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David Mason Member From: Cambridge, MD, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 12:24 PM
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I am looking for some recommendations for some hot and/or interesting, standard jazz guitar albums by Tal Farlow, Barney Kessel, Joe Pass, and maybe others. I know that some guys like Wes Montgomery and George Benson got accidentally and/or voluntarily bushwhacked by syrupy 60's pop dreckisms - strings, horns, Beatles covers - and I would like to know where the secret, dirty, good stuff is. [This message was edited by David Mason on 17 July 2006 at 12:25 PM.] |
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Jim Cohen Member From: Philadelphia, PA |
posted 17 July 2006 12:40 PM
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Might I suggest Jimmy Bruno, "Live at Birdland"? |
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Stephan Miller Member From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 02:40 PM
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Two come to mind from last year-- "Ted Greene/Solo Guitar", a re-issue on the Art Of Life label, and his only recording. Utterly lovely & technically phenomenal re-harmonizations of several standards. Also Wes Montgomery, "Smokin' at the Half Note", possibly a re-issue with added material, live with Wynton Kelly's trio...some of it was broadcast so 3-4 cuts are prefaced with fairly brief oily-anouncer chat. Also two tunes with heavy amp tremolo which I could have done without. Otherwise Wes sounding at his peak. Also Barney Kessel "Red Hot & Blues", Jimmy Bruno/Joe Beck "Polarity", Jack Wilkins "Mexico", and gypsy jazzer Joscho Stephan's "Swing News" and "Forever Django". --Steve [This message was edited by Stephan Miller on 17 July 2006 at 02:46 PM.] |
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Steve Alcott Member From: New York, New York, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 02:45 PM
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Jim Hall and Red Mitchell live at Sweet Basil on the long-defunct Artistshouse label; gonna be hard to find, but WELL worth the search. [This message was edited by Steve Alcott on 18 July 2006 at 04:15 PM.] |
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Bill McCloskey Member From: |
posted 17 July 2006 04:49 PM
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Wes Montgomery's The complete Riverside recordings is great. I joined emusic and was able to download the whole thing for around $20. |
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Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City |
posted 17 July 2006 05:36 PM
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Wes, Howard Roberts and many other great jazzers did some LPs that came off a bit as "elevator music" and were slammed by jazz fans and critics, but personally I don't have a problem with them trying to make a living. They were still monster players and have plenty of "real" jazz recordings out there. As Jimbeaux said, Jimmy Bruno is excellent and last time I visited his site at http://jimmybruno.com he had a lot of free mp3's of himself too that you can play and save, on the Downloads link. This site, http://www.classicjazzguitar.com/ has lots of info on many great jazz guitarists, click on the link at the top "The Guitarists", and at the left will appear a list of guitarists, and at the bottom of the page of each one is a link to some sound clips. [This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 17 July 2006 at 05:39 PM.] |
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Charles Davidson Member From: Alabama, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 06:00 PM
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My all time favorite jazz guitar album is Hank Garland's Jazz Winds From a new Direction. |
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Bill Hatcher Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA |
posted 17 July 2006 07:06 PM
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Anything by Wes on Riverside save the Wes and Strings record. Wes on Verve is not bad either. The Tequila record and Smokin at the Half note and the two records with Jimmy Smith are classics. PaT Marino on Muse records. Get "Conciousness" for sure. Jim Hall with Paul Desmond on RCA is about as smooth as it gets. Kenny Burrell on Blue note and some of the Verve records he made are nice. If you want the most fattest jazz guitar then go to Mosaic Records on the net and buy the Johnny Smith compilation. Bad cat! Joe Pass on Pablo records. There are many more to pick from, but these are some of the best. |
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Andy Greatrix Member From: Edmonton Alberta |
posted 17 July 2006 07:08 PM
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there's a lady called Emily Reimer (Spelling?) now passed away that played some no nonsense bebop. |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 17 July 2006 07:09 PM
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Wes Montgomery-"Boss Guitar" (visit Amazon to read my review of "Boss Guitar" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000000YES/sr=8-1/qid=1153255569/re f=pd_bbs_1/102-6248866-7970534?ie=UTF8 "Guitar on the Go" Tal Farlow- "The Tal Farlow Quartet" (Visit Amazon to read my review of "Tal Farlow Quartet") http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000050H5Y/sr=8-1/qid=1153255791/ref=sr_1_1/102-6248866-7970534?ie=UTF8 Joe Pass- "Intercontinental" [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 17 July 2006 at 07:14 PM.] [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 18 July 2006 at 01:38 PM.] [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 18 July 2006 at 01:39 PM.] [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 18 July 2006 at 01:41 PM.] |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 17 July 2006 07:18 PM
