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Adrienne Clasky
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From: Florida, USA

posted 20 July 2006 04:43 PM     profile     
Anthony Wilson: Adult Themes.

It gestures towards the past, but is wholly grounded in the contemporary. Plus, Wilson is brilliant. (That helps! LOL)

Frank Estes
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From: Huntsville, AL

posted 20 July 2006 09:58 PM     profile     
When I was at Xavier University (around the mid 1990s), Calvin Newborn did a little concert and it was just him and a standup bass. I really enjoyed it and probably have a copy of the performance on VHS somewhere as they replayed it on local TV in Cincinnati.

Anyway you can check him out:
http://yellowdogrecords.com/calvinnewborn/

Mark van Allen
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From: loganville, Ga. USA

posted 25 July 2006 04:41 PM     profile     
Lots of great suggestions here.
Charlie Christian for sure- for one thing, almost everything he played lays well on C6th!
And definitely get hold of Mark Whitfield's self-titled first CD. great stuff in the Benson vein.
Dave Mudgett
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From: Central Pennsylvania, USA

posted 25 July 2006 09:10 PM     profile     
One of my favorite vinyl record shops is going out of business tomorrow, so I went down to grab up everything cool I could find today - I picked up several cool jazz guitar LPs, but this one really stands out: "Seven, Come Eleven" with Herb Ellis, Joe Pass, Jake Hanna, and Ray Brown, on Concord Jazz, live at the Concord Jazz Festival, 1974. Herb and Joe just sound great together, and of course Ray Brown doesn't hurt anything either.

I know some jazz guitar players who are critical of Herb because he is more focused on single-string than most, and the jazz guitar mainstream is really into the chord melody thing. He approaches it more like a horn player and also has a brighter-than-typical tone. But he just burns it up on this record, to my taste. I hear so many shades of Charlie Christian, but I can usually tell it's Herb right away - he has a distinctive sound. I saw him live several times also - as usual, it's a matter of personal taste.

PS - a cool CD in the same trip - Jack McDuff, "The Honeydripper", with Grant Green on guitar and Jimmy "Night Train" Forrest on tenor, on Prestige, original recording 1961. This is Grant's first major recording. If this ain't "fat, dirty jazz", I don't know what is. I agree on McDuff with George Benson also - McDuff was off my list because most of the stuff I have is later 70s stuff that is not to the same standard, IMO. But the earlier stuff is great. I have an old 45 RPM of McDuff and Benson "Rock Candy" - great.

[This message was edited by Dave Mudgett on 25 July 2006 at 09:20 PM.]

Tom Zielinski
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From: Buffalo, New York, USA

posted 25 July 2006 09:25 PM     profile     
Hey I noticed someone mentioned George Barnes! I forgot about him. I have a great rare Lp called "country jazz" that has some real hot playing. I even burned it to cd a while ago.

Freddie Green with Count Basie laid down some great rhythm too. His solo disc is cool too.

Like some, I am not a Herb Ellis fan, but the chemistry with Joe Pass is great on 7 come 11. Joe also sounds really good on the Basie Jam 1-3 albums for blues. "mama don't wear no drawers" is pretty cool!

Jussi Huhtakangas
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From: Helsinki, Finland

posted 26 July 2006 01:36 AM     profile     
Tom, I have that Country Jazz LP too, it's pretty hard to come by and not too many people even know about that album by Barnes. It's one of my favorite George Barnes albums.
Another rarely mentioned albums are Wild Kitten by Joe Puma and Message From Garcia by Dick Garcia, both on Dawn label. They've been reissued on cd, but even those are hard to find today, but well worth checkin' out. And you can't go wrong with Chuck Wayne; his String Fever LP has been recently reissued on cd and the early Savoy recordings too, though that one might be harder to find. Some great Chuck Wayne back up work is on Tony Bennett's Cloud 9 LP which is easy to find on a midprice cd, it's my favorite Tony album.
More great back up work can be found on Julie London's first two albums Julie Is Her Name vol 1 & 2. Both albums only feature Julie, guitar and upright bass. Some of the most intimate mood music you can find. Barney Kessel on vol 1 and Howard Roberts on vol.2. Can be found on cd with both albums on one cd.
Andy Volk
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From: Boston, MA

posted 26 July 2006 03:50 AM     profile     
One of my sleeper favorites is a George Golla from Australia. He's European but has been in Oz for years. He plays really exciting chord solo style - kind of like Bucky Pizzarelli and Marty Grosz. Live at Sydeny Opera House with the great wind player Don Burrows is fantastic.

