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John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
posted 18 May 2001 09:41 PM
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Guess one man's whining/nails on a chalkboard combined with a tomcat with his tail in the screen door is another man's crooning. Ain't America great. (I knew it was baseball--I was just having a senior moment...) |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 18 May 2001 11:49 PM
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I think it proves no matter what, some of the forum members are never happy and thats what I've learned! He's a man thats made a mistake,he will and has already paid for his mistake! I wish others that have committed more serious chrimes were in jail. Theresa [This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 19 May 2001 at 12:50 AM.] |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 19 May 2001 04:25 AM
Well said Theresa,Tim Magraw may or may not be everyones favorite and he surely did not do anything but create a disturbance which would have been fined and discarded if he were a lesser publicized person. The officer in question is having back problemss and you can just see lawsuit here.Meanwhile Mcvey still breaths now that is a crime. ------------------ |
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Ed Naylor Member From: portsmouth.ohio usa |
posted 19 May 2001 06:20 AM
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Bill Cole. The BENTONVILLE ANTI HORSE THIEF SOCIETY is for real. It was formed in 1853 and is still active to the point they have a Banquet each year. Also Bentonville is the 101st Airborne Division national HDQ office.Ed |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 19 May 2001 07:00 AM
Yes the Mcvey ordeal is a crime of the woest kind. But I do not htink there was any intent to stel that horse. as far as Tim attaching the cop he should know better. He aint a little boy and the law is the law for him the same as for you or I. You let a cop stop you along the road you jump out and fight with the cop your in big trouble quick. Is it worth this big trial I think the Tax payers are doing a lot of paying for a slap on the hand. And thats all that will happen. And they will ride off in the sunset and live happy ever after. Heck every body made a lot of mistakes that day so they will all kiss and make up and go there merry ways |
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Ed Naylor Member From: portsmouth.ohio usa |
posted 19 May 2001 07:59 AM
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Maybe the Judge should make him do a benefit show at Kentucky Downs and all the proceeds go to finding what is causing the death of these newborn race horses. Ed |
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KEVIN OWENS Member From: OLD HICKORY TN USA |
posted 19 May 2001 08:48 AM
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I think a lot of people are not happy because a lot of other people keep praising mediocrity in the world of entertainment (music, singing, song writing, acting, etc....). There's a lot of amateurish stuff out there today. Kevin |
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Corwin Colebrooke Member From: Ames, Iowa, USA |
posted 19 May 2001 09:20 AM
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They should force Tim and Kenny to do free shows in places they normally don't perform. Like Ames, IA. Then I could see them without paying, lol(I'm one of the few here that's a fan of McGraw). Either that or some other form of public besmirching if they're not gonna throw him in jail. The free show tour would handle any fines that they would have to pay. |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 19 May 2001 10:06 AM
I think they should cane them. or tar and feather them and ride em out of town on a rail. or a public floggin or make all three of them learn to sing COUNTRY thats the Mrs. included. She sure does strut her stuff around the court house. |
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rayman unregistered |
posted 19 May 2001 03:20 PM
Here is the straight scoop. Two of the guys in my band were standing less than thirty feet away when this incident took place. Chesney was absolutely given permission to get on the horse. Permission to ride? No. The cops absolutely over reacted trying to get Chesney off the horse. Timmy jumped in with the road manager. The cop who got choked is acting like a real sissy and claiming all kinds of injuries. The trial is happening ten minutes away and there is much publicity. Mostly good I think showing the fans that show up every day. I'll agree that once Timmy got physical he was asking for trouble. You don't mess with a cop without clear and justafiable cause ( can't quite think of an example). It is causing publicity for country music. By the way, I also think Timmy is overrated. Ricky Van Shelton blows him and his ilk away. Just canned music. [This message was edited by rayman on 19 May 2001 at 03:22 PM.] |
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Bill Sharpe Member From: Hermitage, TN 37076, USA |
posted 19 May 2001 03:37 PM
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I'm not a fan of either performer, but I have seen them both live and they always have a steel in the band. The "trial" and charges are much ado about nothing. Give 'em both a chance to do a show with the proceeds to go to the B.P.O. or Danny Thomas' children's hospital in Memphis. ------------------ |
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Bill Sharpe Member From: Hermitage, TN 37076, USA |
posted 19 May 2001 03:38 PM
