What kind of pickups are those?
What about the switches?
What year is it?

I'm not looking to buy it. It just looked a little odd and made me curious.

I seem to remember a really early emmons that had the controls like that on the neck...
Maybe it's wraparound necks put onto a regular body, then set up by a baboon?

nice color though.

Thenk again, I could be totally off base.

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I beleive these all came with decal logos and this appears to have been replaced by an emblem

The neck controls could be indicative of this guitar originally being an Emmons Stereo guitar. (Check out pictures of #1 that were posted by Bob Knight)

The serial number indicates that it would be #10 from November of 1964

These guitars had no knee levers and consequently some owners "did their thing" when adding them.

Here is an after undercarraige shot of s/n 764005 which is in my possesion.

The serial number (W at end) indicates that this is was originally a wood neck guitar, assembled in November of 1964, also evidenced by the missing control panel in between the necks, now covered by a plate.
It was the 10th guitar serialized by the Emmons company.

Sometime in its history, the woodnecks were replaced with Emmons wraparound necks for a stereo guitar. The pickups are original Emmons with the diagonal pole pieces. Very early, I've only owned one guitar with pickups like that.

The controls in the necks were tone, volume, and neck selectors controls for a stereo guitar, though I doubt it's a stereo now. Could be, though.

It looks very similar to 1164007W and 1164008W, both of which I owned at one time and are both wood neck guitars. I still own 1164008W. This guitar has the crossbars with the shorter actuator arms, like #008W.

It probably went back to Emmons in the early 70's and had the chevron decal replaced with a logo plaque, another mistake, IMHO.

I agree that the guitar is heavily botched and probably would be time-consuming and expensive to bring back to any type of showroom condition.

An yes, there's a Sho-Bud knee lever on there. I don't know who's spinning faster in his grave, Shot Jackson or Ron Lashley.

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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 22 August 2006 at 02:01 PM.]

And that is the first Emmons changer with the half inch axle rather than 9/16ths; the cast fingers rather than stampled aluminum; and with only one leverage hole rather than three, right? I would like to have that changer on my parts shelf.

Chris

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It's good day at Sea !

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[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 28 August 2006 at 12:35 PM.]

But there's probably a rich guy out there that will say money is no object... and I know of one already.

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Herb, excuse my ignorance, I don't know what a wraparound changer looks like with wooden necks....do you have a picture?
Also, what are those two wheels sticking out of each neck in the Ebay guitar for?

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...anybody?

The wafer knobs are tone controls I believe. I've never owned or operated a stereo Emmons, it wasn't a popular design and there were probably less than a dozen made, according to Buddy. He said it seemed like a good idea at the time, but then they realized very few steel players played through two amps in those days.

When I owned 1164007W, it had original pickups and was monaural. Guitar 1164008W was totally trashed when I got it, but it was originally a woodneck stereo. It has a longer-than-normal control panel and that's where the stereo controls were placed. It had been converted to mono years earlier, but still had the "stereo" chevron decal. All the non-stereo guitars had decals with the "stereo" word cut out. This is why you see wraparounds with the "window" decals (as Ron Elliott called them).

Mike Cass needs to chime in on this thread, since almost all the info I have on these guitars came from MC, who helped me find most of my vintage horns and worked on all of them at one time or another.

I do have a series of 20 letters, correspondence between Ron Lashley and Paul Graupp from 1962 to November of 1964 that pretty much explain in first hand/real time the genesis and development of the Emmons guitar. Not covered in these letters are a lot of the design changes happened in late 64 to early 65, from some of the guitars I've seen and owned. Axle diameters, length of changer fingers, length of crossbar actuator arms, placement and spacing of holes in the endplates, etc. Things like that.

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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 29 August 2006 at 08:15 AM.]