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Topic: 57 Stringmaster T8
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Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 03 January 2005 10:15 PM
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Paul Arntson
Member From: Bothell ,WA (just outside Seattle)
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posted 03 January 2005 10:28 PM
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You guys are killin' me!!
I give! Uncle!
Before I spend waaaay too much on a 24.5" double neck does anybody have such a beast available or know where to find one?
Is $1300 too much to spend on one right now?I have G-A-S syndrome bad and I'm going to have to sell off a bunch of toys after I do this, but I just can't help myself. They are just too cool! -paul |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 03 January 2005 10:54 PM
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Paul, here's a 57 Stringmaster D8 They don't specify, but it looks like a 24 1/2" scale. The asking price is a bit higher than the amount you mentioned . .Here's a Deluxe 8 single neck "Stringmaster" for considerably less . .
Here's a Blonde Stringmaster D8 - it's a beater, but the price is low . .
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Stephen Gambrell
Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 01:02 AM
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But I'M going to Nashville next weekend, I was gonna go by Gruhn's  . |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 11:23 AM
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Somebody sent me this pic of a Deluxe 8 a while back. Even though it wasn't offically named a Stringmaster by Fender it essentially is one so I thought it should go here . .
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Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 11:27 AM
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 And here's a Double 6 . .[This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 04 January 2005 at 11:30 AM.] |
Ron Brennan
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posted 04 January 2005 11:47 AM
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Jody,A follow-up to yesterday's thread...in re: to Lou Rose Music Center. Both Tony & Lou are still there. Lou out with Flu. Tony out on vacation. Dennis Kager out with Flu. Must be going through the Center. I passed on your regards through the persons I spoke with. Please be sure, when they return (soon), I will personally speak with each of them anyway, and pass on your regards,etc....... BTW....cheque is in the mail for both CD's on HCOA & Bonus A. Godfrey. Jody, have a good day & where's the book in you?.....TX
rgds, 
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"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Ron Brennan
Member From: Edison, New Jersey, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 12:03 PM
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Rick,Thank's for the pic's of the walnut D6 Stringmaster. Brings back memories of my repainted (ebony) "59" D6. Unfortunately, the Walnut really showed up ding's and scracthes. No matter, it still look's great! I wonder how many D6's were made? I guess we'll never know. All these stringmaster photos coming in from everybody are really great to see. TX
rgds, Ron ------------------
"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Jody Carver
Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed. Dodger Blue Forever
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posted 04 January 2005 12:32 PM
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How does 2,100 guitars sound to you.? This includes export and domestic.The Knight Of Fender Tweed Has Spoken.  |
Ron Brennan
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posted 04 January 2005 01:35 PM
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Jody,Stunning......if it happens....Wow!!!! It's starting to sink in....you did it!!??...TX
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"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 04:45 PM
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 This one isn't mine - it oughta be, though . .
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Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 04:51 PM
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How does 2,100 guitars sound to you.? This includes export and domestic
Jody, is that 2100 D6's or all of them?
I'm glad this came up, because I always wondered what the total number of Stringmasters is. Inquiring minds want to know . .
BTW - My payment for your CDs went out in today's mail. I even included one of my CDs in case you want to torture your neighbors [This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 04 January 2005 at 05:03 PM.]
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Jody Carver
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posted 04 January 2005 05:08 PM
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Rick
I had a ledger that belonged to the late Forrest White. Forrest was Leo Fender's right arm. Forrest gave me the ledger after
MusicMan closed its doors. Mrs White asked me
if she could have the ledger back for her memories of her late husband,to which I agreed. From what was in the ledger which was
pre CBS there were 2100 dual six guitars produced a total for domestic and export sales.I had thought many more were produced but that was the number and Forrest knew his math.Most had serial numbers and the source of who and where all merchanise was sold and shipped. Forrest White was a brilliant man but he never received the credit that was due him and he was bitter and wrote the book
"Fender The Inside Story" of which most all of his comments were on the money. So I would have to take the fact that if Forrest kept records of all production,that total I gave has to be accurate. Has Fender contacted you yet to head up the steel guitar R&D?? Be well my friend. You have to be one of the finest Fender boosters ever.Fender should be happy to have someone like yourself plugging away. I'll e mail Sam Marshall and ask him to take a look. Hey Sam..you hearing me? Can you Hear me now?
 later my Tweed friend. edited,,,Rick said... case you want to torture your neighbors...too late I have already done a musical version of Charles Manson on my neighbors.[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 04 January 2005 at 05:10 PM.] |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 05:44 PM
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Has Fender contacted you yet to head up the steel guitar R&D??
