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Author | Topic: Just What Is Considered Traditional Country |
Glenn Austin Member From: Montreal, Canada |
![]() The thread on live music in Nashville has left me wondering the following. What exactly, is traditional country music? I've heard a lot of Ray Price with an orchestra and strings. A lot of the faster Buck Owens tunes sound rock n roll to me. Johnny Cash? Patsy Cline? Bill Monroe? Hank Williams... I would be interested to hear what people consider as traditional country music. As a music lover, I have a hard time categorizing music that I like. |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
![]() Glenn, I'm not sure that anyone knows for sure.....from all that's been posted about it, it seems to depend upon which "decade" you were first exposed! www.genejones.com P.S. I didn't like Ray Price with orchestra and strings (apparently no one else did either). [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 08 January 2002 at 09:26 AM.] |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() ..Glenn, I'll bet when you were a kid you used to throw rocks at hornets' nests.. (there's no such thing as traditional country music)
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Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() I know it when I hear it! ![]() |
Glenn Austin Member From: Montreal, Canada |
![]() So I should let sleeping dogs lie? To me there are 2 types of music. 1) Good Music [This message was edited by Glenn Austin on 08 January 2002 at 09:35 AM.] |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() Glenn, I think you know what it is ![]() Theresa I agree with Gene ![]() |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
![]() What's Traditional Country??? Oh, a wiseguy, eh? ![]() ![]() [This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 08 January 2002 at 10:06 AM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() Depends. Do you slant the bar? ![]() Traditional country (seriously) is somewhat defined by what isn't there. There is no distorted guitar. The drums don't play the melody. As soon as you add a distorted guitar or "kick-ass" drums, you have moved away from traditional country. JMHO. ------------------ |
John Paul Jones Member From: San Diego |
![]() Traditional Country Music is what ever YOU think it is! ![]() ![]() ![]() ------------------ GFI U-12 |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
![]() Jim's point is well taken. Reminds me of the riddle: "If you have a dog with four legs and a tail, and you decide to call the tail a leg, how many legs does the dog have?" The answer of course is still four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg!" |
Andy Alford Member From: Alabama |
![]() Hank Williams Roy Acuff E.Tubb Buck Owens Hank Snow Faron Young Wilburn Brothers Webb Pierce George Jones George Morgan These stars along with others helped define traditional country music. |
Glenn Suchan Member From: Austin, Texas |
![]() Why, Lester "Roadhog" Moran and the Cadillac Cowboys, of course! Did you really have to ask!?! ![]() Keep on pickin'! "Ya'll be on your best behavor, we got those nice folks from Mercury Records here tonight" |
Joe Casey Member From: Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9) |
![]() Quote: "Traditional music is whatever you think it is." ![]() ![]() ![]() ------------------ |
bob drawbaugh Member From: scottsboro, al. usa |
![]() Glenn if you have to ask you must be a Marilyn Manson fan. ![]() |
Glenn Austin Member From: Montreal, Canada |
![]() No I'm not to big on Marilyn Manson, He doesn't have a steel player in his band! ![]() That should read "it doesn't have a steel player in its band". [This message was edited by Glenn Austin on 08 January 2002 at 01:01 PM.] |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
![]() I think Bobby Lee's pretty much nailed it. |
Don Walters Member From: Regina, SK, Canada |
![]() quote: Wasn't For The Good Times RP's biggest hit?? ------------------ |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() Don, You blew my theory! Theresa |
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA |
![]() Don & anyone else offended by my comment.... It's a great song, as well as most of the other material on that two-album set. What I should have said was how much better it would have been sounded (to me and many others who have expressed similar comments) if it had been recorded with less orchestration and with a more traditional Price arrangement. www.genejones.com |
Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
![]() Wellll Awlllright Glenn. Glad to see there's someone else who loves the ole Roadhog. I thought so much of him that I kinda named a Cocker Spaniel I had after him. For the AKC regigistration, I named him LESTER the ROADDOG MORON (that's right, moron). Best dog I ever owned. He wore a spiked leather collar and had a mohawk haircut. Boy I miss him Edited to correct spelling errors this darn computer makes. Guess it had one too many brewskies. ------------------ [This message was edited by Richard Sinkler on 08 January 2002 at 04:08 PM.] |
Tim Harr Member From: East Peoria, Illinois |
![]() Hey Roadhog fans...... I was in the Johnny Mack Brown High School Class of '87 I played in the Marching Band: Pedal Steel Guitar and don't forget out 1985 Homecoming Game half-time show opener....'A Johhny Crash Medley' Wellll Awlrighttttt....mighty fine ..indeeed... |
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
![]() There really is a Johnny Mack Brown High School? |
erik Member From: |
![]() THIS is an interesting topic that has never been explored. That's why i keep coming back. ![]() To answer: |
Jason Stillwell Member From: Soper, OK, USA |
![]() Back to the topic--Traditional COUNTRY music is music played to a COUNTRY beat with COUNTRY instrumentation and possibly even sung by a COUNTRY singer. Like Dale Watson, it's the Real Deal. ![]() |
