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Topic: Fender Twin Reverb: How are they for Steel Guitar
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Dave Robbins Member From: Nashville, Tnn. USA
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posted 17 December 2002 12:35 PM
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Well... I might as well go ahead and add my two cents too. Back when the Twinn was about the only thing available quickly and easily at any music store, I had a Twinn with the "D120's." I had tried one with the Jensons but found that all I could get was distortion...didn't need that for steel! But for the time, the one with the JBL D120's worked great! Occasionally, I would "bounce" the speakers with the C6 though, but that was a way of life back then. Then Peavey came along with the Session 400. It seemed to have the best of everything to me. So, while keeping the Twinn, I purchased a Session 400. For awhile I would use both so I could compare them. Some days I would prefer the Twinn sound and some days the Session. But eventually, I found that the cleaner and more powerful sound of the Session won out. It seemed to "project" so much better, and had more power. The Twinn began to sound thinner and thinner to me, especially in the mids. Ever since, I have stayed with the Peavey line of amps with their power and DDT circuit of the later amps. Near mic'ing of that Twinn really sounded sweet, but for "live" the Twinn just couldn't stay up with the Peavey. Now, tone is just like "apples and oranges." If you like the sound of the Twinn and it's mid range characteristics, then a Twinn is what you should play. On the other hand, if the Twinn is too thin for your liking, then the Peavey may be the better. Me, I prefer he tighter Peavey sound and the superior circuitry over the Twinn's thinner mids. I have to make the bass way to muddy on a Twinn to get the response from the low end that I want, then I get into distortion. I do like the harmonic over tones of the Twinn though. The Peavey is just a cleaner sound to me with good low end response and variable mid circuitry. Of course, then there's "STANDEL!"  Dave[This message was edited by Dave Robbins on 17 December 2002 at 12:39 PM.] |
Rick Barber Member From: Morgan Hill, Calif. USA
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posted 17 December 2002 07:14 PM
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Real amplifiers glow in the dark.Rick Barber |
Michael T. Hermsmeyer Member From: Branson, Mo 65616 USA
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posted 18 December 2002 12:56 PM
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I built this cabinet for my Dual Showman: http://www.wpro1.com/utilitymanproductions/pg4.asp A Twin Reverb or Dual Showman Reverb (No Master Volume)with a 15" speaker is an awesome combination. Maybe it's not for everyone, but it is for me. I also love Evans amps and the old Peavey Session 500. Most of the time, I need two channels and this Fender is the best combination of features and tone that I have ever found, short of dragging around a 20 space rack and two Evans cabinets. I have had the Nashville 400's, Session 400 LTD, LTD 400, Artist, Vegas 400... Still have a Nashville 400, Evans DP2R and ESPA, Mesa Boogie Studio Preamp, and several small Fender and Peavey guitar amps. This Fender is the one carrying it's weight at this time. Of course it's a lot of weight to carry, especially in the new road case I built for it. Whew!!! But it's worth it. I love it. Michael T. ------------------ UTILITY MAN PRODUCTIONS '73 EMMONS D10 FATBACK, '92 EMMONS D10 LASHLEY LEGRANDE, '85 DOBRO 60DS, '95 DOBRO F60S, '95 MELOBAR CUSTOM, 1955 FENDER TRIPLE NECK STRINGMASTER. EVANS, FENDER, PEAVEY, and MESA BOOGIE Amps.
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Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 20 December 2002 08:22 AM
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Michael- that is a beautiful piece of work!I am truly in love with my '68 SF TR that was retrofitted with a JBL D-130-F 15" early in it's life. I have several Fender amps, and I love 'em all. But this Twin is the culmination of my search for my personal tube amp/steel guitar tone nirvana. And the 15" is what makes the difference. other amps may be louder, cleaner, more dependable, and considerably lighter; but for me, it's This Amp. I just had it serviced (caps, three prong cord, 'blackfaced") and am looking forward to giving it a gig-volume romp this weekend. I know the thread started as a discussion of the Reissue Twins. My advice is seek out a SF Twin. you'll likely save bucks over a new Reissue (Although I have played through a couple of RI Twins and they sounded mighty fine, I am a fan of point-to point wiring vs PCB) and have a serviceable amp for years to come.