I'm still waiting for the call Jody. But they'll have to understand - if they want me, they have to enlist you as a highly paid Consultant (on your own time) with stock options, full fringe benefits, and a solid gold tone bar. |
Jody Carver
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posted 04 January 2005 06:29 PM
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Yeah Right
I have about as much of a chance of doing a replay of "On Golden Pond" playing the role
of Henry Fonda.This is a great thread. All we need now is the needle to thread the seam for the Stringmaster guitars to make a comeback. You will get the call..but I dont know what they will call you. Be well and I'm looking forward to hearing your CD with Fender Loving Care. You will find that the HotClub has cooled down after all these years. But the sound of Fender will always be there. Sam,,can you hear me now? man what a tough
sell Sam is. meanwhile bOb see's this thread and is making an appointment for us to see a "shrink". Get on line guys,there are many of us who qualify for a "shrinking". |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 06:31 PM
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Jody - so then, what would be the total number of all Stringmasters ever made??If we know that number - and then we subtract the number of Stringmasters parted out to rob their tuners because you can't get replacements - we'll know how many Stringmasters there are today.
Then if we subtract the number of Stringmasters still being played by actual Steel Guitar Players, we'll know how many Stringmasters are hanging on Collectors'Walls (MIA)
Then if we multiply that number by the percentage increase in world population since 1970 and add to that the number of steelers who have posted in this thread - we'll know how many NEW STRINGMASTERS would sell in the first year of production. I'm guessing about 6,000 to 7,000 but that could be a bit light because the number of New Steelers appears to be increasing exponentially . .
Plus, we didn't count me in that equation - I'd buy one for sure, as long as it's made from the hidden swamp ash cache . . .
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Jody Carver
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posted 04 January 2005 06:39 PM
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I think we are doing a duo here...everyone is tired out. I'll have to calculate your proposal and present it to those in command.I think you have something there..something,but I dont know what. Let me think about it for a day and I'll try to come up with a formal presentation. I'll wear my three piece suit and wing tip shoes to make an impression.
I have a great name for a re-issue but I cant post it here. I have to go,Im laughing my butt off,I told myself a dirty joke. |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 06:40 PM
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I have about as much of a chance of doing a replay of "On Golden Pond" playing the role
of Henry Fonda
That's not really so far-fetched. The script would have to be re-written to accomodate numerous steel jams and workshops, peppered with anecdotes from Fender's glory days - but I think it might just work! |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 04 January 2005 09:15 PM
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Stringmaster Blend Control Schematic
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Fender Stringmaster Early Schematic
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Ron Brennan
Member From: Edison, New Jersey, USA
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posted 05 January 2005 07:10 AM
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Had the "55" D8 pushbutton out to work last night. The sound & tone on that steel is just incredible. And, it's just about 50 years old (November 05)!!!! Not a thing, other than changing strings, has ever been done to it. What workhorse's the Fender products of that era, turned out to be. We all know that there are a lot of features on these old Fender Stringmaster's. But to me, the best feature is the Blend tone control. I am not aware of any other electric guitar, steel or straight, that has this Blend Tone Control. What a difference it makes..... Jody, thank you for the information on the number of D6's produced by Fender. I didn't think anyone would know, but you did it. Your are truly the repository of Fender information. Yes, you are The Knight of Fender Tweed. I'm sure it was and more fun than being a Jeti Knight for Starwars!! While I thought 2100 D6's produced by Fender was high, the more I think about it, that's not a lot. When you consider they went out to both the US and the International markets & world markets X 40-50 years, Geez, it's amazing there are any left. Soooo, Knight of Fender Tweed Cases, if I may be so bold as to pose a "Stupid Question", why would/did the Fender Marketing Dept (or Leo) even bother to produce Stringmaster D6's??? Especially, when they were tooled up, I assume, for D8's at (for want of a better word) the factory. And which came first, (egg vs. chicken) the 6's or the 8's? What could have drove Fender to do this? Sorry, this Serf is just curious about Fender history. As always, thank you for your help. TX
rgds, 
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"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 05 January 2005 11:13 AM
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WE ARE NOT ALONE !
