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Author | Topic: Steve Earl-Taliban Song? |
Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA |
![]() I copied this from another site. Has anyone heard about this? If this is true, put ol' Steve in the same boat as Alec Baldwin and Tom Cruise and ship him out! +*+*+*+* July 21, 2002 -- NASHVILLE - American Taliban fighter John Walker Earle's lyrics describe the United States as "the land of the The song says when Lindh dies, he will "rise up to the sky like Northern California-raised Lindh, 21, last week pleaded guilty to The Lindh ballad is on Earle's forthcoming album "Jerusalem," which Earle is currently in Europe and could not be reached for comment. Music-industry heavyweights are already expressing outrage over the "This puts [Earle] in the same category as Jane Fonda and John Walker Phil Valentine, another Nashville DJ, said Earle had lost his way in "He's off the charts on this one," Valentine said. "It's politically Earle had hits in the 1980s with "Guitar Town" and "Copperhead Road." Friends of the outspoken singer believe Earle will welcome any "He can take care of himself if anyone confronts him on the issue," |
Bob Hempker Member From: Hollister, Mo. |
![]() Steve Earle, and many like him, are nothing but glorified "Garage Bands." bOb's earlier thread about the analysis of NCS hits Steve Earle, and acts like him right square wherever you want to imagine. This crap is just plain Bad Music. It's loud, out of tune, and just plain Crap. i haven't heard this Taliban thing, nor do I care about his political views, but if what he does is music, I'm a blind astronaut. ------------------ |
Earl Erb Member From: Old Hickory Tenn |
![]() Right on Bob. I hear Tootsies is looking for a dish washer. That might be a good career move for Mr.Garage Band Earle. ![]() ![]() |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() I just got this in from Rosco who is Steve Earle's guitar player:
quote: I edited it a little for the the sake of niceness. Bob |
Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth |
![]() one doesn't have to be an axe murderer to write a friggin mystery novel about serial killers... An actor need not be a child molester to play one convincingly on screen. it's just a guy singing a song.It may be politically charged subject matter- but the First amendment was still in effect last I checked.
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Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
![]() well..... short people do suck |
Earl Erb Member From: Old Hickory Tenn |
![]() quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ......(some) people don't understand that steve is a storyteller and the song is from John Walker's point of view -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure John Walkers point of view will be well documented in his court papers.Maybe if we're lucky this song will be as popular as the "Ballad Of Davey Crockett" and maybe Disney will make a movie of it. ![]() ![]() quote: one doesn't have to be an axe murderer to write a friggin mystery novel about serial killers... An actor need not be a child molester to play one convincingly on screen. quote:it's just a guy singing a song.It may be politically charged subject matter- but the First amendment was still in effect last I checked. quote:And whether you cared for any of this particular artist's previous endeavours matters not a whit. quote:this strikes me as a knee jerk reaction to a severely misinterpreted song, not unlike some folks' reaction to Randy Newman's "Short People got no Reason to Live" tune from several years back [This message was edited by Earl Erb on 22 July 2002 at 02:44 PM.] [This message was edited by Earl Erb on 22 July 2002 at 03:32 PM.] |
Michael Holland Member From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA |
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retcop88 unregistered |
![]() Geez I called Steve Earle the "Garbage man" on a thread when he was featured on the Grand Ole Opry by those Idiots who run it.Pure and Simple. If he is consided a Genius I think they have lowered the standard of selection (Lower than Whale shit). ------------------ |
Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
![]() Merles song "The Fightin' Side of Me" comes to mind. |
Wayne Brown Member From: Strathmore, Alberta, Canada |
![]() i saw him live years ago and i lost all respect for him when i saw him play his tackamine guitar . he was wailing on it so bad that he broke 4 strings in 1 song then he tryed the who thing and smashed it...what a IDIOT!!!! can't play so he brakes his toys.... DAH [This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 22 July 2002 at 04:19 PM.] [This message was edited by Wayne Brown on 22 July 2002 at 04:20 PM.] |
Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth |
![]() Don't get me wrong- I do not think Steve Earl is a "genius", or even particularly gifted as a writer. Personally, I would much rather listen to Earl Erb play guitar than listen to Steve Earl "sing" and damned if I intend to defend in any way the behaviour of John Walker Lindh. Nor am I an apologist for the poor down-trodden rich-kid Saudi terrorist bastards responsible for 9-11 but it's just a song fer cryin out loud... |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA |
![]() Steve Earle is a brilliant songwriter. He's also abrasive, abusive(to his audiences) and offensive. Just ask Del McCoury! But, he's allowed to say what he wants to. And we're allowed not to listen to it. Now, I haven't heard the song in question, don't own any of Steve Earle's music. But you KNOW, if country radio won't play "I Just Destroyed the World I'm Livin' In," then they won't play this song, either. I LOVE AMERICA, DON'T Y'ALL!?!?! |
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A. |
![]() I think he's about 35 years too late to cash in on the "Folk Music/Protest Music" craze. ![]() |
Earl Erb Member From: Old Hickory Tenn |
![]() Dave, I didn't mean to get you riled up. I was just havin' a little fun with your comments. I guess we are all a little sensitive after 9/11. BTW, I'm glad you still like my CD. ![]() |
Alvin Blaine Member From: Sandy Valley, Nevada, USA |
![]() quote: Steve Earl is a folk singer get trying to get a reaction from someone.There are millions of folk songs writin from the viewpoint of the villain. At least in this country he can write and sing whatever he wants, if he was under the Taliban rule he wouldn't even be allowed to listen to music. [This message was edited by Alvin Blaine on 23 July 2002 at 02:03 AM.] |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
