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Jo Ann Joyce Member From: Silver Spring, MD - USA |
posted 08 May 2005 11:11 AM
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Warm my heart with her lyrics? No, not exactly...but her vocal tones are MUCH better on the ballad and "Homewrecker" -- I won't miss the screech sound if I never hear it again...choice of lyrics is a whole other topic and I ain't openin' that can of worms, it's a much better world with the lid kept on it! Yours, Jo Ann |
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Duane McKay Member From: Hartsville, Indiana, USA |
posted 08 May 2005 12:27 PM
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....we missed David at the Gospel Steel Show yesterday, we know he missed being there with his mama on the day before Mother's Day! We are happy he is having fun. His pickin' is the greatest!! Just hang in and carry on, David !! The McKays' |
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Bob Smith Member From: Allentown, New Jersey, USA |
posted 08 May 2005 02:48 PM
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Wow, What happeened here? I mentioned the wonderful Jody, and her dynamite band in another post and it wasnt acknowledged by anyone . It s funny how the fire starts sometimes! I appeciate all the lovely ladies that sing country music and all the great players that make the music for them while they sing.The songs, the singers and the players have never sounded better than they do these days.( IMO) bob |
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Gaylon Mathews Member From: Jasper, Georgia |
posted 09 May 2005 07:44 AM
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I just found this thread last night and was really shocked with what I read. For the record, I've met Jo Dee and seen her show. Both are terrific. I think her new single rocks (which by the way is an old Joe Diffie tune). I love all kinds of music but my heart is in the country. Jo Dee and Gretchen both have what I consider country and not so country tunes on their albums. So what. When I buy an album I know that there is gonna be a song or two and maybe even more on the album that I don't care for. (except for the new Mark Chesnutt album) I work for Gretchen and I don't particulary like all the songs on her first album either. There is always gonna be songs and singers that we like better than others and some we just can't stand. However, all this talk about how good or how bad Jo Dee and Gretchen is - is a drag. My opinion, they both ROCK! Everyone has a right to his/her opinion that's true, but I have to say the following to Boo Miller: I've heard from several industry folks around town about you and how great your playing is. I've heard that you are a great guy as well. I often wondered when I'd get the opportunity to meet you and shake your hand. But after the comments you've made about my friend Miss Trailer Park on this forum, all I have to say now is "My Give A Damn's Busted!" ------------------ Gretchen Wilson [This message was edited by Gaylon Mathews on 09 May 2005 at 07:46 AM.] [This message was edited by Gaylon Mathews on 09 May 2005 at 07:51 AM.] [This message was edited by Gaylon Mathews on 09 May 2005 at 07:52 AM.] |
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Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
posted 09 May 2005 10:45 AM
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Hey Gaylon I think most are in agreement with you here. This thead was actually started by someone who just stated she liked Jo Dee's new song and then we heard from David.
