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Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 02:15 PM profile Meet... The Shaggs, an all-girl band from Fremont, New Hampshire. This group is considered the worst rock and roll band in the world (or the "best worst" by the New York Times), and this designation has made the band's one and only album a collector's item. Recorded in 1968. Here’s a 1 min. MP3 segment of the title song Philosophy of the World: Philosphy of the World LYRICS: Philosophy Of The World Oh, the rich people want what the poor people's got And the poor people want what the rich people's got And the skinny people want what the fat people's got And the fat people want what the skinny people's got You can never please anybody in this world The short people want what the tall people's got And the tall people want what the short people's got The little kids want what the big kid's got And the big kids want what the little kid's got You can never please anybody in this world Oh, the girls with short hair want long hair And the girls with long hair want short hair Oh, the boys with cars want motorcycles And the boys with motorcycles want cars You can never please anybody in this world It doesn't matter what you do It doesn't matter what you say There will always be One who wants things the opposite way It doesn't matter where you go It doesn't matter who you see There will always be Someone who disagrees We do our best We try to please But we're like the rest Whenever at ease Oh, the rich people want what the poor people's got And the poor people want what the rich people's got And the skinny people want what the fat people's got And the fat people want what the skinny people's got You can never please anybody in this world
Larry Robbins Member From: Fort Edward, New York, USA	posted 28 August 2006 02:30 PM profile Wow, like these chicks sound real far-out and groovey! [This message was edited by Larry Robbins on 28 August 2006 at 02:31 PM.]
Jim Phelps Member From: just out of Mexico City	posted 28 August 2006 02:32 PM profile Thanks Doug, I was looking for a clip of The Shaggs since they were mentioned in another thread recently but couldn't find anything... wow, they're BAD!
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 02:50 PM profile I'm glad you like it! Yes, two cheapo guitars out of tune and out of time, drums out of time, two monotone voices singing awful lyrics in unison with a lisp... other than that they're fine! who let the dogs out?!
Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA	posted 28 August 2006 02:51 PM profile If I know my vintage guitars,[and i DO know vintage guitars].. I would say they were playing Wurlitzer guitars.. Now THAT is just too cool.. [Gibsom amps too!!!]... bob
Duane Reese Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah	posted 28 August 2006 02:52 PM profile Well, they sing more in key than the one I posted, but they are much worse overall.
Bob Carlucci Member From: Candor, New York, USA	posted 28 August 2006 02:54 PM profile arrrgghhhh.. that was truly horrible... I am going to wash my ears out with benzene and muriatic acid... bob
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 28 August 2006 02:56 PM profile Hey! maybe if they get wind of all this commotion they might consider a "comeback" tour.
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 02:56 PM profile One of the amps looks like a Fender Princeton Reverb or maybe a Champ blackface. The amps sure don't improve their sound! [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 03:00 PM.]
chas smith Member From: Encino, CA, USA	posted 28 August 2006 03:04 PM profile [This message was edited by chas smith on 28 August 2006 at 06:09 PM.]
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 03:16 PM profile A Google search of "the shaggs" comes up with 115,000 sites! There are fan sites, reviews, other music sites... these girls have inspired a lot of people.. for some odd reason. Their father forced them to take lessons and record an album. He was convinced they would be stars, like the Beatles. He was looking for a way out of the mundane routine of mill work. There is even NY show called The Shaggs: Philosophy of the World. Here are the actors: [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 03:19 PM.]
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 03:32 PM profile "The Shaggs were beyond my wildest dreams. I couldn't comprehend that music like that existed. It's so basic and innocent, the way the music business used to be. Their timing was... fascinating. Their lyrics were... amazing. It’s a bad record - that's so obvious, it's a given. But it absolutely intrigued me, the idea that people would make a record playing the way they do." Joe Mozian, VP of marketing, RCA Victor Philosophy of The World was re-released by Rounder in 1980, again in 1988, and recently re-released on CD by RCA. It's gotten some airplay on college stations, and a few thousand CDs have been sold. [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 03:54 PM.]
Gene Jones Member From: Oklahoma City, OK USA	posted 28 August 2006 03:41 PM profile They sure weren't playing over anyone's head!
Bill Hatcher Member From: Atlanta Ga. USA	posted 28 August 2006 03:52 PM profile "better than the Beatles" Frank Zappa. That says it all for me.
Duane Reese Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah	posted 28 August 2006 04:06 PM profile Upon looking at some things in the official Shaggs website, I was not surprised to see that Frank Zappa took an interest. Apparently they are still playing in one way or another... If their dad had them recorded not far into their playing careers, although I don't know this for sure, I'd dare say that they have improved since those days... Then again, I know people who have been playing for 20 or 30 years that are still horrible, but who knows if it's the case with the Shaggs.
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 04:13 PM profile In today's world of home recording there are a lot CDs out there that sound... amateur. Back in 1968 it wasn't as easy to make an album. A band would have to travel to a city where there was a studio and pay big bucks to record. It seems like only the good, organized bands would commit the time and money to record an album back then. Maybe that's why Philosophy of the World stands out. It's like... What were they thinking?! The audacity of producing and marketing this stuff is unbelievable. Well, it sure is innocent, I'll give it that! I played some of the tunes for one of my 18 year old guitar students and he said... "I know a lot of bands around here that sound like that".
Archie Nicol Member From: Ayrshire, Scotland	posted 28 August 2006 04:17 PM profile I've seen some shags in my time. These girls are not shags.