But like has been said many times on this forum in several contexts... it's a personal taste thing. There is no magic bullet one-size-fits-all... |
Eddie Malray Member From: South Fulton, Tennessee, USA
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posted 28 December 2002 03:46 PM
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Nick: I've played throught Fenders for the last 6 years. I did'nt like tdhe tone of the old Peaveys. I bought a new Peavey Nashville 1000 yesterday. It sounds great but I still like the Fender sound Better. |
John Russell Member From: Austin, Texas
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posted 28 December 2002 09:34 PM
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Yikes! I can't imagine hauling both a Twin and a Session 500 to gigs. I do hit the gym and the weights about 3 days a week but I'll never be up to that workout!I used to have a Fender Vibrosonic, silver face from the early '70s, JBL speaker. Great tone and I've had to search many years to get back to that sound. To me, the Fender amp is the standard of greatness. Just my opinion. The down side to Fender Twins, Vibrosonics, Showmans, etc. is the maintenance. Tubes aren't cheap and other parts wear out too. On mine I had to replace the tubes every year or so, and once I had to replace all the tube sockets. Ouch! Then there's the weight. My Vibrosonic nearly dragged me down a flight of stairs a few times. Scary. There are ways to cope with that, extra handles and a dolly. They're still brutally heavy. My current amps are a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (see the post on "Small Amps--Again")and a two-piece rack rig that includes a TubeWorks preamp. Easy to set up, the FX are in the head cabinet. Portablity is a breeze if you don't mind two pieces of gear instead of one. I can't say it's for everone, but having done this for some 30 years, it's the fix I can live with. --JR |
Michael T. Hermsmeyer Member From: Branson, Mo 65616 USA
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posted 30 December 2002 02:43 AM
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Thanks Dave, it was a lot of fun building it and there is a nice warm feeling when something you do turns out so well, and you know that you are preserving a piece of history. Even better than the look of my amp, is the sound. I may eventually try it with a JBL D-130, but the Evans is awesome. Someday I would like to build an extention cabinet to match and re-do a Fender Deluxe to go along with it. ----- Someday. Thanks, God Bless, Michael T. |
Eric Stumpf Member From: Newbury, NH 03255
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posted 30 December 2002 04:53 AM
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I play a Stringmaster through my '65 Reissue Blackface Twin and I'm thoroughly disappointed in the amp. First of all, when "idling" with the volume above 2 or 3 it hisses audibly...that really annoys me. The tone is acceptibly good in general but the reverb is not nearly as rich as I'd hoped...I bought it for vintage tone and classic reverb and it delivers neither. This is a product Fender could easily improve if motivated to do so. |
Nick Reed Member From: Springfield, TN
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posted 01 January 2003 06:30 PM
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Well I'm happy to say I've purchased a mint '65 re-issue Fender Twin Reverb off ebay. I can't wait for it to get here so I can try it out on a gig. I'm still gonna keep my Peavey Nashville 400 & Nashville 1000, in case I don't want that Fender sound. I know, too many amps. . . .but I do own 5 pedal steel guitars. So it's just one more to add to the collection.  Nick |
Brad Sarno Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 01 January 2003 10:07 PM
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Hey Nick, congratulations on getting the re-ssue Twin on ebay. Not so much because you got the Twin, but because you got it on ebay and can probably sell if for what you've got in it. I'm sort of teasing, but not really. I just haven't heard a re-issue that does that sound right. I dont know what they look like on the inside but I'm guessing that they aren't point to point wired like the originals. I dont know why it is really. The reissues I've heard do have a similar sound to the old ones but lack the sweet lush quality that the real ones have, and that includes the reverb sound. It's crazy to me why there are all these '68 and '69 Twins floating around out there for CHEAP. Sometimes under $600. And people still get the expensive new ones that dont sound right. I say find a '68-'71 original, retube, rebias, recap, and clean it up and there's nothing better. They're rugged and reliable and easy to maintain. Sorry Nick, just had to rib ya.Brad Sarno |
Dave Birkett Member From: Oxnard, CA, USA
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posted 01 January 2003 10:41 PM
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Brad, where are these SF Twins you're talking about? When one comes on Ebay, they go for a lot more than $600. People know what's going on. |
Brad Sarno Member From: St. Louis, MO USA
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posted 02 January 2003 06:25 PM
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Ebay holds twins up there in price but local used guitar and pawn shops have a harder time getting rid of them. Even guitar center will blow out the old '68 beaters for cheap. You gotta stay on the lookout though. In 2002 I found my '69 up the block in great working and good looking condition for $550. Brad |
Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 02 January 2003 06:36 PM
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I found mine at "the right price" in Buy & Sell right cheer... |
Ken Fox Member From: Ray City, GA USA
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posted 02 January 2003 06:56 PM
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I can get a 135 watter, pristine with a cover right here in Vancouver,WA. for $600.00. I just have too many amps (eight at last count) to get another! Twins are not hard to find! Buster Warren had a 135 watter set up for 15" speaker for a good price on the ads above. Search the ads and you should find a cou[le that did not sell yet. Another sweet one that did not sell was a 135 watter with a new OT (I put in in myself) that belongs to Gordon Black. |
Rick McDuffie Member From: Smithfield, North Carolina, USA
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posted 02 January 2003 07:06 PM
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JBL's |
Tyler Macy Member From: San Diego, CA, USA
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posted 02 January 2003 08:26 PM
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A picture speaks a thousand words...
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Dave Van Allen Member From: Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
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posted 03 January 2003 05:58 AM
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"speakers" a thousand words, eh?  [This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 03 January 2003 at 06:42 AM.] [This message was edited by Dave Van Allen on 03 January 2003 at 07:19 AM.] |
Perry Hansen Member From: Bismarck, N.D.
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posted 04 January 2003 07:44 PM
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I have a chance to buy a original 65 tube type twin for 500.00. All I have to do is convince the War Department (My Wife) that I need it. |
Dave Birkett Member From: Oxnard, CA, USA
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posted 04 January 2003 08:53 PM
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Perry, just get her in front of the computer, go to Ebay.com-musical instruments-amps-type in fender twin-click completed items and she'll see that they go for over a thousand dollars, a 100% return on your money. And there is no reason to believe that it won't gain value over time. |