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Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() She's got the #1 record in the world "My Give A Damn's Busted". She's one of the best Country singers to date and I'm proud of her! ![]() Theresa |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
![]() I love her too..and that guy on Steel ain't to shabby either..but he doesn't look as good as Jo Dee... ![]() t |
David Spires Member From: Nashville, TN USA |
![]() :-) Thanks for the support and "plug", Theresa and Tony. It's such a cool time to be out with her - #1 single, and the album debuted at #1 too (#7 against all genres). We were flying back from Tampa when she got the call on the single, and it was so neat to see how excited she was. I guess I am still a "newbie", but I'm just loving it all. The new album "Delicious Surprise" probably wouldn't top the chart of the Steel Guitar Forum, but I love it. There are some great mixtures of dobro and steel - most of which were recorded by Paul (no surprise there!). Theresa, Jo Dee is one of those performers that "brings it" every night. You certainly won't find an "Autotune" in her audio rack. It's kind of like she puts up with the other "success" stuff, in order to just get out and sing. Tony - let's just say that I started jogging again after I saw some of the TV spots... Thanks again, David Spires PS - I'm going to find my big ole' Tennessee Titans' foam #1 finger to wear to bus call Friday night... |
Mark Metdker Member From: North Central Texas, USA |
![]() Congrats David. Sounds like fun for ya'll right now. ------------------ Strats thru a tweed Bassman Band Pics |
Ray Minich Member From: Limestone, New York, USA |
![]() PF strikes again, as I suspected... ![]() |
Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
![]() She's a rock singer. She came on the Opry a couple of weeks ago and did a blues tune. Not country. Gretchen Wilson can kick her butt as far as country goes. The sooner she's gone the better. Thats just the facts. Sorry Theresa. I still love you.(Oooooh, did I say that?) One more thing. As you know Theresa Gretchen Wilson is the new female standard in country music and she is going to sweep the field of these over the hill rock chickies. "When I Think About Cheating" was the opening salvo. She's got the industry behind her and Big and Rich also and she's not going to be stopped. The young women love her because she's real country right out of the Honky Tonks and just like one of them. There's more of her type right behind her just already signed. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 05 May 2005 at 02:33 PM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 05 May 2005 at 02:53 PM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 05 May 2005 at 02:55 PM.] |
David Spires Member From: Nashville, TN USA |
![]() "The sooner she's gone the better. Thats just the facts." Wow... Next time I need a "fact", I'll know to ask you, Kevin. In general, I'm really surprised by the negative comments some people make about different styles and different artists, on this forum. I have music that I like and music that I don't, but I don't spend time talking about what I don't like. I'm not even going to debate whether JDM is country or not. I like her music, and have since tunes like "Stands Beside Me" and "Downtime" that featured fabulous work by Brent Mason and Paul Franklin. Fortunately for me, Jo Dee Messina is an entertainer who employs a steel guitarist. There are a lot of "country" acts that don't. I - for one - am glad that country music has pushed it's boundaries, and evolved. I'm a steel player - so yeah, I love traditional stuff, and I also like stuff a lot further from home plate than Jo Dee does too. Isn't country music about more than the instrumentation or the production? My opinion is that the lyrics and the message are the biggest thing that fits a song into a genre. I'm just sharing my opinion, because I feel like there are many people who put down the music made in "mainstream" Nashville. Being a very small part of that music, I suppose it is too easy for me to take offense to it. I am sure that my comments will not be taken well by the majority of forumites, but I guess that is my right - as much as it is your right to disagree with me. My Opinion, David Spires |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