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Andy, it's spelled Remler. I knew Emily from when we were students at Berklee in 75.She was a friend and I was saddened by her passing away many years later.She was a good player and a nice person. |
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Gary Meyer Member From: Sacramento, California, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 07:26 PM
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Kenny Burrell....Kenney Burrell |
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Darvin Willhoite Member From: Leander, Tx. USA |
posted 17 July 2006 07:26 PM
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I have an Emily Remler CD in rotation in my CD player right now, a great player who passed away way too young. Mimi Fox is another woman that can turn out some great guitar jazz. My favorite older Jazz players are Joe Pass and Howard Roberts. Both of them recorded live albums at Donte's, which I guess was a nightclub in California? These are probably two of my favorite albums. The great Dave Grusin, one of my favorite Jazz/Pop pianist', played keys on the HR album. ------------------ |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 17 July 2006 07:39 PM
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Sonny Rollins "The Bridge" on RCA from early '60's has some great Jim Hall. I think I heard it was originally released as "Our Man In Jazz" Mid '70's George Benson album "Body Talk" where he is supported by a 19 year old Chet Atkins fiend- Earl Klugh! Joe Pass "Potraits of Duke Ellington"- the first real jazz guitar album I bought in the mid 70's. May be on Pablo. ------------------ |
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Dave Mudgett Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 17 July 2006 07:42 PM
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There's so much, it's hard to know where to start. Most of my old jazz is on vinyl - I dunno how much has been reissued. But these are some of my favorite records that feature jazz guitar: George Benson - It's Uptown (Columbia) Mel Brown Kenny Burrell: Tal Farlow Hank Garland - Jazz Winds From a New Direction (Columbia) Grant Green - Grantstand (Blue Note) Tiny Grimes and J.C. Higginbotham - Callin' the Blues (Blue Note) Guitar Player Presents Jazz Guitar Classics - 1953-1974 (Prestige) Jim Hall Barney Kessel Pat Martino Wes Montgomery A note on the Verve stuff. These sessions got increasingly orchestrated as time went on, but I still think there's plenty of great guitar playing. The ones I avoid are the A&M sessions. Joe Pass Jimmy Raney Howard Roberts - H.R. is a Dirty Guitar Player Johnny Smith Jean "Toots" Thielemans Rene Thomas - Guitar Groove (Jazzland) Phil Upchurch - Revelation (jam) Quentin Warren w/ Jimmy Smith and for something that maybe isn't strictly jazz, but is cool and in that vein - Billy Butler with Bill Doggett on King Records. |
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Bill Cunningham Member From: Cumming, Ga. USA |
posted 17 July 2006 08:14 PM
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And George Benson with the Jack McDuff Trio. Organ, Guitar, Drums... |
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David L. Donald Member From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand |
posted 18 July 2006 01:05 AM
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Just about ANY Jim Hall is food for thought. Benson and Farrel with Joe Farrel. The John Ambercrombie, Richie Bierack, But I am a bit biased, since Peter is my Dad's cousin. There is a Larry Coryell album with Stephan Grapelli and Philipe Catherine, [This message was edited by David L. Donald on 18 July 2006 at 01:07 AM.] |
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Andy Greatrix Member From: Edmonton Alberta |
posted 18 July 2006 02:24 AM
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And then there is Ed Bikard who played a Telly and made it sound like a hollow body. |
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Billy Wilson Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA |
posted 18 July 2006 03:21 AM
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Go to Classic jazz Guitar.com and check out tons of excerpted guitar solos, bios and fotos on many jazz greats. |
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Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
posted 18 July 2006 03:42 AM
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Hmmmm, I'm surprised no one has listed Wes Montgomery's live Full House album. Not only does he have Miles Davis' backline but it also has the amazing Johnny Griffin too!!! Absolutely WONDERFUL album!!!!! |
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Tony Harris Member From: England |
posted 18 July 2006 04:51 AM
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Could I just add a couple more names? Bireli Lagrene, a player who started as young gypsy prodigy. He made his first album aged 13, Django style. Then went through rock, fusion, 'traditional' jazz guitar style, making an album called 'Standards' and another as a Frank Sinatra tribute, and who now has come full circle back to his gypsy roots. One of the most exciting and inventive players on the planet. And Britain's own Martin Taylor who plays the greatest solo fingerstyle jazz I've ever heard - melody, chords and bass lines all at the same time and sometimes at breakneck speed! |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 18 July 2006 08:33 AM