and now we have numerous posts going all over the place, including this one... congrats on your gig with Gretchen..I'm sure it's fun..the setlist is not my favorite but it be would be a thrill to be part of it.... t [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 09 May 2005 at 10:48 AM.] |
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Charley Adair Member From: Maxwell, Texas, USA |
posted 09 May 2005 12:24 PM
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I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't think Kevin meant anything about the musicians. Face it, a good band can make almost any one sound good. There are few good female musicians out there, so if they didn't have a good band, they'd be up the creek. As far as Jo D & Gretchen go, they both have songs I, personally , don't care for. Yet, they both have some I do like. I would say that Gretchen is doing more "country" type country music right now, but what will she be two years from now? Fame made from doing traditional country sometimes tends to send young stars down a different road. I appreciate Kevin sounding his opinion. Otherwise this might have been a dull topic. Congratulations to David on a solid gig. IMO, a band without steel isn't worth paying to see. Just MY opinion. Charley ------------------ |
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Howard Tate Member From: Leesville, Louisiana, USA |
posted 09 May 2005 01:17 PM
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I agree with Gaylon, and I agree that every one has a right to an opinion, but the post from Kevin really sounded like a flame directed at Theresa, who only stated what she likes. She did not deserve that. ------------------ |
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Gaylon Mathews Member From: Jasper, Georgia |
posted 09 May 2005 04:32 PM
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Let me state before this goes any further that I don't have a problem with anyone's opinion. There's people that have told me to my face that they don't care for Gretchen's music. That doesn't bother me nor does it bother Grethcen. She & I both know that not everyone is gonna like her stuff. I think Jo Dee knows this just like all artists do. I just don't think that Gretchen deserves the whole "Pimple on Jo Dee's butt" thing. I mean, it seems to me that the less you say the better you are in some instances. For example, I'm sad to say that my Dad's health is deteriorating as we speak and I've been asked to find a suitable substitute in the event I must leave to be with him. Certain names have been brought up for consideration. Now that I know how some feel, they won't be getting the call. I personally don't necessarily have a problem with Boo because he was just stating an opinion too but dang if it couldn't have been worded a little differently. ------------------ Gretchen Wilson [This message was edited by Gaylon Mathews on 09 May 2005 at 04:52 PM.] |
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Herb Steiner Member From: Cedar Valley, Travis County TX |
posted 09 May 2005 05:06 PM
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A view from the sidelines by an observer without an agenda: The way this thread developed is an example of a "zero-sum game," in which one person must "win" by the other person "losing." Thread started out by complimenting Jo Dee Messina. Okay, so far. David, a great steel player, comments that it's a fun and good gig. More okay. But wait! Kevin comes in and says that in his opinion Jo Dee isn't any good. Instead of leaving it at that, he brings Gretchen into the mix, even though Gretchen wasn't even an issue in the original post. Uh oh, now Boo (a fine steel player and former Jo Dee sideman) comes to the defense of Jo Dee. Instead of bringing the issue back to Kevin's opinion of Jo Dee and leaving it at that, he zingers Kevin by negative comments about Gretchen!! Enter Gaylon, who had previously had a positive opinion about Boo but now feels that he wouldn't be an appropriate substitute for him, based on his publicly stated opinion of Gretchen. The cooler heads viewing this thread comment that although Jo Dee and Gretchen each have good material as well as songs that don't appeal to them, both are artists with futures ahead of them. Neither singer is the spawn of Satan, and neither of them walks on water as well. Current Outcome: Kevin and Boo slapped each other with insults about their favorite chick singers. The only visible result is that Boo probably loses a future gig. David still has a good gig as does Gaylon, and neither Gretchen or Jo Dee probably give a sh!t about any of it. One thing I've learned in 40 years in this business is that publicly spouting negative opinions of artists and musicians, though the chest-thumping may initially feel good, can occasionally come around to bite you on the ass. Politically, it doesn't make sense in this game. ------------------ [This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 09 May 2005 at 05:13 PM.] |
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Rick Garrett Member From: Tyler, Texas |
posted 10 May 2005 03:35 AM
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Wow Herb, you did an excellent job of summing up this thread. I like some songs from both gals previously mentioned. That doesn't mean I like them all. In fact, I can't think of even one artist that I liked each and every song they put out. I'm really particular about what music I'll buy. Bottom line is that anybody in the music business thats blessed to the point of being able to make a living doin what they love has 95% of us beat. We should be proud of those that do their thing night after night. Everybody up there on the stage made sacrifices of some sort to be there so I say congrats guys and have a ball! By the way Herb, I'm really enjoying the teaching material I got from you. Great stuff! Rick |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 10 May 2005 04:49 AM
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Thanks Howard and Herb for your remarks. Gaylon, I don't know Boo personally, but I'm sure he was stating his rathers like Kevin was. He was defending Jo Dee as you are about Grethen. If people would think before typing, it would be a nicer forum. Saying all that I hope you'll reconsider and not hold him in contempt. I also wish your Dad the best of health!  Congrat's to Jo Dee again! I'm happy she uses steel on her records and she's hired Boo and David! Theresa |
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Mark Metdker Member From: North Central Texas, USA |
posted 10 May 2005 05:36 AM
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Hey, I love Gretchen!!