![]() oh geeze..the can is open.. Kevin, I respectfully see it totally different than you. I don't happen to think Gretchen is the next big thing.I think she's ok, we even bought her CD. The CD's ok, not great, in our opinion here at home. Jo Dee is several CD's past her "Initiation" if you will...You're speaking in the future for Gretchen, I think she has a career in front of her but she's not the only one. And I seriously doubt she is setting the standard or reference for any female singers.. Jo Dee..is a great singer..you can call her anything you want..but she is a great vocalist.. If you think "I'm here for the party" is a straight ahead Country song then we are really from different planets.. These types of songs have a limited window of appeal time. They are fun, but they are not lasting..a great ballad with an exceptional vocal performance lasts a lifetime... I don't understand where your "The sooner she is gone " comment comes from...thats pretty off color for me.... Jo Dee isn't #1 right now because I say she is.... You can't have it both ways..Big and Rich/Gretchen non Country get to stay ..Jo Dee non Country must go.. sorry t [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 05 May 2005 at 04:00 PM.] |
Larry Robbins Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA |
![]() I like em both and would give my eye teeth to play behind either of em!Congrats on the gig David! What a boaring world this would be if we all liked vanilla! ------------------ "Theres been an awful murder, down on music row" |
John Macy Member From: Denver, CO USA |
![]() quote "One more thing. As you know Theresa Gretchen Wilson is the new female standard in country music and she is going to sweep the field of these over the hill rock chickies. " Thank goodness we have this forum so I can learn important facts like this... |
Gary Carriger Member From: Corpus Christi, Texas, USA |
![]() David, Jo Dee does not happen to be my favorite female vocalist, but I still can appreciate her talent. And it excites me that a fellow picker has a chance to work behind an artist that has a #1 tune. More power to each of you....... Gary (actually Tricia is my favorite) |
Barney Y. Miller Member From: Covington, GA, USA |
![]() David, Congrats again on the great playing you did with Jo Dee on "The View" the other day. Having been there when you arrived on the scene a few years ago and having the opportunity to play with you and your Dad I knew then you would be successful regardless of who you worked with. I am absolutly proud that you are working with a singer of Jo Dee's caliber. She is fantastic and at the present time #1 in the Atlanta area. We all have our favorites and she is definatly one of the.
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Hook Moore Member From: South Charleston,West Virginia |
![]() I agree with Gary.. David I hope to see you in a couple weeks here in Charleston WV.. Hook ------------------ |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() Sorry Kevin! I disagree with everything you said. Does saying negative things about others make you feel better? ![]() David, Was That My Life Theresa |
Theresa Galbraith Member From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA |
![]() ![]() [This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 05 May 2005 at 06:11 PM.] |
Larry Strawn Member From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA |
![]() I wear my jeans to tight, just to watch the little boys come undone,, Where did I hear that TRASH line?? |
Earnest Bovine Member From: Los Angeles CA USA |
![]() Jo Dee may be from the city, but her records sure are country. And if you don't believe me, ask Simon Cowell! |
Larry Strawn Member From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA |
![]() I'm about as "country" as they come, although all of Jo Dee's stuff don't Jump out and Grab me,,I think she is a fine artist, and entertainer, and wish her a long successful run. JMO Larry ------------------ [This message was edited by Larry Strawn on 05 May 2005 at 06:39 PM.] |
Keith Cordell Member From: Atlanta |
![]() Boy when will we get over the days that people think it's cool to pee on someone else's fire? If you don't have anything good to say, shut the %#@ up... I don't personally care for either artist enough to go out and buy it but I am no going to be personally offensive about it. Everyone tries hard to do their best so either cheer or sit down. What a jerk. ------------------ |
Dave Mudgett Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA |