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I'll have to agree with Charles Davidson about Hank Garland.He was great.Kind of like Tal Farlow's style with Barney Kessel's sound if you can imagine that.He was a country player who was equally at home with the jazz style. He passed away two years ago. |
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John McGann Member From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA |
posted 18 July 2006 08:39 AM
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quote: Yeah Chris!!! My #1 Favorite live album. All time classic desert island disc! Everything GREAT about jazz is on this album. Also, the Mosaic "The Complete Tal Farlow" is available on Amazon.com marked down from $120 to $60- 7 CDs of tremendous guitar playing. ------------------ |
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Dave Mudgett Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 18 July 2006 08:45 AM
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Yeah, I missed some - Jimmy Bruno and Ed Bickert in particular. Everything I've ever heard is really fine. Another great Wes record is on a Harold Land session on Jazzland, "West Coast Blues". Some of the best jazz guitar playing is done on other peoples' sessions. My list is very far from exhaustive - it's stuff I own and could directly recommend. I was trying to stick to older stuff, but definitely Martin Taylor and Bireli Lagrene. Also John Pizzarelli (his dad Bucky is one of the great swing-oriented jazz players). I also like Mark Whitfield. But ya' gotta add Charlie Hunter (in a big way) to any younger guitar player list, IMO. Charlie plays 8-string Novax guitars, with the top 5 regular guitar strings and E-A-D (low to high) bass strings on the low end. I've heard all kinds of people do simultaneous bass lines and jazz guitar, but never anything like this. Everything I've heard by him is amazing. I also can't believe I left out the Affinity boxed set of Django Reinhardt. But prepare to have a week or two to do little else but listen. I don't have 'em, but I guess I need to pop for the Mosaic Johnny Smith and Tal Farlow boxed sets. |
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Mike Shefrin Member From: New York |
posted 18 July 2006 09:06 AM
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There are some great jazz guitarists here in New York city and worth checking out- Joe Cohn, PeterBernstein, Howard Alden and William Ash.If youre in town, Cohn is at Zuni on Monday nights.Bernstein is at Smoke on Tuesday nights.William Ash plays alot at Smalls. [This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 27 July 2006 at 06:31 AM.] |
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Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA |
posted 18 July 2006 01:00 PM
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Dave wrote practically my whole list! There are some budget bin recordings from the European tour Wes & Johhny Griffin did in the mid 60s. Towering jazz guitar playing. - My favorite Tal albums are Autumn in New York, The Tal Farlow album, The Swinging Guitar of Tal Farlow. The interplay on the Red Norvo trio records is great but not quite as artistically satisfying. |
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Stephen Gregory Member From: |
posted 18 July 2006 01:05 PM
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HANK GARLAND!!! |
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Charles Davidson Member From: Alabama, USA |
posted 18 July 2006 08:32 PM
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Right on Stephen,Hank WAS the man.Once heard George Benson say,Jazz Winds was his biggest influence. |
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Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
posted 19 July 2006 03:47 AM
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Mr. Volk, are there publically released albums of that Wes and Johnny Griffin tour? I would LOVE to get my greasy little mitts on some of that stuff!!!! Mr. McGann, thank for agreeing with me, I too think Full House is one of the ALL-TIME jazz classics. |
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Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA |
posted 19 July 2006 04:35 AM
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One name that should be included is Charlie Byrd. Byrd made a lot of elevator music records during the years he was with Columbia records, but he did some really cool things both before and after. Amomg his best: Blues For night People (Savoy) Byrd By the Sea is a live album. I was in the audience when it was recorded. Byrd is joined by a pianist on a few tunes on Blues Sonata. Aside from those 3 or 4 tunes, the rest of that album, and all the others listed are just the trio: guitar, bass and drums, with none of the MOR production that marred his Columbia recordings. Blues For Night People has not been reissued on CD. The rest should be available. ------------------ [This message was edited by Mike Perlowin on 19 July 2006 at 04:40 AM.] |
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Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA |
posted 19 July 2006 06:38 AM
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Not sure if Johnny Griffin's on this but Wes is in amazing form and Harold Mabern's piano work is also outstanding: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BPN268/qid=1153316728/sr=1-22/ref=sr_1_22/104-8586300-0911121?s=music&v=glance&n=5174 |
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Michael Johnstone Member From: Sylmar,Ca. USA |