We're not the only ones who love Stringmasters and can't help but admire their beauty!
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Gary Boyett
Member From: Colorado
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posted 05 January 2005 11:21 AM
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The 2100 D-6's probably would not even fill the pipeline of one per dealer today. There are Fender dealers everywhere wheras back in Jody's day there were about one per city. |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 11:50 AM
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The Dual Six Professional model with a 22/1/2 scale neck retailed at $215.00 & legs
$37.50 case $43.50...dealer cost deduct 50% off the retail above and thats the final cost to dealer. These were available in blonde or dark finish.If a dealer ordered over 200 LBS of merchandise Fender would pick up the shipping You figure the final cost I dont have a calculator dont tell anyone I disclosed these prices to you OK?
Thats the ballgame. edited for spelling.[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 January 2005 at 12:16 PM.] |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 12:15 PM
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There are Fender dealers everywhere wheras back in Jody's day there were about one per city. Very true,but a different world where dealers were loyal and worked with their customers with problems etc,,not like the mega stores where everyone is too busy to handle a customer and treat him or her the way a customer should be treated.There is an old song and it's title is...... I'd Give a Million Tomorrow's For Just One Yesterday. My friend the late Ernie Ball told me a a few years ago that if I was still in the music business as a rep, I would be taking "Prozac and Valium" It was fun back then..No more my friend. Its all in the
M O N E Y...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
Rick Alexander
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posted 05 January 2005 12:16 PM
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So $296 + tax was full retail. Warm up the WayBack Machine, Mr Peabody - We're going shopping!![This message was edited by Rick Alexander on 05 January 2005 at 12:17 PM.] |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 12:16 PM
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The Dual Six Proffesional model with a 22/1/2 scale neck retailed at $215.00 & legs
$37.50 case $43.50...dealer cost deduct 50% off the retail above and thats the final cost to dealer. These were available in blonde or dark finish.If a dealer ordered over 200 LBS or merchandise Fender would pick up the shipping You figure the final cost I dont have a calculator dont tell anyone I disclosed these prices to you OK?
Thats the ballgame. |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 05 January 2005 12:19 PM
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Our lips are sealed Jody |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 12:25 PM
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Rick writes........WE ARE NOT ALONE ! NO and the sad part is that he and I are pictured together on a mural where the old Fender factory once stood Dylan,Me,& Hendrix. Mural was painted by school children..Here I go again I hear those
trumpets blow again..taking a chance on love. I'll e mail you the Fender wall... |
Ron Brennan
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posted 05 January 2005 12:27 PM
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Rick,Man, I don't know how you found that photo, but thank you for posting.....just amazinnnn!! Jody, Thank you for for the D6 numbers,$$$. That's just about what I paid Manny's in NYC back then (16 or 17 yrs old).
I remember saving up the $$$$, took a train with a buddy from NJ to NYC..Subway and all & back to NJ with it. Still got it, warts and all (me). What a beautiful day that was.. Jody, do you remember why Fender made D6's? Gary, thank's for your post....makes sense. TX
rgds, Ron
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Rick Alexander
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posted 05 January 2005 12:34 PM
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I'll e mail you the Fender wall...
Please do! |
Ron Brennan
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posted 05 January 2005 12:40 PM
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The airline biz is the same $$$$$$$$$$That's why I go to Lou Rose music, instead of the big one's. Just like the good travel agency's, good music store's are a dying breed. I must say, I do like the people at Bobbe Seymour's and Scotty's, that's not to say there aren't good one's out there, but there are far and few in between. TX
rgds, Ron[This message was edited by Ron Brennan on 05 January 2005 at 12:48 PM.] |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 01:01 PM
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Yes you are right. Scotty thanks you and shakes your hand after the sale.Bobbe kisses you and tell's you he loves you.
