Member

From: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

posted 19 October 2006 07:25 AM     profile     
whatever that means!
Wally Taylor
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From: Hardin, Kentucky, USA

posted 19 October 2006 07:45 AM     profile     
UH...........OK.
Ray Minich
Member

From: Limestone, New York, USA

posted 19 October 2006 08:06 AM     profile     
I had that problem. then I found Prozac...
Terry Edwards
Member

From: Layton, UT

posted 19 October 2006 08:08 AM     profile     
Your right, Bill.

Accordian players years ago would get together and discuss these same issues on weekends they should be gigging!!

I've never said this before but I have to confess that I am pessimestic. As a student of the pedal steel guitar, I look at all the instruction material available from professional steel players and 90% or more of it is based on music from past generations. Teachers in the steel guitar industry are not teaching anything new and continue to use old songs and provide tracks to songs made famous decades ago. Now I have to say that there is a demand for this stuff or it would not be available. And I personally buy and use much of it. I love those old songs.

But many of us are playing in the past so what does that say about the future?

A re-surgence of classic country music would be a welcome change .... but don't hold your breath.

Of course none of this applies to those that play Jazz and understand the difference between Jazz, Smooth Jazz, Chunky Jazz, Real Jazz, Be-bop, and Be-bop-alula.


Terry

Terry Wood
Member

From: Marshfield, MO

posted 19 October 2006 08:27 AM     profile     
It don't mean a thang, ifin' it ain't got some swang,and alittle twang! Amen!

Seriously, breakground, charge into new fields to encounter and who knows what lies just beyond the imagination!

Creative and Artistry! I like to think that the Whole World is a Colorfield! Be colorful and enjoy your steel!

May GOD bless!
Woody

Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 08:44 AM     profile     

Terry,

I appreciate the input on the subject of pessimism. Rascality seems to rear its head at intervals, necessitating taking a deep breath. Those who practice resisting constituted authority will eventually become subdued by effectual changes for the better. The positive outlook wins out in everyday life, whether or not it is shared by close associates.

A. J. Schobert
Member

From: Cincinnati OHIO WHO DEY???

posted 19 October 2006 08:45 AM     profile     
Terry I agree totally with I am so tired of playing old song's that I never grew up with, If I would go to a night club and play these old songs in learning material, either I would have to leave or the crowd would Why can't instructors put out "how to play Alan Jackson" or Gearge Strait, that stepping stone music is on the right track I only wish there where more!!!
Dick Wood
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From: Springtown Texas, USA

posted 19 October 2006 09:09 AM     profile     
Don't ya just hang on his every word.

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Ward Skinner
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From: Mission, TX

posted 19 October 2006 09:49 AM     profile     
Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny.

That's all I got to say 'bout that.

Terry Edwards
Member

From: Layton, UT

posted 19 October 2006 10:12 AM     profile     
quote:
Rascality seems to rear its head at intervals...

Bill, Rascalism, practiced by well seasoned Rascals, unfortunately does result in occassional Rascality creeping into otherwise serious discussions on the forum.

Some of these Rascals are quite intellegent and are authorities on Jazz music!


Terry

Stephen Gambrell
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From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA

posted 19 October 2006 10:15 AM     profile     
Bill,
Good to see you back posting on the Forum! Your nonsensical wordfests, along with your obvious sense of humor, have been missed Do well, sir, do well!
Chris Schlotzhauer
Member

From: Colleyville, Tx. USA

posted 19 October 2006 10:15 AM     profile     
Bill are you for real? Are you trying to impress someone with that jiberish? Or do you just live on another planet?
Darvin Willhoite
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From: Leander, Tx. USA

posted 19 October 2006 10:58 AM     profile     
That vociferation is a little to copious for my diminutive comprehension.

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Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 11:48 AM     profile     

Please, before allowing persnicketiness to slip into the arena, try to contain the verbosity for a few moments. At least allow me to suggest locating a copy of "The Old Master", RED FOLEY singing, "How's The World Treating You", featured on Decca Sterio Label # DL75154. Listen carefully to the chord changes. Compare the changes with the excellent recording as a duet by Alison Krauss and James Taylor. It would be of great interest to me, if you should comment on both recordings. Try to slip back in time, where the "good stuff" waits to be revived.

