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Topic: Hilton low-profile volume pedal
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KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 11 June 2004 08:11 AM
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The Fed Ex man just brought me my new Hilton volume pedal a few minutes ago. I'm looking forward to trying it this weekend. Thank you Bobbe for carrying these great pedals in your stock.  |
KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 14 June 2004 08:00 AM
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I love this new volume pedal. Sure beats the old pot pedal for sure.My hat's off to Mr. Keith Hilton.   |
Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 14 June 2004 08:18 AM
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My pot pedal is beginning to do some scratching and I have been thinking about getting a Hilton or Goodrich pedal. Can anyone tell me the price range for them, and I assume they have no pot. Do they plug into AC? Thanks
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Hook Moore
Member From: South Charleston,West Virginia
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posted 14 June 2004 09:18 AM
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Gere I have seen the price range from as low as $209. for the Goodrich and as high as $269. for the Hilton..so right in that area..Bobbe has them..
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Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 14 June 2004 03:35 PM
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Hook I appreciate the reply. I will have to run out to Bobbe's maybe tomorrow and get one. Bobbe, if you read this don't you dare take off as soon as you see me drive up.
Gere |
Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 14 June 2004 03:52 PM
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Well the Fedex man gets around. I just got mine thisafternoon. It's thw "Regular" size and is about an inch lower than my old EB.Plugged it in, and WOW! Bout 30% more volume, and clearer tone ROTB. I think it's going to be a long marriage. Really happy and pleased to do business with SGN and Bobbe. He never ceases to pleasantly surprise me. Thanks Bobbe. EJL |
Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 15 June 2004 08:42 AM
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Well, I got rained out today. Maybe tomorrow the weather will cooperate and I can get to SGN and get my new pedal. Did you get that Bobbe?
Gere |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 15 June 2004 08:22 PM
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Thanks fellows for the kind words about my volume pedals. They say when your competition starts copying your product that is the most sincere form of flattery. It took 12 days for my competition to copy the finish on my pedals. My pedals have a tone adjustment, off point adjustment, and gain adjustment. I just saw my competition's ad in a steel magazine and guess what; Yes, they have come out with the same adjustments on their pedal. I really can't understand why people can't come up with original ideas, instead of copying other people's work. I suppose some people would rather steal ideas than think up their own ideas.
I have a pattent I applied for in 2000 and I should be getting the judgement back soon.
Then I can start protecting what I invented in court. I really wish my competition the best of luck, I just wish they would do some original thinking and original inventing. Almost all the major shows and major players use Hilton Pedals.These professional Nashville performers know who has the original ideals and the people who only copy the ideas of others.
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KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 15 June 2004 10:43 PM
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Keith, you are so very welcome. |
Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 16 June 2004 06:28 AM
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OK. it's almost 9 am and I am on my way out to Bobbe's shop to get me a Hilton pedal. I hope I can figure out how to make it work. I have heard nothing but good things about this pedal and I hope I am not dissappointed.
Gere |
KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 16 June 2004 08:57 AM
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Gere, you will be a happy camper when you use the Hilton pedal. |
John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 16 June 2004 10:00 AM
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Hi Keith. It's good to see you pop up there. It's time for me to tell these guys what you are really like............. scared you didn't I Keith?
Now, for the truth... I have known Keith personally for,I think,maybe 100-120 years.
Keith always speaks the truth and has very high standards. In a nutshell, you can't go wrong by dealing with Keith Hilton.
(now,Keith,I expect that big discount on my next purchase) |
Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 16 June 2004 02:01 PM
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OK Keith and you other guys. I took the plunge. Went to Bobbe's today and got me a brand spanking new Hilton pedal. I will put it to the test tomorrow night in Woodbine. I think the extra little feet that you can screw in the back on the bottom is a good idea. In case there is a difference in height it will be easy to adjust. I can't wait to try that sucker out. Thanks for the advise on it and I will report back in Friday.