Danny Gatton was a big fan of Barnes' Country Jazz. The Complete Standard Transcriptions is a fascinating Barnes record that's a bit like Raymond Scott's cartoon music. Barnes led a swinging group of woodwinds and electric guitar on radio in the 40s. This record has things like swinging versions of nursery rhymes with amazing Barnes solos as part of his tight ensemble arrangements.

I've heard the Pass/Ellis records and for my taste, they were like oil & water. Ellis sucked the poetry away from Pass's playing. Just my opinion. Ellis did a record with Charlie Byrd called Guitar Guitar! that surprisingly seemed to work well. Years later, he was one of the founders of the Great Guitars with Kessel & Ellis.

Speaking of Kessel, the three way interplay on the Poll Winners albums bewteen Kessel, Mann, and Brown is near telepathic 'cause they were such good friends but there's also a mid 60s trio record called On Fire with Barney and a pick-up group. His playing is phenomanally exciting - even more so than the classic Poll Winners records. He didn't have a prior relationship with the other players so he just came out of the gate like a fire-breathing racehorse. Last I looked, it was only available on CD from Japan.

Found one dealer here: http://www.ejazzlines.com/c2/BARNEY-KESSEL-ON-FIRE-p44158.html

[This message was edited by Andy Volk on 26 July 2006 at 02:01 PM.]

Jeff Agnew
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From: Dallas, TX

posted 26 July 2006 05:21 AM     profile     
I'd like to thank all of you for pointing me to several CDs I was either unaware of or had overlooked these many years. I've since ordered several and it's always nice to know there is still great music out there that sometimes we just haven't found yet.

Regarding Andy's feeling on Herb -- I'd love to know what it is that he can't describe because I can't either. I certainly don't fault his talent. It's just that, for me, there's something missing. It's not necessarily the lack of a chordal approach or the tone (though I acknowledge those factors).

Ironically, I got to hear Herb regularly in the 80s when he would often stop by to rehearse or jam with the US Navy's big band jazz ensemble. He and their guitar player were buds and got together for shows or jams frequently. I'd come out of my rehearsal room across the hall and they'd be tearing it up. Herb fit in well with those guys for some reason and I enjoyed every minute of it. Probably because compared to the Top 40 country junk food I was playing at the time it was filet mignon. But then I'd hear him with the Great Guitars at Charlie's club in Annapolis and... the emptiness was back.

All of which is not to disparage Herb or those who love his playing. As with Andy, I can't describe why it doesn't do much for me and I wish I knew why.

But enough of Herb. What do you guys think about Jerry Garcia?

Barry Blackwood
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From: elk grove, CA

posted 26 July 2006 01:48 PM     profile     
Although I'm a little late to the party, Hank Garland and Howard Roberts get my vote as well.
Rick Jolley
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From: Heartland, USA

posted 26 July 2006 08:08 PM     profile     
I subscribe to the Rhapsody service of RealPlayer. It costs $9.95 a month, which is charged to my AMEX account. I thought it was a little pricey a couple of years ago when I first subscribed, but it has gotten better and better, in terms of the good jazz stuff they have.

For instance, they have recently added just about all of Barney Kessel's old recordings (one of my primary influences.)

Downloads for recording cost 69 cents each, but with my DSL, I can get to everything without putting it on my hard drive so I just go use it as is.

My son, a jazz accordion and keyboard player, stays up after I go to bed and plays stuff on the headphones.

When I started seriously studying Dobro, their dobro list was really a big help.

Worth a look -- I think they have a trial subscription.
http://www.rhapsody.com

Rickey Zahn


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