Don Walters Member From: Regina, SK, Canada |
![]() quote: Gene, I agree with that statement totally. But obviously, the buying public doesn't have our insight or taste! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Jussi Huhtakangas Member From: Helsinki, Finland |
![]() The Asylum Street Spankers from Austin have an answer to this topic on their first album; the lyrics of the song "Startin' To Hate Country (But I Still Love Cowboy Songs)" is a pretty good definition ![]() Jussi |
bill ramsey Member From: danville va |
![]() if u ever hear traditionl country. u will know. tears u all to pieces. the steel whining and the bass kicking. wowwwwwww. u will never listen to anything else.. been playing it for 50 years. dont wanna hear no new stuff.[my opinion]. ty. bill |
CHIP FOSSA Member From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A. |
![]() I like , and have to agree with b0b's 1st response,.............."I KNOW IT, WHEN I HEAR IT"...well put, b0b.....If y'all haven't "got it" by now, well then, that's OK. Just don't fret. And yes.... there will be another dawning......stick around. ChipsAhoy |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() Conclusive results from the "Bovine Research Institute of Human Memory Dysfunction" in Studio City Ca. have found that human males tend to identify and fixate on whatever music was popular before they got married (the first time). Fascinating study! I think we are seeing some of the more redundant ramifications of this study in this thread. ![]() Bob [This message was edited by Bob Hoffnar on 09 January 2002 at 06:17 AM.] |
Jerry Hayes Member From: Virginia Beach, Va. |
![]() It's funny that traditional country music isn't always played by country acts. I think that some stuff like the following is traditional country to me! She's a Barmaid in the Honky Tonky Downstairs by POCO. Big Big World..by Johnny Burnette Honky Tonk Nightime Man by Lynyrd Skynrd There are a bunch of others but I agree with b0b when he said "I know it when I hear it". That's the best description yet. Some people say it has fiddle and steel but that's not true as in the old ET records of the 40's with Billy Byrd's guitar as the primary lead or the Cash stuff with Luther P. ------------------ [This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 11 January 2002 at 04:38 AM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() quote:Nice try, Bob, but before my first marriage I was into b@nJ* musick! ![]() |
David Pennybaker Member From: Conroe, TX USA |
![]() quote: How can you DO that to us without posting the lyrics? ------------------ |
Bob Mainwaring Member From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada |
![]() Good one Glen....... what is traditional country music? Who's country ya talkin' 'bout?? Me being a Limey living on Canadian soil in North America playing, or trying to play pedal steel and banjo amongst mixed audiences of native people, Americans and Canadians with a few Euorpeans throw in at the deep end. I must admit - when it comes up in "polite" conversation, I always mention the fact that I play American instruments and try to play them by my best abillity - not always the case but most people are forgiving arround these parts. A lot of what I consider "Country Music" has to be the older "type" not nesessarily "old" country music, but music that can be whistled and be recognised for what it is. A young kid goes to my youngest kids school and drives a bright red pickup truck with tapes playing of all what most of the guys here consider "real" country music. Strange to say but some of the other kids get a charge out of this kids ideals in music to such an extent that other kids have started to listen to his trucks offerings.........go figure. Bob Mainwaring. Z.Bs. and other weird things. ------------------ |
Kenny Dail Member From: Kinston, N.C. 28504 |
![]() Listen to the ingrediants of Steve Goodman's "Perfect Country Western Song" as sung by David Alan Coe. This is a good start for a "Traditional Country Song." But, there again, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" ![]() ------------------ |
Myron Labelle unregistered |
![]() I have to agree with Joe casey. There are those that think they know what is County Music. There are those of us that know what is Country Music.I think I'm going to win the lottery. I know I'm not going to. Thinking and Knowing are two different things. ![]() ------------------ |
Pat Burns Member From: Branchville, N.J. USA |
![]() quote: ...sort of like an Oom-Pah Band or a Schubert or a Strauss Waltz? I guess we didn't say which country... quote: ...like the music that hippie long-hair drunken drug-addict Gram Parsons played... [This message was edited by Pat Burns on 09 January 2002 at 07:52 PM.] |
Jussi Huhtakangas Member From: Helsinki, Finland |
![]() David, I knew someone would get after me with that ![]() |
Dave Birkett Member From: Oxnard, CA, USA |
![]() It's easy to give the duck answer (if it quacks, etc.)but, seriously, the music has drastically changed, at least the music I hear on the radio. When was the last time you heard a sad song? Nowadays, every song is positive. Of the music I grew to love, 90% at least were sad songs. I think a sad song is great inspiration for a steel or fiddle solo, not to mention the vocal. Listen to Hank! Those performances moved you! I couldn't care less if some singer loves her family life. Maybe if she had to spend a couple of years in prison? ![]() ------------------ |
erik Member From: |
![]() Ummmm no, not triplets. |
Glenn Austin Member From: Montreal, Canada |
![]() No pain, No gain. My personal faves include, cryin, lovin, leavin, truckin, cheatin, and , oh yeah, Drinkin. |
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