Gere |
Roy Ayres
Member From: Starke, Florida, USA
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posted 16 June 2004 03:54 PM
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Testimonial:I recently cut a new steel CD at Buras Studio's near Gulfport, Mississippi. I was using a "pot" pedal I had recently bought and had another very old "pot" pedal in my backup-gear case. Just as we started to record the first song, my signature song "Tennessee Waltz," the string on my new pedal slipped, so I told the guys to take a 15 or 20 minute break while I repaired it. Hal Higgins, who was doing the keyboard and vocal work on the session, said, "Here Roy, use this and we can take time out later to fix it," as he handed me his Hilton pedal. I hesitantly acepted the loan, grumbling a little to myself about having to find an extension cord to reach the nearest unused AC outlet. After the very next take on the song I turned to my wife and said, "I gotta have one!" I sold Hal my new "pot" pedal for his use as a backup, and that night we went on line and ordered a Hilton." I have been back into music for only about a year or so after a 42 year absence, and that simple change to the Hilton finally gave me the sound I had been so desperately searching for with my new pedal steel and solid-state amp. You simply have to try it to believe how smooth it is as a result of not having to mechanically turn a pot. Yes, it is more expensive than the old fashioned "pot" pedals -- but worth every cent of it. Keith, go get 'em, Buddy -- you have given the steel world too much of a blessing to let some copy cat spoil the broth. |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 16 June 2004 05:43 PM
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Good to hear from you John Daugherty. Gary Atkins came up from Conway, Arkansas to see me a couple of weeks ago and I was gone. Gary still talks about your hot guitar and steel playing. You impressed a lot of people in Branson in those days. Geve, I invented the little back risers that screw in for foot comfort. That will be the next thing my competition tries to copy. Those back screw in risers are also in my patent application. In the last 4 years I know of 4 new pedals my competition has come out with, and each one has been a failure. Each time they go back to the drawing board, and return, claiming their newest pedal to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. The truth of the matter is that they would not be searching for a new design if I had not come along. They would still be happily stuck in a rut making pot pedals, without any competition. They have not had any competition for 30 years. Without competition you get lazy. Their best bet would be to get off their rear and invent something new, instead of stealing my ideals. Or should I say "STEELING" my ideas? Here is something that is important to know; A couple of years ago my competition got really despirate. To get some type of sales edge, my competition lowered their low profile pedal, claiming to have the lowest pedal. What they didn't tell people was they "LOST" 1/4 inch of up and down movement to get the height of the pedal lower. In other words, the pedal moved up and down 1/4 inch less. This decrease in up and down movement did not allow their pedal to fully turn on, or turn off. We measured their pedal and they lost movement simply to make a claim that they had the lowest pedal. They did not bother to inform the customer that their new pedal moved up and down 1/4 of an inch less. To make a long story short, our low pedal is lower than the competition's and still moves up and down 1 1/2 inches---like traditional steel pedals have always moved up and down. Anyone who knows me knows I have high moral standards. Maybe to high at times. I simply believe in treating people like I want to be treated. |
Bill Myrick
Member From: Pea Ridge, Ar.
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posted 17 June 2004 04:44 AM
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But a word of warning----if you use his pedal, be prepared to fight off the women !!! I don't know what it is about it but -----  |
John Daugherty
Member From: Rolla, Missouri, USA
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posted 17 June 2004 05:44 AM
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I think we need to get Keith Hiltons website exposed. For those who do not already know, check this out." www.hiltonelectronics.net " Keith, thanks for the flowers. I have to learn how to play again since I bought that U12 Marlen after laying off for 10 years.
Thanks for the info about Gary Atkinson. He is quite an entertainer himself.
As I remember, You had a very elaborate C6 course (note system). I never knew if you did a book in tableture. You really know your stuff and will do well in anything you set your mind to.
And finally, I agree that you have very high moral standards. It has always been a pleasure knowing you ,my friend. |
Gere Mullican
Member From: LaVergne, Tennessee, USA
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posted 18 June 2004 07:07 AM
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OK Keith Hilton and all you others out there, I got to try my new Hilton pedal out last night and Good Grief!!! what a difference it made. I even enjoyed my own sound coming out of my Nashville 112. That is something new, for me to like my sound. I didn't have to fight off any women but I was so impressed with the tone that I probably wouldn't have noticed if the women were after me. I also had to turn down the volume a little too. There was a noticeable volume increase and rich highs too. I like a good fat sound and all I use is a Boss DD-3. The only thing I have to say about the Hilton pedal that is a disadvangage is the power cord is a little too short to reach from around and to my power strip. Anyone have a solution for the short cord? Thanks for listening.
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KENNY KRUPNICK
Member From: Grove City,Ohio
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posted 18 June 2004 08:45 AM
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Hi Gere, I put my power strip on the right side of me,directly on the floor. This way the cord from the pedal will more than long enough so it isn't pulled,and strained. The amp cord,along with effects power cord is long enough to reach the strip as well.