posted 19 July 2006 07:28 AM
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Ted Greene - "Solo Guitar" Ted was in a class by himself. |
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Michael Lee Allen Member From: Fresno CA USA |
posted 19 July 2006 09:50 AM
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A lot of "the secret, dirty, good stuff" is in my storage facility and I will be pulling out some of it and listing it within three or four weeks. If a reasonable amount sells here I will keep posting more. |
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Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA |
posted 19 July 2006 11:12 AM
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George Barnes' Concord CDs are also very good.My favorite is "Plays So Good." "Don't Get Around Much Anymore" on David Grisman's Acoustic Disclabel is good too. George is really underated. His single note playing rocks and swings like a clarinet. Ted Greene's album IS great (except for the Leslie rotating speaker sound). George Van Eps was a big influence on Ted. Check out his playing; his mastery of chord melody with moving inner voices is astounding. |
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Dave Mudgett Member From: Central Pennsylvania, USA |
posted 19 July 2006 11:55 AM
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I concur on George Barnes, Ted Greene, and George Van Eps, and Sal Salvador. George Barnes also played a lot of commercial sessions - rockabilly, country, and so on. To me, Van Eps is the classic master of chord melody. A great single-string specialist we've missed is Herb Ellis. "Stan Getz and the Oscar Peterson Trio" on Verve, and "Great Guitars", with Charlie Byrd, Barney Kessel, and Herb Ellis feature quite a bit of Herb's playing. He also played on a lot of other peoples' sessions. Of course, we should hardly have to mention Charlie Christian. "The Genius of the Electric Guitar" and "The Benny Goodman Sextet, featuring Charlie Christian" Columbia reissues are great. The sessions at Minton's with Monk and Diz are sonically rough but great. I also like the Gabor Szabo records mentioned, in a somewhat different tonal vein. Similarly, Bola Sete's old Fantasy records are good in a Latin vein. Of course, I missed Jim Hall's work with Paul Desmond. Great stuff. I only have one LP of this, but it's great, to my tastes. Every once in a while, I go into a vintage record shop and just look through the racks to see what they have. Some cool but relatively obscure stuff has not been reissued, and I sometimes am able to pick up some real cool vinyl pretty inexpensively. CD reissues are great, but vinyl is still cool and often a lot less expensive - not all the time, but sometimes. IMO, of course. |
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Jody Carver Member From: The Knight Of Fender Tweed~ Dodger Blue Forever |
posted 19 July 2006 03:40 PM
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Ten Tuff Guitars Columbia Records featuring 10 of New York's greatest studio guitar players. Led by Bucky Pizzerelli and Tony Mottola, Al Caiola and others. Yup Toot's Theilman as well. [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 19 July 2006 at 03:50 PM.] |
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Tom Zielinski Member From: Buffalo, New York, USA |
posted 19 July 2006 05:42 PM
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Joe Pass: Live at Donte's Joe Pass: Seven Come Eleven Johnny Smith: Walk Dont Run (he wrote it!, not the ventures!) Wes Montgomery Full House Pat Martino, Live, Consciousness The very underrated Howard Roberts Magic Band The very underrated Oscar Moore with Nat King Coles Trio Cal Collins, if you can find the vinyl for "Cross Country", "By Myself" and "Blues on my mind". He did a bit of country jazz and solo guitar. Some sounds like Joe Pass with a bit of fingerpickin in it. I burned all my vinyl to disc if you are interested! I should redo it now that I have a better equipped studio. |
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Andy Volk Member From: Boston, MA |
posted 19 July 2006 07:01 PM
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Herb Ellis was purposely off my list. I've heard him on countless records and in person and his jazz playing just doesn't do it for me and I'm not 100% sure why. |
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Brint Hannay Member From: Maryland, USA |
posted 19 July 2006 09:41 PM
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The stuff by "The Great Guitars" (Barney Kessel, Herb Ellis, and Charlie Byrd) is pretty phenomenal, especially "Live at the Winery". They really seemed to bring out the best in eachother--and that's saying something! Kessel in particular just smokes! Charlie Byrd had an album on Savoy called "Jazz Recital" that's as good as the ones Mike P. mentioned. It features a couple of tunes on electric archtop, including "Homage to Charlie Christian", which Danny Gatton covered on "Unfinished Business". ("Blues Sonata" had a whole side on electric. Ah, the old days, when records had "sides"!) Also not yet mentioned (I think), George Benson's early stuff on CTI, before he got into the vocal thing, is pretty hot. I recommend "Beyond the Blue Horizon" and "Body Talk". |
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Chris Forbes Member From: Beltsville, MD, USA |
posted 20 July 2006 03:48 AM
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Speaking of the Great Guitars, thank you again Brint!!!! I can testify that "Live at the Winery" is a supercalifragalitsticexpialidocious album from front to back. |
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