Tennis anyone? Only kidding Bobbe..Love you
too. Lou Rose buys his customers a Pizza after making the sale. Dont let an Italian kiss you
on the lips..its a bad sign. "morto" which means "dead" as in mortician. & I'm not Italian..I'm from Hunger..I mean Hungary. |
Ron Brennan
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posted 05 January 2005 01:10 PM
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Knight of Fender TweedYou are too much and your right....... I give parachute's out on my flight's!!!!! TX
rgds,  Ron ------------------
"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 01:11 PM
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Jody, do you remember why Fender made D6's? Sure..less expensive and cover all the bases.
And for students whose teacher didnt teach 8 string guitar.Many Hawaiians back then took the last two strings off of a dual stringmaster and played on 6 strings. Why? who knows. Steel players are very WEIRD. Hey..I dont know the answers to all these questions..what do you think I am anyhow? Another unanswered question..Why did Leo design the Fender "Marauder"? a Strat type guitar where the pickups were located under the pickguard and you couldnt see anything but the pickguard. Why?? I dont know. It sounded great but looked very strange. Look at yourself in the mirror..do you think you look weird? I do..and its confirmed that I am really a weirdo. Speaking of weird but nice..where is HOWARD R.?? Howard where are you.[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 January 2005 at 01:14 PM.] |
Ron Brennan
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posted 05 January 2005 01:19 PM
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Thank's Jody,Fall's into the category of "who know's what evil lurks in the minds of reindeer"....TX
rgds, 
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Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 01:27 PM
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Hey
If it were not for the fun I'm having with all of you,I would be grieving badly which I do most all the time. This gives me a break to have fun with all of you. I lost my best friend a few weeks back and I know I will never ever recover that loss. But all of you
have helped me a great deal and for that I Thank you. I dont think any of you are weird.I meant that in an affectionate sense. Thanks for the laughs and I do appreciate your'e letting me particpate in this thread. I think all of you are great guys and I'm happy to call you my friends. |
Jody Carver
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posted 05 January 2005 01:46 PM
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Double Post Sorry.[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 January 2005 at 02:04 PM.] |
Ron Brennan
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posted 05 January 2005 02:20 PM
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Little story here. Years ago, I was a Steward on Eastern Airlines, working a trip from Baltimore to Atlanta and Lee Greenwood got on. Not because of him, I always tried to make people feel comfortable with corny but funny annoucements before takeoff. Started out with, "Your Flight Attendant names are Bonnie, Bubbles & Co-Co & my name is Rawhide" With that Lee busrt out with the loudest laugh of all....I did a few more corny lines and later Lee asked me if I had been in show-biz, because nobody did what I did......I told him, I was a steelguitar player, With that, Lee said loudly, and in a fun way for all to hear...."I knew it, I knew it..all you steelguitar players are weird. Never met one who was normal"....Now coming from Lee Greenwood, that made my day....he was just great the rest of the way, and invited me to a comp. show in NJ (never made it). So Knight of Fender Tweed, you made my day, I am very honored and pleased we entertain you at this time in your life.....so there, get the book goin and thanks for giving us the smiles.....TX
rgds, His Weirdness,
Ron
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"55" Stringmaster D8,"59" Stringmaster D6
"67" Telecaster,
"60"Fender Concert Amp 4-10's
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Rick Aiello
Member From: Berryville, VA USA
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posted 05 January 2005 02:43 PM
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Many Hawaiians back then took the last two strings off of a dual stringmaster and played on 6 strings. Why? who knows. Steel players are very WEIRD.
Go back and take a good look at my "Ebony" D8 ... 'Cept I take off string 1 and string 8 ... I'm dyslexic (bigtime) ... and looking down at all those strings ... well Lurch said it best ... ------------------
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Rick Alexander
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posted 05 January 2005 04:49 PM
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  Now that's the Stringmaster I'm talkin' about, Jody! Incidentally guys, the bass player if I'm not mistaken is Zeb Carver, Jody's Pop. He's also the man who really co-wrote Blue Christmas, although his name was deleted from the credits by unscrupulous people whose names we won't mention here (unless Jody wants to) The other two fellers are Tommy on Accordian and Roy on Guitar. Jody sure looks like he means business! |
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