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I'm not a fan of either performer, but I have seen them both live and they always have a steel in the band. The "trial" and charges are much ado about nothing. Give 'em both a chance to do a show with the proceeds to go to the B.P.O. or Danny Thomas' children's hospital in Memphis. ------------------ |
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erik Member From: |
posted 19 May 2001 05:47 PM
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I just heard GROWN MEN DON'T CRY a little while ago while out in my car. I really liked it and i thought the music was rich and warm, not overdone. I know where that chord progression came from too. As far as the song being whiney. Well that and few hundred other classic Country songs... |
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Chris Dufrane Member From: Constable, NY, USA |
posted 19 May 2001 07:11 PM
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Well I'm not a fan of Tim McGraw, so my opinion may be biased, but thinking about all the charges that could be placed against him according to what I read in my local paper. I'd have written a college thesis in tickets. I'd like to see him do some time along with Kenny. I think Kenny will get out of most of the charges, because I guess the officers didn't tell him he could be arrested before they pulled him off the horse. I don't think a fine is the best solution, because they're all wealthy. Jail time would suit them best and turn them into an example of things you shouldn't do. Court is now adjourned |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 20 May 2001 01:10 PM
Rayman there is no good example of hwen it is alright to go after a cop. if so then lets save a lot of money and fire all the cops and go back to the old west style of getting things settled. I don't say the police are always right but they are always the police. And we pay them to protect us so let them do there job. and if you do not agree take it to court. But we cannot let this happen the way it did. I don't know who was right or who wrong but when Tim and the other fellow jumped that officer they became wrong. And if this is the way grown up stars who are suppsoe to be roll models for the kids to look up to then I'm real glad mine are grown up and already know better. Tim is a real poor excuse for father of the year |
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RC Antolina Member From: Newnan, Georgia, USA |
posted 20 May 2001 02:41 PM
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B. Cole, you said it all! Like I used to tell my kids, if you hit someone regardless of the circumsatnces...YOU'RE WRONG and no one gives a rip about the original slight and/or argument. For what it's worth under normal circumstances this altercation would be a minor offense or low misdemeanor with a fine and wrist slap. I agree with Theresa. There's far more jerks not in jail that should be for far more serious crimes. The fact that some greedy cop is setting Tim up for a law suit is niether surprising or original...and it seldom works. BTW Tim is not my favorite singer nor is he in my top 1000......RC PS: McVey? Let him live. Life in prison, solitary confinement with no human contact, tv, radio or reading materials with a 60 watt bulb burning 24-7. he'd go mad in about 90 days or less and that might be fitting. [This message was edited by RC Antolina on 20 May 2001 at 02:47 PM.] [This message was edited by RC Antolina on 20 May 2001 at 05:42 PM.] |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 21 May 2001 10:37 PM
RC your whole post is right on the money. Nuff said |
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BJ Bailey Member From: Jackson Ms,Hinds |
posted 22 May 2001 12:08 AM
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Some of Tim's stuff is ok.But what songs I've heard,that I like mostly,they do'nt and want play on the radio.Nothing against Tim,but you just do'nt put your hand's on the law,and Kenny should have known better.The real picture of this hold mess we do'nt have.Thats the reason for their day in court.O.J. has proven to the world a rap can be beat. Now as for Faith,someone mention her strutting in the courtroom.Man I would have loved to have been there so I could really get a better look at her nable,,,,, or navel,I give up ok you spell it???????WOW just think Shania might come to help moral suport that would be two female belly butten to look at wowwwww |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 22 May 2001 05:34 AM
You are 100% right about putting your hands on the law if that is the way it happened.It was first told a little different version..Now intent will have to be established.Was permission given for Chesney to get up on the horse?And why? No Officer would ever let any person sit behind the wheel of his Cruiser without recieving a suspension. If you put candy in someones hand they most likely will eat it.If you allow an incident to start then you are responsible for the finish.Tim can be fined and arrested for obstructing Justice and Assault on an Officer in the performance of his duty.This should and will after a probation hearing result in a fine and Probation. But you can bet Hoppalong Cassidy the patrolman will forever be famous for that ride. ------------------ |
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BJ Bailey Member From: Jackson Ms,Hinds |
posted 22 May 2001 06:37 AM
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When some becomes known with fame ,or have fortune,which ever the case maybe.Some have a tendancey to bow to them,and some name's come to mine in the political world and the musical world.I do'nt know if this was the case.But ,I do'nt beleive that officer would have let me or the everage Joe on his horse.By the way ,you could kinda compare the officer ,to the comander in charge of the submarine,that hit the Japanee's vessal.Remember the outcome of that?All three involved deserve their reward. |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 22 May 2001 07:10 AM