Dave Zirbel
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From: Sebastopol, CA USA

posted 19 October 2006 12:21 PM     profile     
Where's my dictionary?
Bill Terry
Member

From: Bastrop, TX, USA

posted 19 October 2006 12:21 PM     profile     
I've decided I like trying to understand Mr. Hankey's posts much better than reading about Jazz...
Jon Jaffe
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From: Austin, Texas

posted 19 October 2006 12:54 PM     profile     
I will not comment because inhabitants of domiciles of vitreous formation should not perform jactitation with lapidary fragments. Does this mean that he walks to school or buys his lunch?
Joe Miraglia
Member

From: Panama, New York USA

posted 19 October 2006 12:59 PM     profile     
Bill Hankey--How do you like steel guitar and country music,and use dem big wurds?
Terry Wood
Member

From: Marshfield, MO

posted 19 October 2006 02:15 PM     profile     
Play what you want to play but play with taste, in tune and with heart. Then you will be in company with the Giants of Steel!

I am all for adventuring into new venues. That's why I jumped to a 14 stringer 22 years ago and started listening to guys like Julian THarpe, Zane Beck, Bobby Black, Bob White, Curly Chalker, not your usual Nashville Sounds. Don't get me wrong I like Nashville playing but I like to hear all sorts of things. THese guys wore their own kinds of hats.

Terry Wood

Jim Cohen
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From: Philadelphia, PA

posted 19 October 2006 02:20 PM     profile     
Personally, I think that the obverse of the converse of the heat of the meat of the flick of the rib of rubber runup would have the following effects to the following objects when used in a conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular professional care: a window shade, a donut hole and an ice cream cone. And furthermore, after overcoming one's inability to project oneself in such a fashion as to inobstrusively protect the inequitable laws of nature, the processes as we know them are thereby reversed. Artichokes are good for your heart.
Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 02:25 PM     profile     

Joe M.,

Criticism inhibits the free flowing of thoughts that are relevant to a particular subject. Try not to deprive the inquisitive personages. Instead, help them to explore beyond common reaches. BTW, Steel guitars, country music, and friends who share pleasures of the like, "make my day."

James Morehead
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From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA

posted 19 October 2006 02:38 PM     profile     
Bill just talks that way because he does not want anyone to know he's secretly a redneck.
Jeff Lampert
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From: queens, new york city

posted 19 October 2006 02:51 PM     profile     
The thing I find most interesting is that no one really can imitate Bill H. The reason is that, it's the style and flair that make it work, not just the big words.

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Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 03:11 PM     profile     

Jim Cohen,

I hope all is well with you. Thanks for the humor. You are an all-time favorite for your gentlemanly demeanor, and musical abilities with the steel guitar. Not once have I found a chink in your professional presentations. Thanks for showing how to get the job done.

[This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 19 October 2006 at 03:14 PM.]

John McGann
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From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA

posted 19 October 2006 03:17 PM     profile     
Self criticism in small doses is healthy and vital. Too much will "choke a cat" as Wes Montgomery would say.

Let's strive, as in Bill's example, to eschew obfuscation

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Darryl Hattenhauer
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From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA

posted 19 October 2006 03:18 PM     profile     
Buddy Bill,

Are you living downwind from Squirmin' Herman's old house?

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Colm Chomicky
Member

From: Prairie Village, Kansas, USA

posted 19 October 2006 03:43 PM     profile     
Reminds me of the old TV series "Kung Fu"

Remember Master and Weed Hopper?

Master: "If we have the wisdom to learn, all may teach us their virtues. From the crane we learn grace and self-control. The snake teaches us suppleness and rhythmic endurance. The praying mantis teaches us speed and patience. And from the tiger we learn tenacity and power. And from the dragon we learn to ride the wind. Life sustains life and all living creatures need nourishment. Yet, with wisdom the body learns to sustain in ways that all may live."

I am but Weedhopper, Bill is Master !

[This message was edited by Colm Chomicky on 19 October 2006 at 03:44 PM.]

Dr. Richard Buffington
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From: Arizona, USA

posted 19 October 2006 04:30 PM     profile     
[ conscientiouly applied program of oral hygiene and professional care ] is the only thing I completely understand in this whole thread. Dick
Jim Sliff
Member

From: Hermosa Beach California, USA

posted 19 October 2006 04:44 PM     profile     
"...Weed Hopper..."