P.S. I told you that you'd be a happy camper when you got a Hilton pedal. |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 18 June 2004 10:08 AM
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Bill, maybe it wasn't my pedal, but your smile that drove the women crazy. Hope everying is going OK in Pea Ridge. In my case they say you are getting old when you are more interested in minnow buckets than mini-skirts. Minnow buckets, as in bait for fishing. |
Eric West
Member From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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posted 19 June 2004 03:08 AM
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First gig with the HP.DAMN. It felt and sounded GREAT. It's not readily explained, but I was able of course to play the same level with lower amp volume settings, but the strange pat was when I pegged it with open strings, it didn't howl or show any buzzing. I don't even think I'll fix the EB Pot pedal unless I run across an AB EJ 500k and then I'll only use it for playing at home, or at dogfights. Between the Bullseye bar, Pod xt Nvl 112, JW rewinds of my SB single coils and the Hilton, I've made more good purchases than any time I remember. Thanx JH, and the SGF. Another happy customer, that's for sure. EJL |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 11 July 2004 12:34 PM
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I've been using pot pedals - EB, Fender "BooWa"etc., and they all have one thing in common - they're all tone suckers! You take a beautiful vintage guitar and plug it into a beautiful reconditioned at great expense amplifier and it sounds wonderful. Then you add the 'necessary' volume pedal and 90% of your tone is gone.  I was going to try a Goodrich because that seems to be what a lot of steelers use, but when I did a forum search I found a lot of Goodrich pedals for sale - cheap.  hmmmm . .
Soooo, last night after reading what those who have tried the Hilton have to say about it (particularly in this string) I ordered one from Bobbe, who also highly recommends it. Something to look forward to - tone AND volume
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Rick Alexander
Fender Stringmaster D8, Fender Dual Professional, Fender Champion, Rickenbacker 6 String, Alkire Eharp
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Damir Besic
Member From: La Vergne,TN
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posted 11 July 2004 02:14 PM
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like Bobbe Seymour said,"Hilton pedal is the bigest real invention in steel guitar world lately" Db ps
I have one, and I will always have one or maybe two...  |
David Mullis
Member From: Rock Hill, SC
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posted 11 July 2004 05:29 PM
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Keith is a great guy, awesome pedal and his customer service is second to none! I use to carry my old Emmons pedal as a back up, but recently quit carrying it because the Hilton pedal has never failed |
Wayne Dahl
Member From: Nashville,TN,USA
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posted 13 July 2004 11:13 AM
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Tim Lusby and myself purchased the low profile pedal not long ago. We both agree,
It sounds and feels great!!
Thank you Keith Hilton....
Wayne |
Samuel E. White
Member From: Greeneville TN.
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posted 14 July 2004 05:54 PM
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Question Which one is the better pedal the low profile or the standard??
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Jim Saunders
Member From: Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
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posted 14 July 2004 06:23 PM
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Every dealer that sells the Hilton pedal seems to charge $269.00. I assume there must be a marketing restriction on discounting. What's happened to American competition?
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Emmons Legrande II, D10, Gibson Console Grande D8, Peavey Session 2000, Peavey Nashville 112.
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Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 14 July 2004 07:59 PM
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Some of you may not know the fellows who posted above. Wayne Dahl plays steel for Pam Tillis, and Tim Lusby plays for Martina McBride. I have been hearing a lot of good things about you two guys. I got a report from Doug Jernigan that you are both pretty hot pickers. Most of the guys playing the major shows out of Nashville are using my pedal. Let me tell you guys, "thanks", for using my pedal! It means a lot to me. Question Wayne: Does the band buses of today have internet connections on the bus? The reason I ask is because Danny Mohammad who plays for Trick Pony and Kid Rock called me from their bus in Florida. I assume you guys can access the internet from the band bus, am I correct? By the way, Danny Mohammad was playing for Ray Price, he told me Trick Pony was a little different. Jim $269.00 is a good price, I have not raised prices in 6 years, even though most of my parts have increased in price. Price for the rubber on the top of the pedal has jumped from $67.00 a roll, 6 years ago, to $127.00 a roll today. Ordered some IC sockets today and they went up .04 cents each. Metal for castings has gone up $2.75 each.
I don't know how much longer I can hold the price at $269.00, but I'm trying Jim. |
Bill Myrick
Member From: Pea Ridge, Ar.
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posted 15 July 2004 04:13 AM
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Keith---- Be glad you're not in the steel truss/wood frame building business !!! wow !! talk about a night mare year keeping up with steel and lumber prices and now concrete !!! www.amkobldgs.com |
Rick Alexander
Member From: Florida, USA
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posted 15 July 2004 09:50 AM
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Well, the big white truck delivered my Hilton Volume Pedal from Bobbe today. I plugged it in, and it's everything everyone says it is. No tone loss, no noise - just great sound.