![]() David, I actually don't really disagree with you at all, and I admit I'd like to see some changes in Nashvegas. But it's certainly not the musicianship, and to a large extent not even the 'stars'. Most of these folks sing just great, and generally when they get to cut loose on some trad country music, they kick it in the butt. For me, the issue is production values, which are controlled at a higher level. I'd like to see things get down to earth more. Less slickness, more soul, a little more grease, more freedom to go outside, and perhaps even a little less demand for technical perfection. But the musicianship right now is A-#1 first rate, and the music is much more listenable than any other 'popular music' around, much of which (but not all) sounds like hyenas with chain saws. Look at what's going on around us. I just don't want to see things go down that road. Country is now a 'mainstream popular music'. Think of the hardcore old-school styles: country, bluegrass, cool jazz, rockabilly, blues. I think people forget the relatively small numbers most artists in these fields did back in their heyday. This stuff isn't that easy to bottle and sell in large numbers, never was. Another distracting thing is that a lot of people criticize Nashville these days for being influenced by blues. Whassamatta with the blues? Heaven forbid 'real' country singers should start flattin' 5ths, messin' around with microtones on 3rds, and hittin' them pentatonic scales like blues singers do. Ya' know - George Jones, Tracy Nelson, Delbert McClinton, Patsy Cline, Bill Monroe, Hank Williams, Delmore Bros, Jimmy Rogers, etc. - no blues there, that's for sure. [This message was edited by Dave Mudgett on 05 May 2005 at 10:47 PM.] |
Myron Labelle unregistered |
![]() So far as I read it, it's 14 for and 1 against.Sort of the way the new out sells the old....I'll have to admit until I took my wife out to see her the other night (Tampa)I would not have cared one way or the other. This young lady is a audience grabber.If I did not have the free tics we may not have gone but seeing the live show (and believe me it is "Live") we left there as fans.I may not like where Country music is now,but my Kids,My wife ,My friends do...We may have been Country when Country wasn't cool but the good thing is I'm still Country when it is. ![]() ------------------ [This message was edited by Myron Labelle on 06 May 2005 at 04:41 AM.] |
Mark Metdker Member From: North Central Texas, USA |
![]() We played with Trick Pony at Billy Bob's last weekend. It was very slick and very energetic. I heard no playing mistakes and everyone looked like they were having fun. The crowd really enjoyed the show. I have to agree with Dave M's comments about the current state of country. A lot of people bitch and moan about it, but the best musicians IMO are playing in professional country bands, not rock bands. And I agree that is may be TOO slick. I would love to hear some dirty blues thrown in. And Jo Dee can definitley handle that. BUT, would I like to play with some of the big acts out ther....yeah! (insert rant here)Remember back in the day when rock bands had to write, sing well, sing 3 part harmonies, and play with intensity and skill? Well, they don't do that anymore. BUT, country artists still do all that. You will not hear more skilled, disciplined musicians than mainstream country acts out on the road now. Jo Dee Messina and band included. A lot of the forum members here think that if a song has more than 3 chords, it is a crappy crossover tune. Music is constantly evolving, country included. It ain;t the '60's anymore guys. The players that adapt and overcome are the players that are out playing venues other than VFWs. Learn it or get left behind! (rant over) David, you have lots of fans here pal. Enjoy the ride. Once it is over, all we have is memories. Go make some good ones. ------------------ Strats thru a tweed Bassman Band Pics |
Frank Estes Member From: Huntsville, AL |
![]() She is a great artist and she is looking better than ever! I guess we know what she was doing while she appeared to "fall off the map" -- she was working out! ![]() Keep in mind that she was a contestant on "You can be a star," even though she did not win. The song is catchy. As a parent of three little boys, I just wish she had modified the lyrics to: "My Give A Care is busted." I like how Jo Dee is playing a Music Man Axis in the video, which is guitar designed by guitar hero, Edward Van Halen. It looks like it is purple in color. David, don't let the whining bother you. The great players like a variety of music and are often accomplished in several of those generes. David - What I want to know, is how do you get the time off work from Alcoa to do this? Best wishes to you! I have always like her singing. ------------------ |
Alan Shank Member From: Woodland, CA, USA |
![]() Keith wrote:"If you don't have anything good to say, shut the %#@ up... " I have to disagree. One of the things I use this forum for is to find music that I will like, but also to avoid buying stuff I won't like. Of course, you can say you don't like something politely, and clearly state that it's a matter of preference. I haven't heard Joe Dee Messina, but from what I've read here, I won't buy anything by her. I bought Gretchen Wilson, but I wouldn't buy another. My preference in country music is quite narrow, I admit. That's why it's difficult for me to find music to buy, and why I'm so jazzed about the new Mark Chesnutt. |
