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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 02 November 2006 06:57 AM
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Here's a clip from a mid 1950's radio show. Can anyone identify this steeler for me? Whoever he is, he sure nailed this tune. I'm editing this post today (Nov. 6th) to add this excerpt from the same radio program. There have been more opinions that lean toward Bobby Garrett than anyone. Maybe this clip will help lock it down. White Silver Sands [This message was edited by Mike Headrick on 06 November 2006 at 09:53 AM.] |
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Steve Hinson Member From: Hendersonville Tn USA |
posted 02 November 2006 07:33 AM
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I don't know who it was,but it was great...was that Wills that kept going'AAAhhh"in the background?That steel player had really good technique...thanks for letting us hear that,Mike! ------------------ |
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Stephen Gregory Member From: |
posted 02 November 2006 07:44 AM
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Sounds like Bobby Garrett, maybe? |
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Herbie Meeks Member From: Arkansas, USA |
posted 02 November 2006 07:47 AM
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Sounds a lot like, Pee Wee Whitewing, with a bit of, Boot Heel Drag, tossed in Pee Wee was the Steel player at, The Old ,Tracy Gardens, dance hall, San Jose, CA, about this time. 1949,& 1950. Herbie ------------------ |
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Bob Hickish Member From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA |
posted 02 November 2006 09:19 AM
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Mike I couldn't say for sure ! But it Hick |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 02 November 2006 12:23 PM
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When I get a chance I'll convert another track or two if that would help to figure this out. I have some more material from the same radio show with the steel player backing up a singer. Anybody this good must have been a well known player. |
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Terry Wood Member From: Marshfield, MO |
posted 02 November 2006 01:33 PM
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I'm almost certain it's not Tom Brumley. Possibly Bobby Garrett playing this cut of Bud's Bounce. I bet Reece Anderson could shed some light on it. Terry Wood |
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Terry Wood Member From: Marshfield, MO |
posted 02 November 2006 01:36 PM
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I need to clarify my posting, I didn't want anyone to think that I was knocking Tom's playing. I think Tom Brumley had probably the best cut ever of this song while he was with Buck Owens. Next, I always liked Jimmy Day's version of the song too. Terry Wood |
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Reece Anderson Member From: Keller Texas USA |
posted 02 November 2006 03:35 PM
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Terry....Sorry, I don't know who that is playing, but it sounds like something Bobby Garrett would have played. |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 03:26 AM
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I'm trying to find out where the radio station was located. That might provide a clue. In the meantime, your thoughts are welcome. |
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Bob Hickish Member From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 06:22 AM
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Mike If that's not Tom ! this guy sure has tom's left foot & right hand OR vice versa Back in the 70's I spent months working BRICK |
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Drew Howard Member From: Mason, MI, U.S.A. |
posted 03 November 2006 06:48 AM
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Wow, great cut, Mike thanks for sharing! Drew ------------------ |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 06:52 AM
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The radio show was the Cal Worthington show and it was at KXLA in Pasadena. The timeframe was between 1956 and 1958. Hey! That should narrow it down to at least 500 possibilities. Ha! Bob Hickish, I think you're right about the Brumley touch. There are some similarities, but the time it was recorded makes it a little early for Tom. Maybe this guy was an early influence for him. |
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Bob Hickish Member From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 07:35 AM
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Mike I remember seeing Tom on the cousin Herb Henson show out of Bakersfiels in those days , he was hot in the 50's ! & he was playing a Bigsby . May have been pre Buckaroo days . The Cal Worthington show was out of Hunington Park on Long beach Blvd. & he had all the top country pickers on his shows . It would not have been out of reach for Tom to have been there ! If that's not Tom ! I'll buy the beer Mike !! Maybe Tom will clear this up for us . I'm sure Brick |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 07:48 AM
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Wow, Bob! You're a walking history book. Thanks for that input. Maybe Tom WILL clear it up for us. Tell you what, if it turns out to be Tom, I'll treat you to a 12 ounce "saspharilly". |
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Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
posted 03 November 2006 08:01 AM
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In the fifties I don't think it would have been Tom Brumley as he was still in Missouri then. According to his bio on the old Steel Guitar Record Club LP he came to California and went right to work for Buck Owens which would've been in the very early sixties. Southern California steel players around that time frame would've been players like, Blackie Taylor, Rex Endicott, Ralph Mooney, Billy Tonneson, Red Rhodes, Billy Mize, and others. The Worthington Dodge show usually used a band from one of the local clubs in the area for a house band. Gene Davis' band might have been on the show. He used Ralph for a while and then later Red Rhodes so it could've been either one of them.....JH in Va. ------------------ |
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Fred Jack Member From: Bay City Texas |
posted 03 November 2006 08:57 AM
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Bob, Make mine a bud. Jerry, Tom B. was in So Cal a couple of years before he went to work with Buck. He went back to Missouri and got the call from Buck and the rest is history. |
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Phillip Lee Thompson Member From: Dewey Arizona, U.S.A. |
posted 03 November 2006 09:57 AM
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Hey Gang, I believe it could have been Herb Remington out of Houston Texas. Herb always told me about Speedy West helping him (Herb) land some gigs in Herbs early picking days. I believe that both Herb and Speedy did play with Bob Wills in the early days,as did Jerry Byrd. Phillip. [This message was edited by Phillip Lee Thompson on 03 November 2006 at 12:15 PM.] |
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Brint Hannay Member From: Maryland, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 12:25 PM