BJ you are so right.But the captain wasn't a cop.He only was responsible for a few deaths and could have destroyed a country with one button push.Seriously (and I do get that way once in a while) both were on duty to serve and protect.Both were doing only half of their duties.Chesney and Macgraw were both wrong and so was a paid protectrant of the public.If he hadn't allowed Chesney on that horse an incident would have never happened.(can you see Jimmy Cochran arguing this). "If he didn't sit you must aquit".What next is he going to let someone try his service revolver? If chesney got hurt on that horse the city of Bufalo would be bankrupt and then would the officer be as supported for his same derelict of duty? Being a policeman is a dangerous sometimes thankless job,and many have laid their life on the line.Every may 15th a black band is worn over shield to honor those brave men.Law enforcement is a serious business.And there is a code of conduct to follow.If that Officer followed that code that night then case closed. ------------------ |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 22 May 2001 01:58 PM
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I shouldn't reply lest I get accused of McGraw and Chesney bashing. But, the point is, they are some of these new artists that labels are trying to appeal to the YOUNGER buyers with. It's not a very good example to slap them on the wrist and let them go. To me that sends the wrong message. Whether you are famous or not breaking the law is just that. ------------------ |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 22 May 2001 02:13 PM
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Craig, I wasn't going to reply anymore either. Tim & Kenny did wrong, everyone agrees. If this is about liking Tim's singing or not that's wrong. The trail will be later because the Judge had a heartache. Theresa |
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RC Antolina Member From: Newnan, Georgia, USA |
posted 22 May 2001 03:17 PM
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Factoids...Orchard Park has nothing to do with Buffalo NY. It's a smallish affluent suburb about 30 miles south. They have a rep for being a no nonsense town. Prince lives there. |
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
posted 22 May 2001 03:23 PM
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Which Prince? |
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Pete Mitchell Member From: Buda, Texas, USA |
posted 22 May 2001 04:19 PM
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Not exactly a Theresa ally; however, Tim McGraw is doing well in his endeavors. Although I am not a fan of his, I can't help but wonder what change of heart most steelers would have in the event of the "big gig" offer from such a party. Let's go back to production for a moment, and how difficult would it be to replicate a "new wave" production as opposed to "boomchucking" like Luther? I don't believe there is a guitar player in the world that can't appreciate or replicate what Luther did. McGraw's production would be ALMOST impossible to replicate in a honkytonk. And what about the young "hot shot" guitar pickers who feel they are just frying on "Workin' Man Blues?" For posterity, if you've done your homework, you will find that Jimmy Burton played the exact solo verbatim on Ricky Nelson's "Milk Cow Blues" a little more laid back than he did it on "Workin' Man Blues" some 30 odd years later. So here we go with the cycle thing again! If I were to expend energy on a piece of material, why not jump into something a little more substantial ala "The Band," who, by the way, revitalized the heck out of Johnny & Jack's "Down South in New Orleans." For that matter, what about the "Dire Straits" as opposed to Tim's "Hickasaw, Choctaw, Chippewa" or whatever it was. Man, am I getting old or what? Pete Hang 'em high!!! Lowdown, horse thievin' sidewinders!!! [This message was edited by Pete Mitchell on 22 May 2001 at 04:21 PM.] |
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rayman unregistered |
posted 22 May 2001 08:50 PM
News flash. The officer who got choked just slapped a civil suit on Chesney, McGraw, and the concert promoters yesterday. Stadium owners also. I have to agree with you all that interfering with a police officer can not be tolerated. It is just too serious to let that happen in our society. I think Timmy will get some jail time. I said hello to Chesney today and wished him well. I was at the trial. Closing arguments tommorrow. It seems the daughter of the owner of the horse who was standing there holding the animal was the one who admitted giving Chesney permission to sit on the horse and I agree that it was irresponsible. |
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RC Antolina Member From: Newnan, Georgia, USA |
posted 22 May 2001 09:29 PM
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My money's on the no jail time. Bobby...Prince the singer. There's more than one? |
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David Pennybaker Member From: Conroe, TX USA |
posted 22 May 2001 09:32 PM
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quote: It's times like these I'd like to be a judge. Judge David: (to plaintiff's lawyers) Counsel, you are all being held in contempt of court -- sentence of 3 days in jail. Judge David: (to plaintiff) You, sir, have the option of joining your lawyers in jail, paying the court costs of $x. If you bring this case before me again, you will be held in contempt of court and jailed for 30 days. Judge David: Next case.