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Kenny Burford Member From: Lexington, Missouri USA |
posted 10 May 2005 11:33 AM
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I heard of JM's talent in early 1993 from drummer Mike "Spike," Smith when we began working together, he told me then that if she (JM) ever got a record deal she would go to the top and it appears she has. As for GW, for a new artist she seems to be holding her own too. I agree with what others above have said, there are songs by both artists they like and dislike, which is common, but it just speaks well of both performers when they can please a fan with at least some of their recordings. [This message was edited by Kenny Burford on 10 May 2005 at 11:34 AM.] [This message was edited by Kenny Burford on 10 May 2005 at 11:35 AM.] |
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Rick Schmidt Member From: Carlsbad, CA. USA |
posted 10 May 2005 01:43 PM
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MY give a damn is busted... |
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Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA |
posted 10 May 2005 01:45 PM
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What's all the fuss about? It's just two chick singers. |
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Larry Robbins Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA |
posted 10 May 2005 02:41 PM
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Gaylon, Best wishes for your Dad. Hang in there it aint easy sometimes. We do what we must. Thanks for the music. |
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db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
posted 10 May 2005 07:40 PM
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How did this turn into a Gretchin Wilson Thread? Dan Balde |
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db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
posted 10 May 2005 07:44 PM
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You know, Jo Dee is the only "New Country" female artist with the classic "hitch" in her voice. Is there a better term for what I am trying to say here? Dan Balde |
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db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
posted 11 May 2005 02:46 PM
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Hitch . . . Like she starts to sing and the sound comes out a milisecond later. Sort of like an old yodel thing but, not exatly. Is there a better word for this? Dan Balde |
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Mike Sweeney Member From: Nashville,TN,USA |
posted 11 May 2005 03:10 PM
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Herb, you are one smart guy. Have you any political asperations? You'd make a good mediator, secretary of state, or wrestling referee. LOL!! Mike |
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Craig A Davidson Member From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA |
posted 11 May 2005 04:01 PM
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Way to go Herb. Nicely put. I will still have to go with Jo Dee cause I have a thing for redheads. But that's another thread and another forum maybe. She is a good singer. |
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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
posted 26 May 2005 05:20 AM
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3rd week being #1! |
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Duane McKay Member From: Hartsville, Indiana, USA |
posted 26 May 2005 07:23 AM
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Jo Dee is a very popular singer!....a little 'mod' for some of us, but the 'younguns' love her! Most of us have seen the Spires family at the steel shows for awhile and we know they are very talented! Now we see David [with the steel guitar that we all love] on TV with Jo Dee. Soooo....we say say simply...'Go for it David, with our blessing'!!! The McKays |
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Duane McKay Member From: Hartsville, Indiana, USA |
posted 26 May 2005 07:28 AM
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...and P.S. David Spires has a great singing voice! His gospel songs are beautifully done! We await a time when Jo Dee sees fit to let David sing. Agree? The McKays' |
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db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
posted 26 May 2005 08:17 PM
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Hey DS . . . Your "Dobro" simulator tone was GREAT on GMA. But, you "Steel tone" was harsh! I attribute this some to the "low-tech" of "TV" audio. If I were the sound engineer, I would have changed your "Steel-Tone" to have a different "dimension" . . . A little further back in the "mix" and "dimension" . . w/delay, echo or reverb. Best wishes for a great tour. ------------------ Dan Balde U-12/8&5, S-7/D 3&1, S-6/E,A & G3 [This message was edited by db on 26 May 2005 at 08:18 PM.] |
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Charlie McDonald Member From: Lubbock, Texas, USA |
posted 28 May 2005 06:50 AM
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Gaylon, I seem to recall Larry Bell telling me about his gig, and the name Gretchen Wilson comes to mind. Is he working with you, or am I remembering the wrong name? An aside, seems like a lot of agendas here. |
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Gaylon Mathews Member From: Jasper, Georgia |
posted 28 May 2005 10:09 AM
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Charlie, Larry is not in our camp. Not sure who he's working with. ------------------ Gretchen Wilson |
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