Bill Miller Member From: Gaspé, Québec, Canada |
![]() Jo Dee's not Tammy Wynette but I find a lot of her stuff great. Her music has a drive and energy that really draws you in, and to top it off the pedal steel is pretty high in the mix on a lot of her songs. Fine looking woman too. |
erik Member From: |
![]() I've always liked catchy driving Pop/Country Rock songs like Heads/Tails, and Bye-Bye. These songs are no different in style than many others that have charted over the past 20 yrs or so by various artists. (I can name them if necessary). Interestingly, I am unfamiliar with this new #1 song. ------------------ |
Al Miller Member From: Nashville, TN |
![]() Kevin!! I Also worked With Miss Jo-dee in 2003 and i am a die in the wool country fan as well.,.. BUT I WILL TELL YOU AND ANY ONE ELSE.. GRETCHEN WILSON WOULDNT MAKE A PIMPLE ON JO-DEE"S A*$!! In The Country Field ,Rock and Roll , Or Any other venue .. jo-dee is doing what she loves and doing it well you should be praising her for her talent ... if she wanted to sing traditional country SHE COULD AT ANY GIVIN TIME .. And Smoke Miss Trailer Park ... You Should Be Ashamed of your self for saying things like that in public.. David you guys keep on keepin on and tell Jo-dee and the boys i said hello and love them .. Opinions like that are worthless in this buisness... Boo Miller |
Kevin Hatton Member From: Amherst, N.Y. |
![]() I'm REAL impressed Al. When Hank Williams JR. is sitting next to JM I'll even be more impressed. Gretchen Wilson is going to rock the country world, she's the people's favorite. The real deal. You have your opinion, I have mine. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 06 May 2005 at 05:23 PM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 06 May 2005 at 05:25 PM.] |
Larry Strawn Member From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA |
![]() What's so impressive about Jr.?? Larry ------------------ |
Eric West Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA |
![]() I'm not myself dismayed to see great looking ladies singing great country music. I don't see any reason they need to be fat and ugly to pass muster with some of these old geezers... I was just thinking of Chely Wright, and the concert I saw her, Confederate Railroad, and Johnny Paycheck at in 95. They had Paycheck turned down, Conf RR sucked so bad because the drummer played so lousily that his band had quit and they used Chely's musicians. She and her band put on a GREAT show. Nope, I"m not offended at all by good looking women that sing and perform well. Not at all. EJL |
Al Miller Member From: Nashville, TN |
![]() Jo-dee Dosent Have to Ride the coat tails of the likes of already established stars Such As Hank Jr,Charlie Daniels,ect... she has already paid her dues.. when the trailer park gal has a GREATEST HITS ALBUM.. And THE #1 ALBUM IN THE WORLD !! Then Argue your Point .. Boo Miller |
Stephen Gambrell Member From: Ware Shoals, South Carolina, USA |
![]() What's all the fuss about? It's just two chick singers. |
Tony Prior Member From: Charlotte NC |
![]() The Peoples Choice..... rather interseting take.. right now Jo Dee is the choice of the minions..how can that be ? I don't personally think that Gretchen is the next big thing but I am not asking that she dissappear...I am not, and nobody else from what I read has requested that she leave town..unlike what we have read right here about Jo Dee... Time will tell if Gretchen can rise to the staying power where Jo Dee already is...the only way that will happen is if she can be versatile and maintain an audience when the INDUSTRY shifts..will she be able to shift along with those who have proven they can..and did...? A greatest "HITS" album to me sure seems like it has more to offer than a "Hit".. Tiny Tim was #1 once too.... The Big and Rich gang and all affiliates , have captured AN audience, not THE audience.. good for them... Last time I looked at the CMT top 20 , I don't recall seeing Gretchen, maybe I was in the bathroom... words are cheap on this one..lets see what happens over time..... I wish them both continued success.. t [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 07 May 2005 at 03:04 AM.] |
Donna Dodd Moderator From: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA |
![]() I've seen Jo-Dee in concert, and the woman is ON FIRE!! What a wonderful spirit she has! She's a role-model we can be extremely proud of!