![]() S Earle plays in a glorified garage band? So do I, but I still drink Miller Beer and play the Star Spangled Banner at every gig . tp |
Ray Jenkins Member From: Gold Canyon Az. Pinal U.S.A. |
![]() quote: Earl,would "Thrashing" be a good word. ![]() Ray ------------------ |
Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA |
![]() FWIW....Here are the lyrics John Walker's Blues Just an American boy So I started looking round Ash-hadu alla ilaaha illallah, there is no God but God If my daddy could see me now Ash-hadu alla ilaaha illallah, there is no God but God We came to fight the Jihad Ash-hadu alla ilaaha illallah |
Earl Erb Member From: Old Hickory Tenn |
![]() Hey Ray, thrashing works for me. ![]() |
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A. |
![]() Not exactly Woody Guthrie, is it? |
Bob Hoffnar Member From: Brooklyn, NY |
![]() Yea, Woodie Guthrie was only one of those unionist commies ! Bob |
Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
![]() Aaaaaaaah, but if it wasn't for the union that I belong to, where would I be? Probably severely underpaid and wouldn't have been able to afford a steel/amp/volume pedal/etc etc |
Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
![]() If it wasn't for your union, I would have been able to afford a steel/amp/volume pedal/etc etc. |
Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
![]() I have a hard time believing that, I'm just underpaid as opposed to severely underpaid. |
retcop88 unregistered |
![]() It may be only a song, Tell that to the families of 2965 departed friends and brothers Familys/ Bottom line a piece of Shit draws nothing but $hitflies. Lets see maybe it's a hit in Taliband land which is in holes like snakes live in. ------------------ |
Chris Schlotzhauer Member From: Colleyville, Tx. USA |
![]() Deleted [This message was edited by Chris Schlotzhauer on 23 July 2002 at 01:51 PM.] |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
![]() I don't like it or the author/performer, but I'd be very upset if it was banned. I don't want anyone telling me what I can listen to. Remember when England banned Sir Paul's song, "Give Ireland Back to the Irish"? I still don't understand how a "free" society can do that. |
Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
![]() Hey guys, let's write a song...I'll start it
[ [This message was edited by Larry Miller on 23 July 2002 at 03:41 PM.] |
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
![]() I think you are missing the point here, it's a song from a view point, it's not endorsing a way of life at all. As always the Forum remains a fairly irony free zone, (Hoffnar and Bovine excepted) that durn ol' Steve Earle, how dare he write something that might actually challenge the average thought process. |
Greg Simmons Member From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada |
![]() and wasn't "Okie from Muskogee" really written with satire in mind...? ------------------ |
Larry Miller Member From: Gladeville,TN.USA |
![]() I've almost got the second verse done, but I need something that rhymes with eat sh!t and die! |
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A. |
![]() Well, I heard the song today. If it sells big...well, let's just say my faith in humanity will dwindle...considerably. I'm talking just about the song, and not the political aspects. Steve may be a great singer and writer, but this song exhibits no such talents. This song's "sensationalism" is the only thing it's got going for it. I'm an amateur at both singing and writing, but I'd really be ashamed if that song was the best I could do. My God...his singing on this makes Bob Dylan sound like Caruso. [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 26 July 2002 at 04:39 PM.] |
Earl Erb Member From: Old Hickory Tenn |
![]() Larry, your killin' me. ![]() ![]() |
Derek Duplessie Member From: La Jolla CA USA |
![]() I cant think of one decent artist that I can actually agree with when it comes to politics. As far as his other music goes...it's excellent!! It's refreshing to hear someone who doesn't wear a big DORKY black cowboy hat and wranglers that are 5 sizes too small!!!!! Instead of singing about honky tonks,pick-up trucks,and hound dogs,he sings about deeper things. At his website he says, "Fundamentalism, as practiced by the Taliban is the enemy of real thought and religion too." He blames john's,"Bohemian" parents and MTV. Steve is one of the few musicians who still writes his own music. A nice guy too!! -Derek |
retcop88 unregistered |
![]() OK Steves Right ,But why can't he write songs about things like Cancer,child abuse,spousal abouse.They'd be a hit too.I never said he should be stopped from writing and exposing his Genius.I'm ok with him not wearing a cowboy hat(some real Cowboy might take offense),I'm even ok with him looking like a wino (heck I'm a Beer-o...Heck he may even be one of the nicest guys in the business (seeing that he is donating the profits to the WTC victims relief fund)yeah right.He may even win a humanitarium award,and the Pope while he's in town may consider him for saint hood.As I excersise my freedom of speech I agree with letting him have his. One difference tho,I am not selling mine. This is still a free Country even if Steve's Subjets of writing would like to change that for us. ![]() ------------------ [This message was edited by retcop88 on 24 July 2002 at 03:33 AM.] |
Joey Ace Sysop From: Southern Ontario, Canada |
![]() I hear they're currently mastering a Bruce Springstein album do out in the fall. He wrote a song on it that tells the story of a Suicide Bomber in the first person. That's dark, but not unusual for Bruce. I think it was his 80's album Nebraska that had songs in the first person about killers. |
kyle reid Member From: Butte,Mt.usa |
![]() Black cowboy hats are far from DORKY, & usually are backed up by great steel, now whats dorky, is some flat singin? dork, that stunk up the Opry a while back! & I dont think its just MY opinion! |
ebb Member From: nj |
![]() real life is not black and white. that's why there are artists and politicians |
chas smith Member From: Encino, CA, USA |
![]() "I cut off her head and kicked it against the wall"..Ralph Stanley "...on top of the first Mrs Jones.." Porter Wagoner "..you think I'm psycho don't you mama, I just killed..." don't remember the singer "...just to watch him die..." Johnny Cash We do have some history here... |
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