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 04:25 PM profile NRBQ had a lot to do with the Shaggs rediscovery. Legend has it that NRBQ found an original copy of Philosophy of the World at a Boston radio station and they convinced their record company to re-release the stuff. NRBQ played a record release party in NY (1980s? 70s?) and two of the Shaggs played on the show. The drummer wasn't there because she was suffering from depression (I don't blame her!)... so NRBQ's drummer filled in for her. I'll bet he worked for days learning those drum parts!
Billy Wilson Member From: El Cerrito, California, USA	posted 28 August 2006 04:31 PM profile I was told they took the instruments straight from the music store to the recording studio without bothering to stop off and learn how to play them.
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 04:34 PM profile Archie, you bad boy! Shag was the hairstyle. There is a current band called the The Shags, but they got nothin' on The Shaggs!
Skip Edwards Member From: LA,CA	posted 28 August 2006 04:37 PM profile I had a copy of the Shaggs LP about 25 yrs ago.... glad to see them finally getting their due! I love the tune that their Dad sings along on.... "Doin' it...yeeeaaahhh doin' it"
Duane Reese Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah	posted 28 August 2006 04:42 PM profile Yeah Arch, I know what you mean by that Mr. U.K.!
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 05:24 PM profile Yeah we know... Shag baby!
Donny Hinson Member From: Balto., Md. U.S.A.	posted 28 August 2006 05:31 PM profile Are you sure that song was never used in a "Godzilla" movie?
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 28 August 2006 05:37 PM profile Doug! I can't get that infectious tune outta my head...anyone tab it out for C6 yet???
Mike Shefrin Member From: New York	posted 28 August 2006 05:44 PM profile YEAHHHHH BABY!!!!
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 05:52 PM profile quote: I can't get that infectious tune outta my head... ...as crazy as this sounds... I'm actually starting to like this Shaggs crap! I have a few of their tunes on CD. The songs sound a lot alike... surprise, surprise! [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 05:58 PM.]
Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA	posted 28 August 2006 07:20 PM profile The band that opened for our fellow forumite Jim Ives' band when I saw them was worse. (Jim's band was pretty cool though.)
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 07:29 PM profile Mike, I think I remember your post about that band. Wasn't that a hardcore band with screeching vocals, and lot of "F" word? The Shaggs would never do that. They're nice girls! [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 07:33 PM.]
Duane Reese Member From: Salt Lake County, Utah	posted 28 August 2006 08:25 PM profile I feel like getting the CD and listening to it over and over again, inlcuding some horrible sounding stuff I got of mp3.com back in the day, and that way when I listen to real music it'll be like ecstasy!
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 09:27 PM profile ANOTHER SONG!! from the Shaggs... The response has been so overwhelming I must post one more Shaggs classic... Things I Wonder. Note the introspective lyrics and the incredible drumming! This one has a lot of chord changes too. Here’s a 1 min. segment, mp3: Things I Wonder LYRICS: Things I Wonder There are many things I wonder There are many things I don't It seems as though the things I wonder most Are the things I never find out I wonder about the stars above I wonder about the birds that fly I wonder about your love But most of all I wonder why you make me cry I wonder, I wonder I wonder why we have to say goodbye There are some things I don't understand There are some things I do But one thing I don't understand Is why we have to be so blue I understand why you feel the way you do Because I feel the same way too I wonder why our minds drift astray I wonder why life goes on this way I wonder why we have to part We both know it'll break our heart There are many things I wonder There are many things I don't I'll be glad when I find all these things out But until I do things won't change with me and you With me and you things will stay the same With me and you things won't change With me and you things will be the same [This message was edited by Doug Beaumier on 28 August 2006 at 09:33 PM.]
David Doggett Member From: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA	posted 28 August 2006 09:43 PM profile I think they made it on their looks.
Dave White Member From: Fullerton, California USA	posted 28 August 2006 10:21 PM profile Finally---something easy I can play along with while practicing my banjo...
Dave White Member From: Fullerton, California USA	posted 28 August 2006 10:28 PM profile Quote from the Shagg's website: "In garages everywhere - kids are writing songs and expressing themselves by stretching their talents. If you love music for its own sake, and perform what you believe in, you possess the noblest gift of music and art. In the case of The Shaggs, this gift was a lucky, charming moment captured on audio tape." Mr. Ampex and Mr. Scotch are rolling over in their graves.
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 10:46 PM profile The recording engineers must have been blowing their lunches in the control room! garbage in - garbage out
Andy Sandoval Member From: Bakersfield, California, USA	posted 28 August 2006 11:08 PM profile Man! I dig that "herky jerky" rhythm. Them gals got it goin on! I bet if I hit every pawn shop and yard sale in town I might be able to find this classic on 8 track. [This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 28 August 2006 at 11:11 PM.]
Doug Beaumier Member From: Northampton, MA	posted 28 August 2006 11:33 PM profile It sounds like the drummer phoned in her part from another planet. It's cute how the rhythm player strums only when she sings a word.... eeeech! IT'S TORTURE!! ...but why do I like it so much?
Jason Odd Member From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia	posted 29 August 2006 01:41 AM profile I love that album.
Mike Perlowin Member From: Los Angeles CA	posted 29 August 2006 03:28 AM profile quote: But one thing I don't understand Is why we have to be so blue I thought she was singing "Why we have to eat tofu."
Charlie McDonald Member From: Lubbock, Texas, USA	posted 29 August 2006 04:45 AM profile Truly ahead of their time, altho they were pretty together on the first downbeat.

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