quote: I respectifully disagree. While it's never *smart* to interfere with an officer, there are times when the officer NEEDS somebody to bring him back to reality. The officer's superior officer should've suspended him without pay for week, and not allowed any charges to be filed. This "case" doesn't belong in a criminal court OR a civil court. I'd be saying the same thing if this was Eddie Van Halen instead of Kenney / Tim, too. ------------------ |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 23 May 2001 03:10 AM
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It was probably misprinted and the fact is he "choked"when it came time for him to do his job.This looks like a Job for F.L.Bailey..Or Algonquin J. Calhoun esq. O me what's they gonna do now dere Andy? Get a change of venue Tim,sounds like a fair trial is out of the question..Move it to L.A. they get away with murder out there.The good thing Tim a lot of people will be willing to watch out for Faith and they do have congical visits in New York Prisons.They do have anti choking classes given by the inmates themselves.And there are people there who will help your voice gain a couple of higher octaves.Becoming a soprano is not out of the question.You could even fall in love.It happens.and on the down side..........  When you get out (2023) you will be more popular then ever but there will be no more Country music.Faith will have divorced you and is living with Smiley Roberts who just recieve a new old "sho-Bud" from an annonomous donor. The Steel Guitar Forum will be the B@njo Forum And they will be soon letting b0b out in public again  after we all drove him insane trying to moderate us idiots.opps I forgot. ------------------ [This message was edited by Joe Casey on 23 May 2001 at 03:13 AM.] |
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Smiley Roberts Member From: Hendersonville,Tn. 37075 |
posted 23 May 2001 03:27 AM
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Joe, You missed your calling. You should've been a writer for "Twilight Zone". ------------------ |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 23 May 2001 07:52 AM
Boy some big ole dude will sure be glad to see ole Timmy boy comming throuhg the gate. He better not drop the soap in the shower |
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knight_va Member From: Buena Vista,VA,USA |
posted 23 May 2001 09:06 AM
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I don't think Hank done it this way.......LOL then again I think Merle & both Johnnys & a few other true blue country artists pulled some time.........Heck thats what inspired some of the best songs ever!...Just think 2 yrs in the tank & Tim & Kenny will have even greater hits to sing!..........LOL.... God Bless all!......................Knight |
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Ray Jenkins Member From: Gold Canyon Az. Pinal U.S.A. |
posted 23 May 2001 10:13 AM
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I heard the judge had a heart attack,thank goodness it was only a heartache.  Ray------------------ |
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B Cole unregistered |
posted 23 May 2001 12:25 PM
Man if you was a watchen Faith strut her stuff you would have a heart ache to and probably more then that |
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Bill Sharpe Member From: Hermitage, TN 37076, USA |
posted 23 May 2001 01:38 PM
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Don't want to pass judgement on either fellow, but if they are found guilty, make Tim and Kenny ride back from Buffalo with Smiley.......They'll never step outside the law again.  ------------------ |
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Ray Jenkins Member From: Gold Canyon Az. Pinal U.S.A. |
posted 23 May 2001 01:57 PM
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Bill,your worse than any hanging judge. ------------------ |
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retcop88 unregistered |
posted 23 May 2001 02:05 PM
Bill thats ride back on a Jackass not with one. ------------------ |
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Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
posted 23 May 2001 06:43 PM
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Bill I agree just a few miles with Smiley with him driving,that is cruel and unusual punishment.  ------------------ |
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