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I hate to potentially reveal my ignorance, but here goes: If this was broadcast in the early or mid Fifties, could it possibly be Bud Isaacs himself? I've never heard (though I've always wanted to) his original recording of Bud's Bounce, in fact I've heard almost nothing of his playing, so I have no idea if this sounds at all like his style, but after all, the tune is his, and I've always read that "Slowly" (Bud playing with Webb Pierce) was the groundbreaking tune that introduced pedals to the world at large, in, if I'm not mistaken, 1953. And the pedal work in this cut is relatively simple. [This message was edited by Brint Hannay on 03 November 2006 at 12:28 PM.] |
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Nic du Toit Member From: Milnerton, Cape, South Africa |
posted 03 November 2006 01:30 PM
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Peter asked me to post this: "I remember hearing a very similar sounding track on an old Starday record. I think it is the one with Peter Drake on the cover and Herb Remington plays Station Break.Starday SLP-138 - Nashville Steel Guitar - Various Artists (1961). I cant remember all the names but some of the names were Pete Drake, Jimmy Day, Al Petty, Noel Boggs, Dick Stubbs, Don Helms, Little Roy Wiggins. Could it be Dick Stubbs or Jimmy Day?" ------------------ [This message was edited by Nic du Toit on 03 November 2006 at 01:36 PM.] |
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Ray Montee Member From: Portland, OR, USA |
posted 03 November 2006 07:43 PM
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WHO? Played with Bob Wills? |
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Lee Jeffriess Member From: Yucca Valley California |
posted 03 November 2006 07:53 PM
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I think it could be Billy Mize, he was certainly of that caliber, or maybe Marion Hall?. Lee |
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Jussi Huhtakangas Member From: Helsinki, Finland |
posted 04 November 2006 02:11 AM
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I'm with Lee on this one, possibly Billy Mize since it's from CA. It's definately not Bud Isaacs himself. |
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Roy McKinney Member From: Imnaha, OR |
posted 04 November 2006 04:56 AM
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Wayne Gailey was a pretty good steel picker from that time frame and was on the Cal Worthington shows with Rose Maddox. |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 04 November 2006 08:04 AM
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Well, though we don't have this guy nailed down yet, I'm learning a lot. It's great to get all these different insights into the scene and the particular period. I'm going back to my source to see if I can come up with something else. [This message was edited by Mike Headrick on 05 November 2006 at 04:13 AM.] |
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Mark Durante Member From: Illinois |
posted 04 November 2006 05:07 PM
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I'll take a stab, Billy Bowman. Was he playing pedals then or no? |
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Bob Hickish Member From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA |
posted 04 November 2006 06:16 PM
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Mike Some Trivia !! The time line of 56 0r later is a good one . |
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Herbie Meeks Member From: Arkansas, USA |
posted 04 November 2006 10:17 PM
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I'm beginning to think the steel player is none other than A Young Mlke Headrick Herbie ------------------ |
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Bobby Boggs Member From: Pendleton SC |
posted 04 November 2006 10:54 PM
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Bobby White played that good back then. He left Thomspon for a while.Pee Wee took his place. Then Bob came back and they both played for a while.Then Pee Wee left it with Bobby. I'm not sure where Bobby went when he left HT the first time. So I'll guess Bobby White. Though I wasn't aware he ever worked for Wills. |
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Mitch Drumm Member From: santa rosa, ca |
posted 05 November 2006 12:53 AM
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I would guess Billy Mize also. Not because of anything recognizable in the style, but because there is an LP called "Cal's Corral" containing performances from Cal Worthington's radio or TV show--whichever it was. Billy Mize is known to be on that LP, along with other LA types like Sammy Masters, Gene Davis, Fred Maddox, Tom Tall, Tex Carmen, Billy Armstrong, etc. |
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Al Johnson Member From: Sturgeon Bay, WI USA |
posted 05 November 2006 07:23 AM
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the only thing I'm sure of is Jerry Byrd did not play with Bob Wills band. the player on the cut is not Bud I. Al |
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les green Member From: Jefferson City, Mo 65101 USA |
posted 05 November 2006 01:33 PM
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Sounds a bit like Jimmy Day to me. |
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Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA |
posted 05 November 2006 01:56 PM
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wow.. regardless of who it was, he had ferocious chops and an impeccable inner "clock"... So many great players back then..... bob |
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Mark Williamson Member From: Texas, USA |
posted 05 November 2006 02:23 PM
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Since it was in California, I think it may be Jerry Garcia!!! |
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Bob Tuttle Member From: San Angelo, Tx, USA |
posted 05 November 2006 03:09 PM
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Herbie Meeks Member From: Arkansas, USA |
posted 05 November 2006 03:15 PM
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I dont believe that is Bob Wills Band, B Bowman did play steel for Bob Wills, and other steelers, I knew Bob White, and Pee Wee back then and the tune, and style, sure fits Pee Wee Also, could have been, B Bowman Herbie ------------------ |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 05 November 2006 03:31 PM
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Yall I could be wrong about this BUT, that sounds like Bobby Garrett to me. Maybe late fifties? Rick |
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Stephen Gregory Member From: |
posted 05 November 2006 03:59 PM
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Yes, I agree Rick.I heard some of the technique I grew up hearing on the H.T. live in Vegas L.P. |
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Mike Headrick Member From: Jasper, TN, USA |
posted 06 November 2006 09:55 AM
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check the new clip at the top of the page. Thanks, Mike H |
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Bobby Bowman Member From: Cypress, Texas, USA |
posted 06 November 2006 11:47 AM
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I think it's Moon!  ------------------ |
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