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Jo Ann Joyce Member From: Silver Spring, MD - USA |
![]() My 2 cents worth. Jo Dee is GREAT -- have seen her in person with George Strait and she has a great voice and stage presence and she took over drums and did one heck of a drum solo. I like Gretchen too -- but not until she sang something with some HEART! I just think "Redneck Woman" and "Here For The Party" cashes in on a specific audience. If you are a Confederate Railroad "I Like My Women A Little On The Trashy Side" fan...then Gretchen is right up your alley. Now, on the other hand -- I AM impressed with her ballad - "When I Think About Cheatin'" and "Homewrecker" plus the fact that she had a hand in writing 6 of her 10 songs. It is very noticeable (to me at least) the ballad and "Homewrecker" almost sound like a differed vocalist and those songs depict the better tones in her voice. I think Ms. Wilson will "evolve", but she better get a personal trainer and some high dollar running shoes to catch up with the talent and class act of Jo Dee. It's comparing apples & oranges. BTW, I like both apples and oranges...just not at the same time! |
db Member From: Bethlehem, PA 18015 USA |
![]() Hey Theresa, I am with you here! Jo Dee the "best-real-thing" out-there! I particularly love her up-tempo re-make of the Shelly West tune - Lesson in Leavin' - She has an "edge", with-out the Nashville "mold" (There is a double auntantdra in here). The only other ""real country ladies" that she is in competition with here are Wynona, for the "edge" and Lee-Ann for the "classic" sounds. It's great to see that she is still "in the running"! I also think that it is cool that Joe Diffie is still writing too! ------------------ Dan Balde U-12/8&5, S-7/D 3&1, S-6/E,A & G3 [This message was edited by db on 07 May 2005 at 07:40 PM.] |
Larry Strawn Member From: Golden Valley, Arizona, USA |
![]() Jo Ann,, I believe you nailed it right on the head!! What I found that "I" didn't care for about Gretchin, was her choice of material,, To me, JMO, is the first two songs were nothing but Trash,, But her ballads, I really like em,, I think she does an excellent job on them..and like you say,,"apples, and oranges" JMO Larry |
Donna Dodd Moderator From: Kennesaw, Georgia, USA |
![]() Gretchen's voice is beautiful. Her steel player is Terrific! But . . . the lyrics of "When I think about cheating"? - Does that REALLY warm your heart: So she's going through the motions of having an affair (dance, dinner, etc), but doesn't actually give in at the very end because she thinks you might leave her if she does. Yep, I know every man wants a woman like that!!! |
pix1 Member From: WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A. |
![]() My vote for best female country singers? Kelly Willis, Patty Loveless, Heather Myles. Robbie Bossert |
ajm Member From: Los Angeles |
![]() For what it's worth..... Jo Dee and David are making their living playing music. They are getting paid for what they do, and it appears as though a lot of other people appreciate it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I repeat, THEY are making their living at it. It's tough to argue with success. The way I see it, everyone wants to be at the top of the ladder in their area. There are two ways to do it. One way is to actually be better than your peers and higher on the ladder. The other way is to continually beat and kick everyone else down that is also climbing the ladder. In case you haven't figured it out, method #2 doesn't work for very long. No matter what field you are in, whether it's music, or karate, or engineering, or medicine, or athletics, or being a beautiful supermodel, there is ALWAYS someone else better. Quote: "A lot of people bitch and moan about it, but the best musicians IMO are playing in professional country bands, not rock bands." And someone mentioned Edward Van Halen. Please refrain from mentioning any rock musicians or their contributions or influence on music and instrument designs on this forum. This is a country forum (it must be, it's about steel guitars, right?). We all know that rock music is all noise, just by the fact that it's usually loud because they only play that way to cover up their inadequacies. I'm glad that there are no country bands that tour with a dozen semi-trailers full of stage and sound equipment. ------------------ |
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