"GRASSHOPPER!"

Not "Weedhopper"....

But otherwise, yes, the symbolism has a certain flair to it that's similar.

Far better than a thread opener merely interjecting an influx of verasimilitude into an otherwise bald and haughty narrative.

Terry Edwards
Member

From: Layton, UT

posted 19 October 2006 05:05 PM     profile     
Bill's choice of words, cadence, rhythm, color, and juxtaposition are unique.

I especially enjoy the way he writes outside, and skirts around the subject matter at hand...and magically ties it together and....

...wait a minute...

...that's JAZZ!!!!

Pete Young
Member

From: Quebec, Canada

posted 19 October 2006 05:22 PM     profile     
I know the wheel fell off mine at thirty five miles an hour Made a hell of a mess
James Morehead
Member

From: Durant, Oklahoma, USA

posted 19 October 2006 05:46 PM     profile     
I may someday be fortunate enough to meet Bill in person. I don't want to hear him play the steel guitar, or check out his amp/gear/ or guitar. I just want to hear him PRONOUNCE a few of his 75 cent words!
Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 19 October 2006 10:55 PM     profile     

Terry E.,

Congratulations for the proper usage of the word UNIQUE. Every now and then, someone who should know its proper usage will say VERY unique. Of course both words are adjectives, but the real problem stems from its actual definition. Being the only one, cannot be intensified by placing very before the word unique. FWIW

James Cann
Member

From: Phoenix, AZ (heart still in Boston)

posted 19 October 2006 11:06 PM     profile     
quote:
The desire to maintain a captivating interest in the steel guitar, would suffer drawbacks, which constitute hindrances in the learning process;

. . . manifest as desultory advancement of proficiency to nugatory effect, of course!

[This message was edited by James Cann on 23 October 2006 at 09:38 AM.]

Brint Hannay
Member

From: Maryland, USA

posted 19 October 2006 11:10 PM     profile     
Confronted with grandiloquence of overweening magnitude, we must determine whether such sesquipedalian verbiage elucidates the ratiocinative potentialities of the perpetrator thereof, or, conversely, adumbrates the flocculence of that cogitator's intellectual wherewithal, or, to articulate the aforementioned conundrum more succinctly, WHAAA.....?????

[This message was edited by Brint Hannay on 20 October 2006 at 07:49 AM.]

Doug Beaumier
Member

From: Northampton, MA

posted 19 October 2006 11:56 PM     profile     
quote:
Pervading deleterious pessimism is a profound encumbrance to progress in musical terminology.

...A negative attitude makes it hard to learn music.

quote:
The desire to maintain a captivating interest in the steel guitar, would suffer drawbacks, which constitute hindrances in the learning process; if so affected.

...It’s hard to stay motivated and continue learning steel guitar if you’re a pessimist.

It’s just that simple! Down with pessimism!

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[This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 20 October 2006 at 12:06 AM.]

Ric Epperle
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From: Sheridan, Wyoming USA . Like no other place on Earth...

posted 20 October 2006 02:21 AM     profile     
quote:
...It’s hard to stay motivated and continue learning steel guitar if you’re a pessimist.

It’s just that simple! Down with pessimism!


That should have been said in the first place. Just kidding..

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Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 20 October 2006 02:36 AM     profile     

Brint H.,

Thanks for the spiffy reproof, which engenders a wily repercussion within me, to take note of proficiencies that are mingled with misspelled verbiage. I stumbled briefly on your incorrect spelling of RATIOCINATIVE. Your command of the English language appears to be formidable, should one be tempted to engage you in a debate involving specific terminology.

Bill Hankey
Member

From: Pittsfield, MA, USA

posted 20 October 2006 03:31 AM     profile     

C. Schlotzhauer,

Please permit me to classify your gruff reply as having a trace of indignation. The bluntness of your inquiries, instantly reminds me, that a sudden progression into a derisive manner of contention, is thinkable, and forbids me to respond in kind. I've always felt that books and pencils were placed before us at school for a reason.

[This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 20 October 2006 at 03:35 AM.]


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