Keith - add my name to the growing list of Happy Hilton Volume Pedal users. Fellers, there just is no other volume pedal!
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Rick Alexander
Fender Stringmaster D8, Fender Dual Professional, Fender Champion, Rickenbacker 6 String, Alkire Eharp
http://www.rickalexander.com/SteelKrazee.html |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 15 July 2004 01:53 PM
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Rick, thanks for buying my volume pedal. Getting back to Bill Myrick saying his Hilton volume pedal attracted women. I have always wondered why Bobbe was so charming to women. Maybe him using a Hilton pedal has something to do with his irresistible charm to the opposite sex. What do you think Bill? |
Wayne Dahl
Member From: Nashville,TN,USA
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posted 15 July 2004 11:03 PM
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Hey Keith, You almost had it right. I'm working for Martina McBride and my friend Tim Lusby plays for Pam Tillis
As far as internet on our bus, thats something we dont have but I believe it"s available via satalite.
Thanks again Kieth, for making a great product........Wayne
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Bill Myrick
Member From: Pea Ridge, Ar.
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posted 16 July 2004 02:56 AM
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well Keith, I my only comment on Bobbe would be "more power to him" !! He's still young enough to cope with it. As for me--way too old and feeble to run fast anymore - I'm just thankful I didn't buy that one you made with the little blinking red light !! Where did that one end up anyway ??? |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 16 July 2004 10:16 AM
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Bill is correct, I did build one pedal with a blinking red light in front. It was for display at one of Tom Brumley's Steel Shows.
Jerry Fessenden wound up with that, he is a dealer of mine. Jerry sold it to someone, I don't know who. I have always wanted to put lights on my pedals, but my machinist brother-in-law,Frank, the perfectionist, looks at me crazy every time I bring up the idea. I have been experimenting with some luminous red,green, and blue wire. I have been thinking about cutting a grove all the way around the top and installing this luminous wire. Why not, after all it is Show Biz! So you think Bobbe is still young enough to "cope with it?" Bill from what I hear, my pedal has made you feel younger, made your hair grow, helped you lose weight, and increased your libido. "Libido"-as in coping with it! |
Ken Byng
Member From: Southampton, England
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posted 16 July 2004 01:11 PM
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Keith - have you ever considered 'modding' other pedals? For example, I hate the thought of consigning my old Fender vol/tone and Sho-Bud pedals to the scrap heap because of the lack of good quality pots in the market place.KB |
CrowBear Schmitt
Member From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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posted 16 July 2004 01:26 PM
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Hi Keith - Thanx again for all that you've done
i jes' can't wait
ps: i really enjoyed the conversations |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 16 July 2004 01:34 PM
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Ken, I don't blame you. My advise would be to keep the pedals, and play them once in a while, "for old time sake." A similar thing happened when automobiles came out and people hated to put their faithful old riding horse out to pasture. Technology moves forward and the electronics industry, world wide, has moved past the vacuum tube, and replaced the potentiometer---pot, with many better devices. I honestly wish quality
pots, like the old Allen Bradley pots, were still made in the United States for steel players. Ken,never let the past hold back the future, even though change becomes more difficult the older we get. I am always searching for something better. The big change in voltage dividers, and that is what a pot is, has been toward digital pots. Hope this information helps. [This message was edited by Keith Hilton on 16 July 2004 at 01:43 PM.] [This message was edited by Keith Hilton on 16 July 2004 at 01:44 PM.] |
Ron Scott
Member From: Flushing, Michigan, USA
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posted 16 July 2004 04:53 PM
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Hey Keith,This is Ron Scott who used to live in Ozark too. I came over to visit one day and got a pedal from you.I have moved back to Michigan again but I still use the pedal I bought and love it.Thanks again for a tour of your shop..Ron------------------
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Ron Elliott
Member From: Madison, Tennessee, USA
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posted 18 July 2004 01:13 PM
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Hey Guys, I have been using the Hilton pedal for about a year,..strong,even,quiet, and the tone feature is a super-add to any pedal I have ever used. Thanks, Keith for a great product. Ron E[This message was edited by Ron Elliott on 18 July 2004 at 01:18 PM.] |
Keith Hilton
Member From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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posted 19 July 2004 12:16 PM
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Ron Scott, I wondered what happened to you.
Good to know where you went. If you are back in the area, stop in and see me. |
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