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Bill Llewellyn Member From: San Jose, CA |
![]() The folks who supply the music want to make a profit. Thus we have the commercials, compression, and corporate consolidations. (Hey, alliteration!) ![]() I'm pretty distressed about Clear Channel. The comparison to MicroSoft is a good one (I'm an Apple kinda guy). We're very fortunate in San Jose that our (one and only) country station is independent. I sure hope they stay that way. [This message was edited by Bill Llewellyn on 25 July 2002 at 08:12 AM.] |
Jeff Evans Member From: Fort Worth (not that other place 30 miles east) |
![]() Brother Dave: [Okay...I'll take the bait.] Yep, just listen to all those country haters on the Ricky Skaggs and Dale Watson Live in London albums...just hating their heads off. I have George Jones and Webb Pierce records which are British label imports. My crappy cockney accent gets laughs (especially when I was trying to do a Canadian); hardly means we despise our good friends in the Olde Country. Parody is one thing; the real deal is something else. Monty Python is hilarious. I wouldn't confuse Holy Grail with authentic medieval history, however. [This message was edited by Jeff Evans on 25 July 2002 at 10:50 AM.] |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() Radio isn't about selling music to listeners. It's about selling listeners to advertisers. The fact that radio generates CD sales is largely irrelevant, from the broadcaster's point of view. Now Clear Channel, in its infinite wisdom, has determined that this sped-up, compressed noise attracts more listeners than regular music does. I assume they have consumer studies to support this, but it's still something that I don't understand. Why are people more likely to change the station if the music sounds better? ------------------ |
John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
![]() Speaking of CC...
The loss of even one rating percentage point, Mr. Poleman said, could cost
Researchers rely mainly on telephone polls, playing eight-second sound bites And a division of Clear Channel, the largest chain of radio stations, has The use of research is having a huge effect on the relationship between "You could make the case that doing research is better than some program Radio executives defend their research, saying that it creates the most It could also explain why music sounds so similar across the country. Since the 1960's, independent promoters, paid by record labels to hawk their That changed in 1996 when the federal government increased the number of Today, a growing number of artists, consumers and legislators are concerned If there is anything driving the use of research in radio programming it is Like its network of radio stations, Clear Channel's research empire is vast, In simplified terms, here is how it works. In the Burbank tower, a Clear Channel also conducts another type of research, call-out research, This, analysts say, is the most influential information. Clear Channel Randy Michaels, chief executive of Clear Channel Radio, said this data is "Research is almost essential because if you focused on your personal But a lot of stations are overdependent on research, said Scott Sands, a Take for instance the most recent single from the Dave Matthews Band, "Where "It is not testing well among listeners online," Mr. Sands said, but he is John Dickey, an executive vice president at Cumulus Media, which owns more "It's just like the fast food industry being blamed for the fattening up of |
Ron Randall Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA |
![]() Get XM radio if you are tired of FM broadcast. XM radio has 6 country channels. Bluegrass, old country, WSIX Nashville, and I foget the rest. Yes, XM has NCS but at least it is CD quality S***. 100+ channels. mostly Commercial free. $10 month. You get what you pay for. |
Bobby Lee Sysop From: Cloverdale, North California, USA |
![]() I don't like what they serve in fast food restaurants, either! |
erik Member From: |
![]() It only takes a few hours in one weekend every one to two months to hear the top 20, 30, or 40 current songs on the charts. You can use that to determine what if any you might want to purchse. The rest of the time you can listen to something else. I read on a songwriting web site that many writers make as much if not more from radio play then from sales. This is an astounding statistic. |
John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
![]() That's right Erik. A cut on a Platinum CD is worth $80,000 to the writer/publisher ($ .08 X 1,000,000 copies). A hit single off the CD can be worth upward of $250,000 in performance royalties for a country records, and much higher for a pop single... [This message was edited by John Macy on 28 July 2002 at 12:17 PM.] |
erik Member From: |
![]() John, i meant performance fees(plays), not sales. So, getting a song in rotation is more lucrative than sales units... according to that "pro". Or maybe you were including that in your figure. [This message was edited by erik on 28 July 2002 at 10:29 AM.] |
John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
![]() Erik, That firgure for the single IS performance fees--not sales. I did not make that clear. I'll edit the first post... [This message was edited by Janice Brooks on 28 July 2002 at 01:15 PM.] |
Brian Lethert Member From: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA |
![]() I don't listen to any country radio AT ALL any more. I figure that some day it will get better and I'll hear about it from someone and tune back in. Until then, I feel that Country is Dead. Semi-on-topic: Absolutely kick-a**. More rockabilly than country, but excellent. On one song the drummer stood up and played a railroad spike with a hammer. Brilliant. It felt very retro.
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Deana Clark Member From: Beverly, Ohio., USA |
![]() 1. High "tenny" sounding mixes, expecially cymbals- that actually make your ears ring. 2. Goofy- soap opera lyrics. 3. The same, redundant, pop drum pattern, as in Tim McGraws' "More than a lover-there could never be another-to make me feel the way you do."(My Best Friend) 4. The female singers all sound like they are trying to be love-goddess', and sing like they are in a trance. I get sick of hearing them breathe so close in the mic. 5. As someone mentioned before- the fiddle, banjo, organ, high mixed steel, dobro, string section, synthesizer, bass, drums, bongos, electric slide, fuzz guitar, tambourine... you name it- all in one. Too full to hear the song. Also, to the fellow who is embarrassed and influenced by what other people may think of country music, who cares? I hate heavy metal, and I'm sure a lot of others do to, but should they change it for me? Heck no. I am proud of my country roots and I don't care who makes fun of it. |
erik Member From: |
![]() quote: ha ha! |
Jason Stillwell Member From: Soper, OK, USA |
![]() quote: That's the "Boom-Poppa-CHING-Poppa" I was talking about! |
Michael Wilson Member From: Willard, Ohio, USA |
![]() Put a cowboy hat on Michael Bolton and he could have even been in the top 10 on CMT...Thats what most of todays "so called country music" sounds like to me. Just a bunch of Michael Boltons with a cowboy hat. Just my 2 cents. |
Ron Randall Member From: Dallas, Texas, USA |
![]() Specific dislike: Vocal harmony that is too thick. Hard to find the lead singer in the mix. This is true whether live or on CD. |
Robert Todd Member From: Atlanta, Georgia USA |
![]() The sad thing is there is a lot of exceptional country music out there that never sees the light of day. Example, The Derailers "full Western gear", any of Buddy Miller's CDs, The Maverics As for music that is played on the Radio, I love the Dixie Chicks, especially the first CD, the stuff Alan Jackson plays that doesn't make the radio is also quite ggod. |
Richard Sinkler Member From: Fremont, California |
![]() "Michael Bolton with a cowboy hat" Too dang funny Michael. I can't stop laughing. ------------------ |
CHIP FOSSA Member From: Monson, MA 01057 U.S.A. |
![]() Ditto, Michael Wilson. Well put. |
Barbara Hennerman Member From: Rangely, CO, USA |
![]() * [This message was edited by Barbara Hennerman on 21 August 2006 at 01:06 AM.] |
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